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Validus 06-26-2006 08:18 PM

Lighting question, when shooting outside (PICS)
 
Sorry for the duplicate...

Maybe you guys and girls can give me some pointers. Whenever I shoot outside the pictures turn out extra bright. Any tips? Also, should I always be using the flash unit as a fill in?

http://www.thegristle.com/kg/IMG_8100.jpg
http://www.thegristle.com/kg/IMG_8199.jpg

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 08:24 PM

shoot in open shade for starters. or use a silk.

Validus 06-26-2006 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyhey
shoot in open shade for starters. or use a silk.

Ah okay, so, sunny is good but never in the sun, shoot in shade?!

Noted! Thanks!

LiveDose 06-26-2006 08:30 PM

Pick up a handheld light meter.

Get someone to hold reflectors for you or like Johnny said shoot more in the shade.

Also try & shoot early or late not in the middle of the day.

Nice looking girl btw...

chase 06-26-2006 08:30 PM

Are you using any of those reflector things? They will keep you from getting so many shadows. Probably a gold one will give a more natural skin tone.

Validus 06-26-2006 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose
Pick up a handheld light meter.

Get someone to hold reflectors for you or like Johnny said shoot more in the shade.

Also try & shoot early or late not in the middle of the day.

Nice looking girl btw...

Thanks! I will need to learn how to use one of the handheld light meters things...

She is a gem. LOL, she made my learning experience really easy and painless. Great girl!

Validus 06-26-2006 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chase
Are you using any of those reflector things? They will keep you from getting so many shadows. Probably a gold one will give a more natural skin tone.

No, I didn't use any reflectors. Just had the flash going for most of the pictures. I didn't point the flash at her but used the white thingy (not sure what it is called).

Validus 06-26-2006 08:34 PM

http://www.thegristle.com/kg/IMG_8119.jpg

czarina 06-26-2006 08:34 PM

no, don't exactly shoot in the shade or the pics will come out too dark. Simply have the model at an angle fromt he sun

LiveDose 06-26-2006 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina
no, don't exactly shoot in the shade or the pics will come out too dark. Simply have the model at an angle fromt he sun


He said 'open shade', there is a difference...:2 cents:

Validus 06-26-2006 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina
no, don't exactly shoot in the shade or the pics will come out too dark. Simply have the model at an angle fromt he sun

Alright, I will have to experiment there :)

Validus 06-26-2006 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose
He said 'open shade', there is a difference...:2 cents:


Well, okay. What is open shade?

chase 06-26-2006 08:44 PM

Here, this should help. :)
http://olympusdigitalschool.com/phot...ait/index.html

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 08:59 PM

here's some "open shade" samples for ya:

http://candydreams.com/upload/natali...a_porch095.jpg

Validus 06-26-2006 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chase

Oh hey! Thanks a lot for the link!

LiveDose 06-26-2006 09:01 PM

Hey Validus, open shade is reflected light where you are not shooting in direct sunlight but still have enough reflected light for an exposure. Another good lighting condition is shooting on an overcast/cloudy day.

Hope this helps a little.

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:01 PM

http://candydreams.com/upload/susan_skye_door032.jpg

Validus 06-26-2006 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose
Hey Validus, open shade is reflected light where you are not shooting in direct sunlight but still have enough reflected light for an exposure. Another good lighting condition is shooting on an overcast/cloudy day.

Hope this helps a little.

Thanks, every bit helps. I am just making notes and will just need to give it another try :)

LiveDose 06-26-2006 09:02 PM

Johnny your stuff is awesome btw.

MaddCaz 06-26-2006 09:03 PM

looks fine to me but what do I know?

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:04 PM

you can always backlight as well:

http://candydreams.com/upload/paige_roof097.jpg

Validus 06-26-2006 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyhey

Ah okay. So, it is kind of like bouncing the flah of the ceeling.. just that it is the sun, not the flash?!

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:06 PM

more backlit with NO refelctors

http://candydreams.com/upload/mayan_cowgirl005.jpg

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:07 PM

backlit window light shot in hotel:

http://candydreams.com/upload/leila_schoolgirl029.jpg

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:10 PM

shot available light in a hotel bathroom:

http://candydreams.com/upload/carly_erin022.jpg

chase 06-26-2006 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Validus
Oh hey! Thanks a lot for the link!

You are so welcome..I take all my own pics with a remote and friggin work lamps from Walmart, so I read everything I can on how to make what I have work better for me until i can afford a proper light kit. :) .:thumbsup

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:11 PM

uno mas:

http://candydreams.com/upload/carly_erin060.jpg

it's about SEEING light. takes some time, but you'll get it. :)

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Validus
Ah okay. So, it is kind of like bouncing the flah of the ceeling.. just that it is the sun, not the flash?!

similar, it's about the light filling in an area with no actuall direct sunlight.

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose
Johnny your stuff is awesome btw.

thanks :)

Validus 06-26-2006 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyhey
similar, it's about the light filling in an area with no actuall direct sunlight.

Ah, ok. Good... I will need to try :)

butterflybucks 06-26-2006 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose
Pick up a handheld light meter.

Get someone to hold reflectors for you or like Johnny said shoot more in the shade.

Also try & shoot early or late not in the middle of the day.

Nice looking girl btw...

what he said :thumbsup

Validus 06-26-2006 09:34 PM

http://www.thegristle.com/kg/IMG_8182.jpg

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:38 PM

the only problem with open shade is that it can cast a blue light (like your example), you may want to warm up the skin tones in post.

Validus 06-26-2006 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyhey
the only problem with open shade is that it can cast a blue light (like your example), you may want to warm up the skin tones in post.

yea, that I can do :). Thanks to photoshop... What light meter would you recommend?

johnnyhey 06-26-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Validus
yea, that I can do :). Thanks to photoshop... What light meter would you recommend?

while many may cringe here (including dean) i don't use a light meter. haven't since i've gone digital. that's been about 4 years+. learn how to trust your LCD preview and how it translates to your desktop machine and a real monitor.

if you need a light meter get the minolta auto meter IV.

johnny o

Mr. Romance 06-26-2006 09:48 PM

nice eyes...


Mr. Romance

E$_manager 06-26-2006 09:48 PM

small dinamic diapason and low down the exposition.
or change your camera.

Anya 06-26-2006 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chase
Are you using any of those reflector things? They will keep you from getting so many shadows. Probably a gold one will give a more natural skin tone.

Yep Chase, gold does help warm up skin tones. I shot these with a gold reflector last year. Johnny knows the place well :winkwink:

http://www.foxyanya.com/images/gfy/anyafx1.jpg

http://www.foxyanya.com/images/gfy/anyafx2.jpg

http://www.foxyanya.com/images/gfy/anyafx3.jpg

Still learning, but experimenting does help :)

Anya

Rattlehead 06-26-2006 10:23 PM

Nice shots Anya! Love the background too.

E$_manager 06-26-2006 10:27 PM

what about the gold? What is it?

BV 06-26-2006 10:35 PM

I have a bitch of a time shooting outside as well. PLus I don't have anyone to hold reflectors, nor do I want to if I can get away with it.

I'm using a canon d30 with a canon 550ex flash for fill.
Shadows are a problem for me sometimes. Especially when the sun is straight up.

I find that the canon 550ex flash with TTL (Through The Lens) auto light metering does a pretty good job in auto mode.

http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/bms03.jpg

gandalfuy 06-26-2006 10:48 PM

u should cover the sun with something...
r use a nice shadow to take the pics.

Validus 06-27-2006 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
I have a bitch of a time shooting outside as well. PLus I don't have anyone to hold reflectors, nor do I want to if I can get away with it.

I'm using a canon d30 with a canon 550ex flash for fill.
Shadows are a problem for me sometimes. Especially when the sun is straight up.

I find that the canon 550ex flash with TTL (Through The Lens) auto light metering does a pretty good job in auto mode.

http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/bms03.jpg

So you use a catch light with the flash or just "hit her" with the flash straight on?

Validus 06-27-2006 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anya
Yep Chase, gold does help warm up skin tones. I shot these with a gold reflector last year. Johnny knows the place well :winkwink:



Still learning, but experimenting does help :)

Anya


Yea, those are some great shots!

Grapesoda 06-27-2006 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyhey
uno mas:

http://candydreams.com/upload/carly_erin060.jpg

it's about SEEING light. takes some time, but you'll get it. :)

how about seeing the shot in focus?

chase 06-27-2006 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anya
Yep Chase, gold does help warm up skin tones. I shot these with a gold reflector last year. Johnny knows the place well :winkwink:

http://www.foxyanya.com/images/gfy/anyafx1.jpg

http://www.foxyanya.com/images/gfy/anyafx2.jpg

http://www.foxyanya.com/images/gfy/anyafx3.jpg

Still learning, but experimenting does help :)

Anya

Wow, girlie, those are fantastic! A whole bunch of beautiful shots in this thread. :thumbsup

gooddomains 06-27-2006 07:21 AM

interesting reading

Validus 06-27-2006 07:23 AM

http://www.thegristle.com/kg/IMG_8199_ba.jpg

Hm, I think photoshop does wonders!

Validus 06-27-2006 07:56 AM

http://www.thegristle.com/kg/IMG_8257_ba.jpg

johnnyhey 06-27-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanton
how about seeing the shot in focus?

lol, as an experienced shooter, i thought you know the difference between out of focus and camera blur. this is camera blur, shot around 1/60th sec.

there's an aesthetic value to it not being tack sharp but that eludes some. i shoot plenty of images for my own site/use and am granted the freedom of being my own AD. to each his own. :)

johnny o


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