GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Yahoo stealing your images and removing your banners and google adwords (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=618661)

SmokeyTheBear 06-06-2006 10:12 PM

Yahoo stealing your images and removing your banners and google adwords
 
http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...&tt=1&ei=UTF-8


If the link doesnt work just go to their images search and do a site search for gfy.com

site:gfy.com like that..

then click one of the images , and look in the frame of gfy below. notice there is no banner on the top of the gfy page as there should be..

If your site has google adwords on it , they will be disabled

WiredGuy 06-06-2006 10:27 PM

Wow, is it Google thats stripping out the html to load the ads or is it another reason they're disabled?
WG

harvey 06-06-2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...&tt=1&ei=UTF-8


If the link doesnt work just go to their images search and do a site search for gfy.com

site:gfy.com like that..

then click one of the images , and look in the frame of gfy below. notice there is no banner on the top of the gfy page as there should be..

If your site has google adwords on it , they will be disabled

I see the top banner in FF

SmokeyTheBear 06-06-2006 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey
I see the top banner in FF

yah i didnt even realise firefox ignores the security=restricted tag..

so this doesnt happen in firefox only in i.e.

thanks for the head sup i was just about to post

SmokeyTheBear 06-06-2006 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Wow, is it Google thats stripping out the html to load the ads or is it another reason they're disabled?
WG

a little known tag called securty=restricted on a frame will disable all javascript , and it appears quite a bit of other stuiff. i dont think you could possibly purchase anything while in a secruity restricted frame , because all coockies and java is disabled

SmokeyTheBear 06-06-2006 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Wow, is it Google thats stripping out the html to load the ads or is it another reason they're disabled?
WG

p.s. im assuming you meant yahoo not google

WiredGuy 06-06-2006 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
a little known tag called securty=restricted on a frame will disable all javascript , and it appears quite a bit of other stuiff. i dont think you could possibly purchase anything while in a secruity restricted frame , because all coockies and java is disabled

I didn't know about that tag, thanks for the heads up. And yes, I meant Yahoo, not Google... lol
WG

L0rdJuni0r 06-06-2006 10:42 PM

that sucks....

KRL 06-06-2006 10:42 PM

Thanks Smokey. Good find
.

V_RocKs 06-07-2006 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I didn't know about that tag, thanks for the heads up. And yes, I meant Yahoo, not Google... lol
WG

You learn something new everyday.

2HousePlague 06-07-2006 12:39 AM

http://pornacre.com/images/images/936.jpg


2hp

emthree 06-07-2006 12:55 AM

They need a better way to filter unsafe sites, rather than filtering the site's content.

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emthree
They need a better way to filter unsafe sites, rather than filtering the site's content.

google's seems to work just fine without using the security tag . they have no right to alter the way your site was intended to be viewed as far as im concerned..

PussyTeenies 06-07-2006 01:26 AM

Only in IE
in FF its normal

another reason why FF is the bomb!

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyTeenies
Only in IE
in FF its normal

another reason why FF is the bomb!


thats not a very good example.. a security tag that firefox doesnt understand/comply with..

Thats like saying a bicycle is better than a ferrari because your ferrari's cd player skips..

madawgz 06-07-2006 01:46 AM

hmmmmmm, not sure what your talking about, i see the banner fine here in FF

Antonio 06-07-2006 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emthree
They need a better way to filter unsafe sites, rather than filtering the site's content.

hm, I wonder what the REAL reason is, by disabling other peoples' ads they hope to increase their own revenue???


Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Thats like saying a bicycle is better than a ferrari because your ferrari's cd player skips..

fuck cd players, my ferrari has a gramophone, it rocks !

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madawgz
hmmmmmm, not sure what your talking about, i see the banner fine here in FF

thats because it works fine in firefox.. because firefox doesnt know what security=restricted means

CaptainWolfy 06-07-2006 01:54 AM

i have learned some new things from you smokey

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
hm, I wonder what the REAL reason is, by disabling other peoples' ads they hope to increase their own revenue???

!

well im sure thats part of the future plans, but the general idea is not to increase their own revenue , its to make their service "better" than anyone else.s

Go to google images and type in "porn xxx" then view each image and see how many have popups , no longer exist or have framebusters to get out of googles hotlink..

now go to yahoo images and type the same search item, and you wont find one popup , one javascript , or one framebuster , because they have all been nulled..

i.e. yahoo images search is WAY better than google's simply for the fact its easier to find what you want.. the money will come later.. google has proven that..

How much money do you think google made before adwords :winkwink: .. less than nothing lol the whole idea was give away a free usefull service until you have a monopoly , then load them with ads , sell everything and build more monopoloys :)

testpie 06-07-2006 02:24 AM

Can't you just smack a decent JavaScript framebreaker script up? Failing that, if Yahoo disables a JavaScript one, fuck 'em over and use a PHP one - i'd like to see you disable some server-side shit... oh wait... you can't.

digifan 06-07-2006 03:56 AM

Conclusion: we have to spread firefox :)

digifan 06-07-2006 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie
Can't you just smack a decent JavaScript framebreaker script up? Failing that, if Yahoo disables a JavaScript one, fuck 'em over and use a PHP one - i'd like to see you disable some server-side shit... oh wait... you can't.

I'm always using framebreakers on my sites :thumbsup

georgeyw 06-07-2006 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
well im sure thats part of the future plans, but the general idea is not to increase their own revenue , its to make their service "better" than anyone else.s

Go to google images and type in "porn xxx" then view each image and see how many have popups , no longer exist or have framebusters to get out of googles hotlink..

now go to yahoo images and type the same search item, and you wont find one popup , one javascript , or one framebuster , because they have all been nulled..

i.e. yahoo images search is WAY better than google's simply for the fact its easier to find what you want.. the money will come later.. google has proven that..

How much money do you think google made before adwords :winkwink: .. less than nothing lol the whole idea was give away a free usefull service until you have a monopoly , then load them with ads , sell everything and build more monopoloys :)

actually mate - i just checked a mainstream site of mine and the frame buster did just that with the yahoo images search. But again that was with FF.

Pete-KT 06-07-2006 05:03 AM

another reason IE sucks :)

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie
Can't you just smack a decent JavaScript framebreaker script up? Failing that, if Yahoo disables a JavaScript one, fuck 'em over and use a PHP one - i'd like to see you disable some server-side shit... oh wait... you can't.

can you add php or javascript framebusters to the galleries you submit to the hun ?

I didnt think so :) and if your pages arent php ? then your SOL

and no framebusters dont work..

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw
actually mate - i just checked a mainstream site of mine and the frame buster did just that with the yahoo images search. But again that was with FF.

Thats because firefox doesnt have the functionality to put sites into a restricted security zone.. Its not a clever way around yahoo, Its basically just a tag that firefox doesnt support so they just ignore it..

TheSenator 06-07-2006 09:05 AM

If you are a hardcore webmaster you should be using IE to see what most of your demographics is seeing while surfing your sites.

IE is still the most used browser in the world.

FIREFOX is the best but not everybody uses it.


Yahoo sucks for doing that shit!

extreme 06-07-2006 09:21 AM

Hmm, I can't seem to find that tag in the standard...
Some MS only nonstandard invention?

2HousePlague 06-07-2006 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digifan
Conclusion: we have to spread firefox :)

Correct!


2hp

~Ray 06-07-2006 10:35 AM

how can we get around this smokey? any clever codes up your sleeve? :)

~Ray

David - PG 06-07-2006 02:10 PM

Misleading thread. Yahoo isn't stealing anything.

asdfqwer 06-07-2006 02:15 PM

Just use Mozilla,for that and many other reasons

RogerV10 06-07-2006 03:10 PM

Thats why i use firefox. It stops this.

fuzebox 06-07-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
can you add php or javascript framebusters to the galleries you submit to the hun ?

I didnt think so :) and if your pages arent php ? then your SOL

mod_rewrite? :) Every page and gallery on every one of my domain busts the frame depending on the referrer...

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV10
Thats why i use firefox. It stops this.

.. thats like saying my airbag in my car is better because i dont have any.

The security=restricted tag is a USEFULL tool that firefox doesnt understand how to implement.. thats all.

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox
mod_rewrite? :) Every page and gallery on every one of my domain busts the frame depending on the referrer...

ifd like to see an example :) i havent found one page that busts yahoo's frame.. the best your gonna do is serve a different page/image to them , but it aint busting out of the frame..

~Ray 06-07-2006 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox
mod_rewrite? :) Every page and gallery on every one of my domain busts the frame depending on the referrer...

did you notice an increase in sales when you made that change?

aico 06-07-2006 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
yah i didnt even realise firefox ignores the security=restricted tag..

so this doesnt happen in firefox only in i.e.

thanks for the head sup i was just about to post

Same with safari, which is basically the same as Firefox.

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David - PG
Misleading thread. Yahoo isn't stealing anything.

what would you call it when someone takes your images without your permission , then causes bandwidth to your site while making all your banners not work..

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
did you notice an increase in sales when you made that change?

i dont even thnk its possible.. you cant set cookies or use javascript in a security=restriced frame , so i dont see how anyone could purchase anything while in yahoo's frame

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfqwer
Just use Mozilla,for that and many other reasons

I fail to see the logic in that.. that doesnt help my site 1 iota as the majority of the internet doesnt use mozilla..

I also fail to see how using a browser that lacks functionality is "better". The only reason the tag doesnt work in mozilla is because they are constantly playing catch-up with the browsers the majority of internet users use. I bet the next upgrade of firefox includes this tag.. Seems rather silly if you have been ripped off , to ignore the problem and figure its not a problem if i cant see them stealing my shit..

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David - PG
Misleading thread. Yahoo isn't stealing anything.

so i take it that means i have permission to hotlink your materials and change the way your site appears ? cool.

Quickdraw 06-07-2006 04:16 PM

My bet is they added the "restricted" frames to help combat all the trojans/malware in thier results, and to reduce the negative publicity that has been coming with them.

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw
My bet is they added the "restricted" frames to help combat all the trojans/malware in thier results, and to reduce the negative publicity that has been coming with them.

I dont doubt thats part of the reason , but thats like saying " we are going to wear gloves when we rip off your content now because we kept cutting our fingers on the glass you used to protect your shit from being stolen..

The torjans and malware are put there because site owners dont want yahoo stealing their shit..

testpie 06-07-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i dont even thnk its possible.. you cant set cookies or use javascript in a security=restriced frame , so i dont see how anyone could purchase anything while in yahoo's frame

Anything's possible :D. You just write an apache .htaccess to check the referer, or use a bit of PHP and some trickery to stop Yahoo from doing it.

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 04:25 PM

put it this way , does anyone thinks its acceptable for me to hotlink all your images , display them in one convenient place , then give you some credit but alter the way your site works/operates so a surfer cant actually buy anything..

Anyone who answers yes to this , please let me know.

SmokeyTheBear 06-07-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie
Anything's possible :D.

cool turn me some dogshit into gold please :winkwink:
Quote:

Originally Posted by testpie

You just write an apache .htaccess to check the referer, or use a bit of PHP and some trickery to stop Yahoo from doing it.

and that helps how ?? as i explained all your going to be able to do is show a different image or page , your not gonna be able to bust out of the frame.. If you can and its so easy , please find me an example of such a site . and then explain to me why i have to spend my time protecting my content so yahoo doesnt steal it and reproduce it without y permission , while also changing the way my site appears..

Quickdraw 06-07-2006 04:31 PM

While I do see your point, I doubt the malware is put there specifically because of Yahoo. I think the malware comes from greedy twats that aren't smart enough to make money in an honorable fashion.(Although, the malware epidemic could make surfers more apt to break out their credit cards to stay in a 'safe zone', maybe)
I also don't think it's right that they have mangled websites within those frames, but am unclear on what to do about it at this point. I am confident you will find something ;)

testpie 06-07-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
cool turn me some dogshit into gold please :winkwink:

and that helps how ?? as i explained all your going to be able to do is show a different image or page , your not gonna be able to bust out of the frame.. If you can and its so easy , please find me an example of such a site . and then explain to me why i have to spend my time protecting my content so yahoo doesnt steal it and reproduce it without y permission , while also changing the way my site appears..

Well i can see you are in an amiable mood on this fine eve'. I'm not entirely sure of the details, but i'm sure that there is nothing to stop a quick apache .htaccess mod that basically checks the referer to file x.ext, and if it maches yahoo, simply redirects the user to the actual file x.ext - all before Yahoo's code even displays the initial image.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:46 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123