An idiot's post and its translation
 

translation: I don't understand the difference between sales volume and profit.

translation: over my entire internet life, I've paid a bunch of guys to do a little work for me. That makes me important damn it!


translation: and that's not counting something I don't have and you have 50,000 of.

translation: I saw on Oprah last week that there isn't a big difference between 5 million a year and a half million a year. so now I can just be mad *once* about not making *either*

translation: I've gotten as far as I can with TGPs and shit, it's not like I'll come up with any other ideas.

translation:employees require that you have a business. otherwise, we'd just all pile into the trailer and stare at each other.

Good stuff, I think ambition is the most important thing in bussiness.

ok 12clicks but you have to admint that employees are a pain in the ass -- after paying them, health benefits, entertainment taxes, time training, paperwork, bullshitting, equipment, office space, etc. etc...

Not that I know anything about running a big biz ;) but I wouldn't want to -- I may need some coding work done for me now though... I have a lot of ideas that I'm too lazy to code myself...

its the cost of doing business. don't fear it embrace it.

see, you're already headed down that road.

when you're an idea man, you need guys to get stuff done so you can keep coming up with ideas.

when your a TGP dope, you can kinda do it all yourself.

interesting how you said you weren't going to respond to me before.

what was thing you allways say about pulling a finger?????

I think what he said was, he wasn't going to reply to you in that thread, as he wanted to keep it to Q&A for sensible questions...

*hint hint*

depends on your defination of 'here' I guess. I took it to mean GFY, maybe it meant the thread. I suppose it's like his TOS though, there's always a way for Ron to get out of it.

here's more wisdom:

translation:my law teacher at my trailer park worked part time as my dog. He didn't understand what "beg, incent, or require" meant and neither do I

translation: as I've proven time and again on this board, I don't understand what "reflect negatively" means

translation: I don't understand copywrite and licensing laws and, well shit, this would hurt all my trades if we couldn't steal content

translation: I don't understand the difference between a webpage and an account agreement.

translation: christ, I better say no one has perfect stats so I can start building my defence when my trades start asking me what I have to hide.
I'm not smart enough to know that server logs don't lie so I'll call them "stats" and throw the newbies off.

translation: I can't read contracts, nor do I understand this business. I don't understand that "indiscriminately" doesn't have a "u" in it.
oh, hell. lets face it, if I keep throwing up lies about my betters, something has to stick. doesn't it?

What I want to know 12clicks...

Calling SleaxyDream an idiot.

Were did you learn how to talk like that.

God's going to get you..
or is that the other guy...

like I've been saying all along - 12clicks can twist and turn anything into what he wants it to say.......... keep yanking on my finger man.


looking at the size of the posts you did here it must be buggin the living shit out of you not be be able to respond to me in the other thread.........

translation: I have no defence for my stupidity.
I talk out my ass and when called on it, I pretend someone twists the truth to make it sound like, um.......well, the truth.

I remember 12clicks shut off a guy's account and called him a cheater cos that guy had the 'right click disable' javascript on his page and 12clicks could not figure out how to see the html - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

I expected a little more than that from the mighty 12clicks. re-read what you said as a response, you made fun of yourself???????????

yeah, thats it.
funny how you guys can pull up 1/10th of a story and make it sound good.

translation: my 3rd grade education has confused me again.

that's not the whole story. The guy didn't read the TOS, there was 1 hit of 12 million that 12clicks couldn't account for from the server stats so he wouldn't pay.

:eek7

translation: if I just keep talking shit, someone will buy into it.

hope the new job as a translator is going well. Seems to fit in nicly with your TOS.

A=B

translation: A=C

No, he accounted for that one hit later. That was 12clicks trying to figure out how to stop the right-click-disabling. He just didnt figure out it was his own IP address till it got pointed out to him.

Maybe sleazebag will get it now that you spelled it out for him.

I understand Volume, thats for sure.

oh look sleazy has a friend.


or a second account.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Clutching at straws, he is. May the force with him be.

hey - I must say that you know about spelling. Comes with the sexertary job title I guess.

yeah, I'm about to go under. you've finished me.
ahahahahahaah

translated: "i am the almighty 12clicks, i have a big ego -- and damnit it makes me money so i can afford to drown my sorrows in expensive wine and adequate looking hookers."

translating is *my* job ;)

under the table is more like it. have another beer 12clicks.......

What's wrong with adequate looking hookers?

did I say something was wrong?

I do not discriminate -- i just translate.

translation: join me at my favorite past time at the trailer. I'll even wear my dress up ballcap

May the whores be with him - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

May DIVORCE be with him - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I Crack myself up with my wit, BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Make it stop someone, make this idiot stop... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

gee dude, your IQ must be pretty high






















NOT :1orglaugh

Not only can I spell, I can see right thru to those that are in great need of attention, due to an underdeveloped sense of self-esteem. Get some help, you need it.

as i recall the original thread regarding shap was really about fhwl and then shap came on to defend him - it was about 2 years ago - i could be wrong, after all these threads start to blend in to each other after a while.

what i do recall very clearly is that in the years before that incident and the 2 years or so after, 12clicks has posted tons on links and info proving his case regarding cheaters and those who have broken his tos, i have never yet seen anyone posting anything to prove that he is wrong.

if someone has maybe you can post the link below.

that';s not fair!!!!:)
I post 1,000 links over a couple of years, and you're willing to call it all rubbish if someone can "post *the* link below"?
not fair I tell you!!!:1orglaugh
I hold MYSELF to those standards but I don't want EVERYONE to.:1orglaugh

12Clicks is an aids drooling homosexual, you can tell by his posts... i think he used to be a catholic priest until they let him go for 'disciplinary' problems against alter boys....

Sleazy -- you are a big dog, and always will be!! Don't let the plebians bring you down!!

hehe, KK comes to my defence and cheesy gets this.
too funny, and typical :1orglaugh

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Maybe the fun element of me vanished today along with my gearbox - but why do KK and 12clicks keep replying?

Momma always said 'Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level - then beat you with experience.'

I can't recall 12clicks catching a cheater.... and being proven wrong yet.... If so like someone else said... Post it....

I do not and have never used any of his programs... But from what I read.... if your honest.... you will never have a problem getting paid....

This really is a problem for some people.... As they think the only way of doing business is by cheating or trying to cheat sponsors... When if they were honest they would come out way ahead in the long run... :2 cents:

jimmy you can't deny that newbies are a dime a dozen and that there's an easy profit to be made w/ an open TOS and vague rules and w/ sneaky stats and with good timing you can make a big profit all in the name of cheating newbies... and where there is money, there will be people to take it... The automated form of you-are-a-cheating-webmaster trick is "sorry you have been removed from the click-program for low conversions -- now you are on our PER-SIGNUP program" -- HOW many times have you heard that! ;) Well I can think of lots of ways to cheat newbies out of their traffic but I will stop now.

I know Shap and I know FHWL, both are stand up guys that I like, respect and work with. 12clicks is the only person I know who has said anything bad about them, yet I know MANY MANY other reputable webmasters who say nastly things about 12clicks. I havn't done any business with him (to my knowledge) so what I say isn't first hand though. All I know is that he repeatidly trashes people who I trust and work with.

Yip I have seen site's with vague rules, (never looked at 12clicks rules) I tend to just move on, if it's not "REAL" clear to me.
But I must say I learned this from the boards.... If I can not understand it, they will not get any of this curmudgeon's business... I'll just trot on down the net's super Hwy with a chortle.

I also tend to quit promoteing sponsors if I do not get sign ups very fast as within 200 to 300 clicks...
But I know my traffic... and I usually get'm sign ups... or they just don't click on the sponsor... and this is mostly with text links...
That part I do not understand.... why they will click a text link and not a banner... and the text links are just the name of the site...
Not
click here for the Blow Job of your life or stuff like that...
that I don't understand

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profit to be made w/ an open TOS and vague rules and w/ sneaky stats and with good timing you can make a big profit all in the name of cheating
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Yes this is true.... I have signed up for programs and did not get
sign ups within 200 to 300 clicks.... and go back and read the TOS carefull and drop'm... Get pissed at myself for over looking some confuseing shit i n there TOS....

One comes to mind.... will not post them here.... was when I 1st started in this Biz. Did feel good one day when I went to check my stats and there page said ..... THIS PAGE HACKED BY SO & SO... FOR CHEATING WEBMASTERS...
I guess what goes around comes around...

It's just too easy, Kat... ;)

Hrmmm.. my assessment: 12 Clicks=winning, Sleazy=losing.

I reccommend that Sleazy start appealing to the compassion of the audience, since 12 Clicks clearly has won based on the facts -- but don't underestimate the power of compassion.

come on Mc fly, just when you're proving to me that you have an understanding of this business you post this crap in a thread of mine.
There is no money in cheating newbies. do you think I've made my money off of newbies 5 bucks at a time? use your head.
My TOS are very clear. don't cheat, get paid. make a mistake, get a chance to fix it. its that simple.
When you resort to listening to a liar like sleazy, you may become confused.
No one, no one, let me say it again, NO ONE could be as public a figure as I and do so well in this business if I were cheating people.
Some theives just spin a better story than others.
And some TGP wanna bees side with them in the hopes of improving their trades so alexa will tell the world that despite making no money their stats say, "I am somebody"

Did we determine whose dick is bigger yet???

:glugglug