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theking 05-29-2006 04:30 AM

Remember why we fight
 
...in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Iraq war was never primarily about WMD's.
The Iraq war was never primarily about oil.

The Iraq war is an extension of what will be a multiple decade long war against Islamic extremists/terrorists. An effort to change the face of the middle east and bring mid east countries into the 21st century with democratic governments.

ControlThy 05-29-2006 04:31 AM

Okay.

Thanks for sharing.

Rebecca Love 05-29-2006 04:32 AM

You now have been schooled. :thumbsup

PussyTeenies 05-29-2006 04:34 AM

sig spot

war is pointless

sacX 05-29-2006 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking
...in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Iraq war was never primarily about WMD's.
The Iraq war was never primarily about oil.

The Iraq war is an extension of what will be a multiple decade long war against Islamic extremists/terrorists. An effort to change the face of the middle east and bring mid east countries into the 21st century with democratic governments.

Iraq *was* the most secular nation in the middle east...

Luc Lonely 05-29-2006 04:43 AM

pathfinder, I thought you were dead sir. Happy Memorial day to you anyway, my enemy.
Viet Cong .

The Duck 05-29-2006 04:46 AM

"The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th
The New World Order was born on September 11"
- Immortal Technique

theking 05-29-2006 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX
Iraq *was* the most secular nation in the middle east...

It is also strategically located...its leader was an avowed enemy of the US...its defiance of the UN and the cease fire agreements ...made itself easy to beat the drums of war against. These things combined caused it to be selected as an extention on the "global war" on "terrorism".

en21 05-29-2006 04:59 AM

nope .... who r u ????

Luc Lonely 05-29-2006 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by en21
nope .... who r u ????

TheKing= Pathfinder , a vietnam vet .

kanalj 05-29-2006 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking
...in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Iraq war was never primarily about WMD's.
The Iraq war was never primarily about oil.

The Iraq war is an extension of what will be a multiple decade long war against Islamic extremists/terrorists. An effort to change the face of the middle east and bring mid east countries into the 21st century with democratic governments.

You watch to much g'damn TV, sir.
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.co...de-to-911.html


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Originally Posted by kandah
"The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th
The New World Order was born on September 11"
- Immortal Technique

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Theo 05-29-2006 05:08 AM

yeah whatever lol

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-29-2006 05:22 AM

Yeah, it is good for a spot!

theking 05-29-2006 07:59 AM

Bump for others to remember.

StuartD 05-29-2006 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking
...in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Iraq war was never primarily about WMD's.


wrong. :glugglug

FetishDollars 05-29-2006 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking
...in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Iraq war was never primarily about oil.

Wrong! )

mortenb 05-29-2006 08:18 AM

I remember hoping that you had quit the business.

theking 05-29-2006 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mortenb
I remember hoping that you had quit the business.

Really? I don't remember a single post made by you.

Enema 05-29-2006 09:46 AM

Everytime I see you post I ask myself the same thing, but I never ask you.

So now I'm going to!

What is a hoss!?

Corona 05-29-2006 09:58 AM

So how does destroying their infastructure, torturing and executing civilians expand democracy?

stickyfingerz 05-29-2006 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX
Iraq *was* the most secular nation in the middle east...

Not even close buddy. Ever hear of Israel? Ever hear of Dubai? :uhoh

Kuwait for that matter...

marketsmart 05-29-2006 10:45 AM

war... what is good for... abosutley nothing... huh... good god...

mortenb 05-29-2006 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
Really? I don't remember a single post made by you.

That could be because I don't spend my time being an attention seeking idiot that does nothing but try to encourage hatred like you.

directfiesta 05-29-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Not even close buddy. Ever hear of Israel? Ever hear of Dubai? :uhoh

Kuwait for that matter...


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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The absence of strong secular political parties in Egypt, Jordan, and Kuwait .....

http://www.usip.org/pubs/specialreports/sr144.html
:1orglaugh

really clueless ... how about posting some links to back your claims ( I know, you never do that , you possess the truth ... )

Doctor Dre 05-29-2006 11:13 AM

I gotta agree with you, of one wanted to control the middle east, with every allies they already have there, the US would have to invade Iraq to be strategically placed.

stickyfingerz 05-29-2006 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh



:1orglaugh

really clueless ... how about posting some links to back your claims ( I know, you never do that , you possess the truth ... )

Are you saying Kuwait isnt currently more secular than most of the middle east including Iraq? :uhoh

directfiesta 05-29-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Are you saying Kuwait isnt currently more secular than most of the middle east including Iraq? :uhoh

learn to read ...

I myself didn't read in your post the words MORE or LESS ... You stated that Kuwait was secular. Point. End.

So back it up.

theking 05-29-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortenb
That could be because I don't spend my time being an attention seeking idiot that does nothing but try to encourage hatred like you.

It seems that you seek attention by posting on this board and by posting in this thread in particular. Hmm...what hatred do I try to encourage? Hatred against what/whom?

stickyfingerz 05-29-2006 11:22 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ationTower.jpg

I srsly get tired of you being so fuckin retarded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait#Mass_media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madinat_al-Hareer

Here is an artists rendition of the project Kuwait currently has underway.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...17/Madinat.jpg

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Madinat al-Hareer, meaning City of Silk, is a proposed 250 square kilometer planned urban area in Subiya, Kuwait, an area just opposite Kuwait City which, upon construction, would include the Mubarak al-Kabir Tower, the world's tallest structure, a natural desert reservation of 200 hectares, a duty free area which will be beside a new airport, in addition to a large business center, conference areas, environmental areas, athletic areas, and areas that concentrate on media, health, education, and industry. The city of Silk will also include numerous tourist attractions, hotels, spas, and public gardens. As of this time, it is unclear as to the scope of this project, if it has received any approvals, or if it has the required funding. However, it is estimated that the project will take twenty five years to complete and will cost an estimated 25 billion Kuwaiti Dinars (86.1 billion USD)
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Kuwait has 8 TV channels (4 controlled by the Ministry of Information), 2 modern English FM stations, mostly targeting the Westerners residing in Kuwait (one playing latest Western pop music and hits, while the other one playing Jazz, Blues and other light music), a few Arabic radio stations, 5 daily newspapers published in Arabic, and 3 daily newspapers published in English (Arab Times & Kuwait Times). The newspapers exercise self-censorship. No newspaper is permitted to criticize the executive authority, however criticizing other member of the ruling family is permitted. All newspapers in Kuwait were established with a "princely decree". For the past 30 years there have been demands to allow the establishment of other newspapers, but with no response from government. Also there is one private radio station (Marina FM) named after the shopping complex of the same name, Marina World.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_World



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Kuwait's largest shopping mall, Marina World, opened its first phase to international acclaim in November 2002. The second phase of the complex followed in early 2004, and the third and final phase is currently underway, due for completion at the end of 2005. It is located on the beachfront in Kuwait's exclusive shopping district of Salmiya, and is home to many restaurants, shops, convention halls, promenade areas, and a five-star hotel.

Ya that country is right out of the stone age, so backwards and no secular. You fuckin moron. :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 05-29-2006 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
learn to read ...

I myself didn't read in your post the words MORE or LESS ... You stated that Kuwait was secular. Point. End.

So back it up.

See above mental midget. :1orglaugh

leedsfan 05-29-2006 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking
...in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Iraq war was never primarily about WMD's.
The Iraq war was never primarily about oil.

The Iraq war is an extension of what will be a multiple decade long war against Islamic extremists/terrorists. An effort to change the face of the middle east and bring mid east countries into the 21st century with democratic governments.


ho ho ho, no presents for you this year, child.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-29-2006 11:31 AM

I thought there was already an attempt at democracy a few years back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mossadegh
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB126/index.htm

directfiesta 05-29-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
See above mental midget. :1orglaugh

Are you in real estate ...

Again, post an article ( not pictures of buildings ) saying that Kuwait is secular ...

You know how many oil rich countries build these lavish extravaganza of money ? Doesn't make Saudi Arabia " secular " ....

Remember, you made that claim, not me...

Reminder: You REALLY are an idiot

shiloh451 05-29-2006 11:36 AM

Remember Iran is supposedly democratic. Islam is a book of laws. Give Muslims the vote and eventually you have a theocratic state.
Is it possible to impose democracy on a society that is not ready for it? Take a country composed of 3 distinct factions, that was artificially created in the 1st place. Take away all the bureaucratic governing structure and expect the citizens to form a functioning government while in the midst of, for all practical purposes, a civil war is IMHO ludicrous.

stickyfingerz 05-29-2006 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
Are you in real estate ...

Again, post an article ( not pictures of buildings ) saying that Kuwait is secular ...

You know how many oil rich countries build these lavish extravaganza of money ? Doesn't make Saudi Arabia " secular " ....

Remember, you made that claim, not me...

Reminder: You REALLY are an idiot

You are amazingly stupid. Read my whole post. Another thing is only 57% of the population are arabs.

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As of the end of 2005, Kuwait had a total population of 2.992 million people which included 1.999 million non-nationals[1]. Kuwaiti citizens are a minority of those who reside in Kuwait. The government only rarely grants citizenship to non-citizens (who are generally referred to as expatriates). About 57% of the Kuwaiti population is Arab; Arab expatriates include a large group of stateless Arabs, locally known as Bidoon (an Arabic word meaning "without" and different from Bedouin), along with Egyptians, Lebanese and other Arabs. Other large groups of expatriates include Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis and Filipinos. In 2003, more than 400,000 Indian nationals lived in Kuwait[2], making them the largest expatriate community in the oil-rich state[3]. Kuwait formerly had a large Palestinian population, though most of them were forced out of the country after PLO leader Yassir Arafat's support of Iraq during the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait.

The official language is Arabic, although English is generally understood. Hindi, Urdu, Bengali, Tamil and other Indian languages are largely spoken by expatriates from the Indian subcontinent. About 85% of Kuwait's population are Muslims, it is estimated that around 81% of them are Sunni, and around 19% or slightly more are Shia Muslims. Of the Kuwaiti citizen population, however, about 70% are Sunni, and about 30% are Shia Muslims. Kuwait also has a significant Christian and Hindu population.

directfiesta 05-29-2006 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
You are amazingly stupid. Read my whole post. Another thing is only 57% of the population are arabs.

So, where does it say that it is " secular " ... Is it that difficult for you to back up your claim ?

So, you think Iranians are Arabs, I suppose ...

Get an education, twitpick :321GFY

stickyfingerz 05-29-2006 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
So, where does it say that it is " secular " ... Is it that difficult for you to back up your claim ?

So, you think Iranians are Arabs, I suppose ...

Get an education, twitpick :321GFY

Please give us your definition of secular.

directfiesta 05-29-2006 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Please give us your definition of secular.


About time you admit your ignorance ...

I will give you THE definition of secular :

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=secular

and an interpretation of actual situation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...od/3518375.stm

:2 cents:

directfiesta 05-29-2006 01:25 PM

OK... that took care of that ... :1orglaugh

Relish XXX 05-29-2006 01:41 PM

I could prove to you in one paragraph why Iraq and Afghanistan was about oil and gas but it isnt worth it as no matter what I said you would still think that you were right.

sacX 05-29-2006 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Not even close buddy. Ever hear of Israel? Ever hear of Dubai? :uhoh

Kuwait for that matter...

Do you know what secular means? Under Hussein Iraq was essentially without religion. Buy a dictionary lamer.

tony286 05-29-2006 08:13 PM

this may shock you but maybe they dont want our kind of democracy. Then people wonder why they dont like us, this arrogance. lol

stickyfingerz 05-29-2006 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX
Do you know what secular means? Under Hussein Iraq was essentially without religion. Buy a dictionary lamer.

Secular as used in the mainstream media, and common language does not always pinpoint religion. Let me ask you this is America, and Canada "secular" or not "secular"?

directfiesta 05-29-2006 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Secular as used in the mainstream media, and common language does not always pinpoint religion. Let me ask you this is America, and Canada "secular" or not "secular"?


- " Deal " or " No deal "
- " Good guy " - " Bad Guy "
- " With us " or " Terrorists "
- " White " - " Black "

You live in a simplistic world ... and still haven't backed up your " secular Kuwait ".... Stay on Kuwait, forget Canada or USA ... Kuwait ...
Crawl back under your rock.

stickyfingerz 05-30-2006 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
- " Deal " or " No deal "
- " Good guy " - " Bad Guy "
- " With us " or " Terrorists "
- " White " - " Black "

You live in a simplistic world ... and still haven't backed up your " secular Kuwait ".... Stay on Kuwait, forget Canada or USA ... Kuwait ...
Crawl back under your rock.

Being its Tuesday and I have real work to do today, Ill stay under my "work" rock today and just leave you with this. You sir are an American hating idiot. :2 cents:

Basic_man 05-30-2006 09:08 AM

The war in Iraq is for Bush's family making more money. Final.

directfiesta 05-30-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Being its Tuesday and I have real work to do today, Ill stay under my "work" rock today and just leave you with this. You sir are an American hating idiot. :2 cents:


OK... I don't agree with your " secular Kuwait " claim , so I hate America.... :1orglaugh
.." secular Kuwait ", statement that you still have not backed up ... as usual with all your brilliant analysis ....

As I said above, you live in a simple world that an idiot like you need to live ....


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