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Paul Markham 05-29-2006 02:52 AM

Content Scammer Alert.
 
Just been looking at some content that was offered for sale to me. As always I checked it thoroughly.

The IDs and models releases are from different producers, the styles are from different producers and some of it has no documents, well I can't find them.

Not accusing the seller of selling something he has no right to, but I am emailing a few of the shooters who have got the ID left on the MR.

And will tell them to come here and confirm the seller has the rights to sell.

Now I've found a model release from Sobe Girl and it says "Not for Resale"

Seems the scam alert just raised itself a notch.

SO BE WARNED.

amacontent 05-29-2006 02:56 AM

SOBE has stolen oer 400 scenes from me top scammer he is

Paul Markham 05-29-2006 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent
SOBE has stolen oer 400 scenes from me top scammer he is

DOES THAT MEAN I CAN STEAL FROM SOMEONE TRYING TO SELL HIS CONTENT?

AaronM 05-29-2006 02:59 AM

Some have accused me of being a scammer as well. It's nice to be in the same category as Sobe. [/sarcasm]

Zarathustra 05-29-2006 03:01 AM

I think you're right, I saw the same thing glancing through the 20 videos and 2257. It doesn't look legit

Paul Markham 05-29-2006 03:01 AM

Emailed Eric.

Can't believe I'm covering his ass. :1orglaugh

Might even be some of yours here Aaron, some of it's good.

Paul Markham 05-29-2006 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarathustra
I think you're right, I saw the same thing glancing through the 20 videos and 2257. It doesn't look legit

I will do a search on the boards and post an alert.

After lunch.

Zarathustra 05-29-2006 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
I will do a search on the boards and post an alert.

After lunch.


Thanks Paul. I had a hunch after looking at them + the person didn't know what a license was either when asked.

AaronM 05-29-2006 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Emailed Eric.

Can't believe I'm covering his ass. :1orglaugh

Might even be some of yours here Aaron, some of it's good.


Good you say?

Nope, doesn't sound like my stuff. :1orglaugh

Michaelious 05-29-2006 03:20 AM

is it really stealing or just a little borrowing?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-29-2006 03:31 AM

Find out who it is and vett em out?

Or is SOBE striking again?

Paul Markham 05-29-2006 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Good you say?

Nope, doesn't sound like my stuff. :1orglaugh

It was in focus which confirmed to me it could not be yours. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 05-29-2006 04:46 AM

The guy is calling himself Adonthenet and the FTP addresses he gave me were. 65.98.115.147 and 65.98.115.147 which are both now blocked to me.

Someone with more Internet savvy can trace him from that.

The Duck 05-29-2006 04:53 AM

wtf? Adonthenet is selling stolen content?

Zarathustra 05-29-2006 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah
wtf? Adonthenet is selling stolen content?

Yes Kandah. Did you buy from him? He also goes by the name "jkroeis" Google him and you will find him all over the forums. He is selling stolen content

John69 05-29-2006 06:20 AM

that sucks

Violetta 05-29-2006 06:24 AM

sell-and-buy-forum/613515-110-sets-sale-pix-inside.html

this?

Paul Markham 05-29-2006 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

Yes that's the offer.

Choppa 05-29-2006 06:39 AM

thanks for the info guys :thumbsup

Altwebdesign 05-29-2006 06:41 AM

great info for buyers!

adonthenet 05-29-2006 07:53 AM

wtf going on with you guys?!?!!?
I PAID BIG BUCKS TO HAVE RESELL RIGHTS!!!!1

adonthenet 05-29-2006 07:56 AM

THATS REALY SHIT BRO!!!
BIG SHIT!
I paid big $$$$ from my own pocket to have all the resell rights!!!
talk to the guys.. you know 'em!
wtf your saying this stuff here on GFY?!?!
trying to kill my good name?!?! WTF?!?!?!

JD 05-29-2006 07:58 AM

AaronM stole my girlfriend and resold her :upsidedow

Violetta 05-29-2006 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet
THATS REALY SHIT BRO!!!
BIG SHIT!
I paid big $$$$ from my own pocket to have all the resell rights!!!
talk to the guys.. you know 'em!
wtf your saying this stuff here on GFY?!?!
trying to kill my good name?!?! WTF?!?!?!

I guess Paul Markham have to answer...

The Duck 05-29-2006 08:01 AM

I think Paul need to clear this out, ive done biz with adonthenet and as far as I know hes cool.

theking 05-29-2006 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet
THATS REALY SHIT BRO!!!
BIG SHIT!
I paid big $$$$ from my own pocket to have all the resell rights!!!
talk to the guys.. you know 'em!
wtf your saying this stuff here on GFY?!?!
trying to kill my good name?!?! WTF?!?!?!

Clueless is simply trying to eliminate the competition...don't you think?

Zarathustra 05-29-2006 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet
THATS REALY SHIT BRO!!!
BIG SHIT!
I paid big $$$$ from my own pocket to have all the resell rights!!!
talk to the guys.. you know 'em!
wtf your saying this stuff here on GFY?!?!
trying to kill my good name?!?! WTF?!?!?!

Where are your resale rights? lets see them. Shouldn't be a problem since you say you "have all the resell rights!!!"

L-Pink 05-29-2006 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah
I think Paul need to clear this out, ive done biz with adonthenet and as far as I know hes cool.


Well, if you say it's true ...:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 05-29-2006 08:22 AM

I jhust got off the phone with Eric, it seems he might of sold this content to this guy. The whole thing is on hold.

Eric supplied the content with a big "Not for Resale" on the model release.

king baby where have you been all this time?

DaLord 05-29-2006 08:24 AM

Is Eric = Sobe? -Or someone else?

PantieZ 05-29-2006 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
I jhust got off the phone with Eric, it seems he might of sold this content to this guy. The whole thing is on hold.

Eric supplied the content with a big "Not for Resale" on the model release.

king baby where have you been all this time?


Man ... next time make your Phonecalls before post shit here :2 cents:
Not that professional as you claim to be.

wonderman 05-29-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Emailed Eric.

Can't believe I'm covering his ass. :1orglaugh

Might even be some of yours here Aaron, some of it's good.

Paul, you are not covering my ass. I gave this person the permission to sell the SoBeGirl content. He is allowed to sell it and I would appreciate you not starting all this drama for nothing.

adonthenet 05-29-2006 08:35 AM

Thanks a lot!!!! Eric.
id just wait now for some big apology from paul.
damn ... next time talk and find out before just posting... just like Pantiez said..
Not that professional as you claim to be.
=\\

digifan 05-29-2006 08:38 AM

Ouch it sucks.

AaronM 05-29-2006 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonderman
Paul, you are not covering my ass. I gave this person the permission to sell the SoBeGirl content. He is allowed to sell it and I would appreciate you not starting all this drama for nothing.


The problem is that you have been accused of selling stolen content as well.

Screaming 05-29-2006 09:25 AM

that sucks....

mardigras 05-29-2006 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking
Clueless is simply trying to eliminate the competition...don't you think?

I thought you only dropped in to promote Memorial Day:winkwink:

jacked 05-29-2006 09:40 AM

fucking scammers... someone make an example out of one of these asshats maybe then they'll learn

AaronM 05-29-2006 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet
Thanks a lot!!!! Eric.
id just wait now for some big apology from paul.
damn ... next time talk and find out before just posting... just like Pantiez said..
Not that professional as you claim to be.
=\\


WTF? Look man, it's mot like you are new around here or something. Have you not read all the shit Sobe has pulled over the years? Perhaps you should have researched before buying from this guy.

Here's a tip....Never do business with anybody who has that shitty of a reputation and is forced to change their GFY name on a regular basis in order to continue to sell their product.

Sobe sold a product, which may or may not even be his, and Sobe made the mistake of putting the not for resale message on the paperwork. Now, with Sobe's history and that shit on the paperwork...Any normal person would see it the same way Paul did.

Paul has no need to apologize because the fact remains that SOBE SELLS STOLEN CONTENT.

marketsmart 05-29-2006 10:55 AM

lets all get naked and start a revolution...

PantieZ 05-29-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
WTF? Look man, it's mot like you are new around here or something. Have you not read all the shit Sobe has pulled over the years? Perhaps you should have researched before buying from this guy.

Here's a tip....Never do business with anybody who has that shitty of a reputation and is forced to change their GFY name on a regular basis in order to continue to sell their product.

Sobe sold a product, which may or may not even be his, and Sobe made the mistake of putting the not for resale message on the paperwork. Now, with Sobe's history and that shit on the paperwork...Any normal person would see it the same way Paul did.

Paul has no need to apologize because the fact remains that SOBE SELLS STOLEN CONTENT.


Paul has to apologize to him ... because he called hin scammer and it seems he is not ...

maybe he sells content from SoBe that was stolen ... maybe ...
but maybe the content thats sobe stole was stolen from a producer that stole it ....

thats not the point ! :2 cents:

Fizzgig 05-29-2006 11:05 AM

Where's the llama?

L-Pink 05-29-2006 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ
Paul has to apologize to him ... because he called hin scammer and it seems he is not ...

maybe he sells content from SoBe that was stolen ... maybe ...
but maybe the content thats sobe stole was stolen from a producer that stole it ....

thats not the point ! :2 cents:

THE POINT?

The point is if you are selling content as a business, to end users, you better make sure it's all LEGAL!

If not you are a liar, scammer, thief, slacker, etc ....

The ramifications from violation of state, federal, or civil prosecution are to severe for a content seller to not diligently research the background of his product. Unless he of course is a retard. If he just doesn't care then he falls under one of the above categories.

Soo he was selling content not for resale? If he is retarted he is forgiven.


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AaronM 05-29-2006 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ
Paul has to apologize to him ... because he called hin scammer and it seems he is not ...

maybe he sells content from SoBe that was stolen ... maybe ...
but maybe the content thats sobe stole was stolen from a producer that stole it ....

thats not the point ! :2 cents:


Paul does not have to do anything but stay white and die....And by looking at him, he's half dead now anyway.

Sobe sold this guy questionable content and that makes this guy questionable now if he is reselling it.

Paul is not trying to eliminate competition, he's trying to help protect people from buying potentially stolen goods.

People should be thanking him for taking an active role in protecting them. Fucking ingrates. :321GFY

Once again, Paul didn't fuck up. Sobe fucked up and adonthenet fucked up by doing business with Sobe. WTF was he thinking?

L-Pink 05-29-2006 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Just been looking at some content that was offered for sale to me. As always I checked it thoroughly.
Now I've found a model release from Sobe Girl and it says "Not for Resale"
SO BE WARNED.


Thank-you Paul,

For being experienced enough, careful enough, successful enough not to want to loose everything in a lawsuit, (deep-pocket defendant) that you researched before using illegal content.

To anyone purchasing content .... lesson learned?

Note: "Your Honor he told me it was all ok" is not a very good legal defense.


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baddog 05-29-2006 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacked
fucking scammers... someone make an example out of one of these asshats maybe then they'll learn


Try reading :2 cents:

vidvicious 05-29-2006 12:22 PM

very interesting thread . Ihahaha232;m with Paul and Aaron on this one .. If it says not for resale on the release .. I would see as the modle wasnt comfortable with multipule sites displaying her image ...

I have release that write (hand written) Not for resale or Exclusive for xxx.com Only .. etc ..

Those Pics or videos are NEver to sold Period .. Be true to the original agreement with the model or producer .. Just because someone has sold the not for sale content .. still doesnt give you the right to keep selling it

czarina 05-29-2006 12:23 PM

I smell drama!

sex69 05-29-2006 12:41 PM

Now the drama has gone

wonderman 05-29-2006 02:05 PM

Yes GFY loves drama and that is all this is. There are a few assholes on this board that talk so much shit. Paul is one of them another is Aron M. Both of them have been saying the same thing for more than 5 years. 5 years these clowns have been saying the same shit and those of us in this business know that is how SoBeGirl's pathetic compeitition tries to prevent webmasters from doing business with SoBeGirl and / or it's affiliates. Look at what SoBeGirl has to offer. More than 500 shoots to choose from. Over 15 different producers are represented in this fantastic collection. We take credit card orders. A SoBeGirl customer can return or exchange any video set he or she buys without any questions. WE KICK OUR COMPEITIONS ASS IN QUALITY, VARIETY, SELECTION AND SERVICE. We have been doing this for more than 6 years and that is why the competition lies and lies. Now I am going to warm that usless tit called Aron M. If you continue to slander you will be sued. You have been warned now Fat Boy. You want to play with me?


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