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stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:35 PM

What do you do when a client fails to pay?
 
So what do you do say if someone fails to pay a 3,000.00 bill, then you see a chargeback for 600.00 come through your account? Small claims court? Any lawyers here on Gfy? :Oh crap

Pleasurepays 05-19-2006 11:38 PM

was it a tangible product that he purchased? service? software?

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:39 PM

Webdesign, and consultation. Restructuring of an entire business. 30 days worth of work. 3000.00 was the remaining charge after a deposit.

gooddomains 05-19-2006 11:40 PM

pick up he phone and call a lawyer

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains
pick up he phone and call a lawyer

Ive done that, but I wont talk to them till Monday, and wasnt that upset about it, till I saw this chargeback tonight. :mad:

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:42 PM

Right now I am sending out 4 registered letters with attached invoices. 1 to each of the investors in the company, and one to their attorney. Has anyone else been in this situation before? And if so what did you do?

Paul Markham 05-19-2006 11:43 PM

Have they used the work you did?

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Have they used the work you did?

Yes currently there and being used. Im not naming names yet though. No one here on the boards.

Sure someone will figure it out. :winkwink:

Shocking 05-19-2006 11:45 PM

in Panama we make some friends pay him a visit and not with flowers :pimp

pr0 05-19-2006 11:45 PM

If its over $500...i think you can bypass small claims court & go straight to reg.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3848/itspat3xc.jpg

Don't take it personally...remember, i'm a conspiracy nut & quite possibly mad :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocking
in Panama we make some friends pay him a visit and not with flowers :pimp

As much as I love that method, imma keep it legal. :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
If its over $500...i think you can bypass small claims court & go straight to reg.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3848/itspat3xc.jpg

Don't take it personally...remember, i'm a conspiracy nut & quite possibly mad :winkwink:

Lol nice chop there. :winkwink: Well maybe my attorney will have more for me on Monday.
I may be wrong on this, but I think if I file here they have to show up, or have someone appointed to show up or they default.

Shocking 05-19-2006 11:49 PM

you can send your friends with the lawyer? one way or the other lol

pr0 05-19-2006 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Lol nice chop there. :winkwink: Well maybe my attorney will have more for me on Monday.
I may be wrong on this, but I think if I file here they have to show up, or have someone appointed to show up or they default.

only after they've been served the proper papers...but yup i think so

could always use a collection agency as well so long as all your documents are proper

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocking
you can send your friends with the lawyer? one way or the other lol

Well the person responsible is supposed to attend the San Diego, Las Vegas, and Florida shows. Ill be in Vegas and Florida. :winkwink:

madawgz 05-19-2006 11:51 PM

get in contact with a lawyer asap

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
only after they've been served the proper papers...but yup i think so

could always use a collection agency as well so long as all your documents are proper

Ya they would be served with papers. Im willing to pay all the fees and whatnot on this. I was going to let it go till they did the chargeback. That money they paid me, then charged back, was for traffic I purchased and have reciepts for, so its not even money that went into my pocket. :Oh crap

stickyfingerz 05-19-2006 11:54 PM

Btw.. Thats Pat. :winkwink:

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre.../05/z00728.jpg

Shocking 05-19-2006 11:57 PM

ihahaha180;ll be in florida too. give a percentage and i will go with my boys there lol

darksoul 05-19-2006 11:59 PM

well, have you talked with him ?
whats his excuse ?

SmutGiant 05-19-2006 11:59 PM

How long has it been since the requested due date?

Pleasurepays 05-20-2006 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Right now I am sending out 4 registered letters with attached invoices. 1 to each of the investors in the company, and one to their attorney. Has anyone else been in this situation before? And if so what did you do?

it really depends on the facts, the paper trail and what can be proven and whether or not your claims can be effectively disputed. if he has an argument, then you might lose more money than you are trying to recover.

trying to fight the chargeback is usually pointless as well. his bank has to reverse it or he has to call his bank and ask them to reverse it. either way, its him and the bank (of which he is a client) against you.

without knowing the facts... it would seem to me that you feel you delivered what you promised and they are prepared to argue that you didn't. don't get emotional and caught up in trying to win or better them. be rational... its about money... nothing else. if its going to cost you financial and emotional hardship to keep going and possibly recover nothing, then you need to ask yourself if its worth it.

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 12:04 AM

They basically just halted communication. Ive now sent two invoices by email. I was prepared to give lots of time till the chargeback.

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
it really depends on the facts, the paper trail and what can be proven and whether or not your claims can be effectively disputed. if he has an argument, then you might lose more money than you are trying to recover.

trying to fight the chargeback is usually pointless as well. his bank has to reverse it or he has to call his bank and ask them to reverse it. either way, its him and the bank (of which he is a client) against you.

without knowing the facts... it would seem to me that you feel you delivered what you promised and they are prepared to argue that you didn't. don't get emotional and caught up in trying to win or better them. be rational... its about money... nothing else. if its going to cost you financial and emotional hardship to keep going and possibly recover nothing, then you need to ask yourself if its worth it.


Thats pretty much what I was thinking till this chargeback. Marked it off as a lesson learned. Now its gone a bit beyond that. :Oh crap I can freeze that account to stop the chargeback. Im already prepared to do that. Its my extra account I use only for business stuff.

Pleasurepays 05-20-2006 01:01 AM

Quote:

They basically just halted communication. Ive now sent two invoices by email. I was prepared to give lots of time till the chargeback.
... what is their incentive to respond to someone who is not in a position to make realistic threats? of course they don't reply. there is no reason to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Thats pretty much what I was thinking till this chargeback. Marked it off as a lesson learned. Now its gone a bit beyond that. :Oh crap I can freeze that account to stop the chargeback. Im already prepared to do that. Its my extra account I use only for business stuff.


if he called his bank and charged it back... its over. what do you mean "freeze that account"? its his bank that issues the chargeback... its their credit card. its their client. its 100% out of your control.

if the transaction was for traffic, then i don't think you are going to get it reversed. he can just say he did not get what he thought he was getting and thats the end of it. i seriously doubt he called his bank and said someone used his card without his authorization... he gave a reason why he did not want to pay. that puts the ball back in your court and basically, you stand little chance of changing it. you have to find out the reason for the chargeback. if he lied saying his card was stolen/used without his authorization... then i would say you have a chance. if he said he did not get what he thought he was buying (i forgot the terms and codes - its been a while) - then you can't argue something that abstract with a bank that has no real reason to take your side against their own client.

from what i have seen so far, i would say that the best advice for you is to just walk away and consider it a lesson learned.

CuriousToyBoy 05-20-2006 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Well the person responsible is supposed to attend the San Diego, Las Vegas, and Florida shows. Ill be in Vegas and Florida. :winkwink:

I'll be in San Diego Ryan, give me the heads up and I'll readjust some attitudes.

Happy to do that for any friend, anytime.

:thumbsup

L-Pink 05-20-2006 01:08 AM

How much time passed on the charge-back?

2HousePlague 05-20-2006 01:09 AM

All your business threads are belong to GHEY.



2hp

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
... what is their incentive to respond to someone who is not in a position to make realistic threats? of course they don't reply. there is no reason to.




if he called his bank and charged it back... its over. what do you mean "freeze that account"? its his bank that issues the chargeback... its their credit card. its their client. its 100% out of your control.

if the transaction was for traffic, then i don't think you are going to get it reversed. he can just say he did not get what he thought he was getting and thats the end of it. i seriously doubt he called his bank and said someone used his card without his authorization... he gave a reason why he did not want to pay. that puts the ball back in your court and basically, you stand little chance of changing it. you have to find out the reason for the chargeback. if he lied saying his card was stolen/used without his authorization... then i would say you have a chance. if he said he did not get what he thought he was buying (i forgot the terms and codes - its been a while) - then you can't argue something that abstract with a bank that has no real reason to take your side against their own client.

from what i have seen so far, i would say that the best advice for you is to just walk away and consider it a lesson learned.

On the chargeback he paid me via Amex to my paypal. The account that is associated with that is the one I can freeze so they cant pull money back off me. I only had about 18.00 in the paypal when they did the chargeback. I dont keep it in there just for that reason. :winkwink: Paypal tends to do this stuff at will with or without a chargeback.

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy
I'll be in San Diego Ryan, give me the heads up and I'll readjust some attitudes.

Happy to do that for any friend, anytime.

:thumbsup

Ill discuss it with you further. :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
How much time passed on the charge-back?

It only just appeared tonight. Like sometime after 6pm central time.

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
... what is their incentive to respond to someone who is not in a position to make realistic threats? of course they don't reply. there is no reason to.




if he called his bank and charged it back... its over. what do you mean "freeze that account"? its his bank that issues the chargeback... its their credit card. its their client. its 100% out of your control.

if the transaction was for traffic, then i don't think you are going to get it reversed. he can just say he did not get what he thought he was getting and thats the end of it. i seriously doubt he called his bank and said someone used his card without his authorization... he gave a reason why he did not want to pay. that puts the ball back in your court and basically, you stand little chance of changing it. you have to find out the reason for the chargeback. if he lied saying his card was stolen/used without his authorization... then i would say you have a chance. if he said he did not get what he thought he was buying (i forgot the terms and codes - its been a while) - then you can't argue something that abstract with a bank that has no real reason to take your side against their own client.

from what i have seen so far, i would say that the best advice for you is to just walk away and consider it a lesson learned.

On the authorization part, that is actually what it says not authorized. That it wasnt authorized. Fortunetly I have a printed out PO# and an invoice for the work order amount. I also have the reciept from where I bought the traffic for them. They wanted traffic so they dumped money in my account to purchase it from whatever sources I needed to. In all I spent about 1300.00 on traffic.

Well 3:15am here so im off for a nap. Thanks to all those that gave advice, and Ill check back on this in the AM.

L-Pink 05-20-2006 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
It only just appeared tonight. Like sometime after 6pm central time.

From the service or receipt of goods, from the date of billing .... to the date they charged back.

10 days, 30, 45, etc .......

Choppa 05-20-2006 01:21 AM

yeah its never good, i have one computer company that owes me $7000 AUD
for laptops, and the owner of the business had a mental breakdown and was hospitalised several days after the sale....two years later on and lord only knows how much interst as well ( I have written it off on my tax). Maybe we can ring up Tony Soprano and get the job done on both counts :thumbsup :thumbsup

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
From the service or receipt of goods, from the date of billing .... to the date they charged back.

10 days, 30, 45, etc .......

oh april 28th. Was orig charge. so 20 days or so.

stickyfingerz 05-20-2006 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choppa
yeah its never good, i have one computer company that owes me $7000 AUD
for laptops, and the owner of the business had a mental breakdown and was hospitalised several days after the sale....two years later on and lord only knows how much interst as well ( I have written it off on my tax). Maybe we can ring up Tony Soprano and get the job done on both counts :thumbsup :thumbsup

:winkwink: :winkwink: :thumbsup

L-Pink 05-20-2006 01:34 AM

I'll give you an answer tomorrow, went thru something very similar .....

Goodnight ...... Lee

RayBonga 05-20-2006 03:39 AM

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What do you do when a client fails to pay?

I call my pimp.

That's what I pay him for, right?

u-Bob 05-20-2006 03:44 AM

send over some albanians... you know, those guys with the ballcutters... :)

germ 05-20-2006 10:34 AM

find out where his mother lives.

inform him of your knowledge of said information.

GreyWolf 09-13-2007 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 9945932)
So what do you do say if someone fails to pay a 3,000.00 bill, then you see a chargeback for 600.00 come through your account? Small claims court? Any lawyers here on Gfy? :Oh crap

Na... forget the legal crap. Just get him to buy you a camera :pimp

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-14-2007 01:06 AM

That sucks when people lie and steal from you - I hope you get what you deserve... :thumbsup

ADG

gooddomains 09-14-2007 01:24 AM

kick his ass

Violetta 09-14-2007 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyWolf (Post 13085037)
Na... forget the legal crap. Just get him to buy you a camera :pimp

n ice bump!

hjnet 09-14-2007 03:56 AM

1. Registered Letters
2. Collection Agency (and add ~20-30% for your expenses, time, etc. as "collection fee" or whatever)
3. Lawyer, but that doesn't pay off most of the time for that amount, especially if 1&2 didn't work.

And be prepared to wait for your money for a long time, i.e. 1-2 years :)

swampthing 09-14-2007 06:02 AM

ask the gfy for advice on what to do when a client fails to pay.

swampthing 09-14-2007 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 9945967)
If its over $500...i think you can bypass small claims court & go straight to reg.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3848/itspat3xc.jpg

Don't take it personally...remember, i'm a conspiracy nut & quite possibly mad :winkwink:


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directfiesta 09-14-2007 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 9945967)
If its over $500...i think you can bypass small claims court & go straight to reg.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3848/itspat3xc.jpg

always had that look-alike thing with tweety bird's mate:

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