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jjjay 05-14-2006 11:07 AM

Is the end near for the US Dollar?
 
It's lost 7% against most other major currencies since the start of April.

And this is having the knock on effect of dragging down stock markets.

And on top of this all, stock markets have a habit of tumbling after a new Fed chairman takes over.

Is it all over for the US Dollar with the Euro becoming one of the world's major reserve currencies?

jjjay 05-14-2006 11:13 AM

well I'm sorry, is this too serious for a sunday thread?

let me start a new one about shakira's tits...

Yngwie 05-14-2006 11:22 AM

well, all I know is it's not looking good for the US dollar.

NoWhErE 05-14-2006 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjay
well I'm sorry, is this too serious for a sunday thread?

let me start a new one about shakira's tits...


Its not that its to serious, is that there are 20 other threads exactly like this...

Yngwie 05-14-2006 11:23 AM

I just do not want it to go below the Canadian dollar. That will make my earning take a shit kicking.

Pornwolf 05-14-2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie
I just do not want it to go below the Canadian dollar. That will make my earning take a shit kicking.

Sorry, that's about 2 months away from happening.

TheBuyer 05-14-2006 12:07 PM

Government is spending their way to hell. And they will bring down the greenback with them.

RayBonga 05-14-2006 12:09 PM

But Iraq is now a Democarcy (at least until civil war starts).

And that's priceless :thumbsup

Michael O 05-14-2006 12:49 PM

US$ against Danish Kroner while I've been working online.
It hurts and I want it back to 7-8 kroner for each US$

Rolo 05-14-2006 02:16 PM

I´m not sure european exporting companies could take a 10-20% drop in the USD value over the next 1-5 years, which is what some currency forecasters have predicted.

So question will be what will the EU and others do, when the USD looses too much too fast (high oil price, and US deficit will not go away in the near future).

Now let GFY return to the meaningless surfmaster jabber - you are interrupting their thought flow with your worthwhile thread :)

pstation 05-14-2006 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjay
well I'm sorry, is this too serious for a sunday thread?

let me start a new one about shakira's tits...

still waiting for that thread about shakira's tits :pimp

RogerV7 05-14-2006 02:30 PM

we have the euro and that sucks big time. i have to earn more usd to have the same life style as i had

Kimo 05-14-2006 02:30 PM

buy gold

jimthefeind 05-14-2006 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjay
well I'm sorry, is this too serious for a sunday thread?

let me start a new one about shakira's tits...


Yes, you are an idiot.

I think everyone hates you and your stupid threads. Some people respond to your thread because the feel sorry for you.

Try posting threads that aren't hated by most GFY members you jackass.

soulboy 05-14-2006 08:44 PM

currency always variates but i really doubt that this will be the end of the US$. This has some benefits also, for example a depreciation of the US currency incentives the export of US goods to other markets (Europe, Asia, etc...).

Rebecca Love 05-14-2006 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimo
buy gold

indeed...:2 cents:

fetishblog 05-14-2006 09:04 PM

It's dragging down the stock market? The NYSE closed at almost record levels all of last week. Not to mention our trade deficit is DOWN for the 2nd month in a row. Our economy is solid. :)

Webby 05-14-2006 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulboy
currency always variates but i really doubt that this will be the end of the US$. This has some benefits also, for example a depreciation of the US currency incentives the export of US goods to other markets (Europe, Asia, etc...).

Mmm.. the problem is despite export incentives that is not happening and not likely to happen on any significant scale. The US has two, unfortunately these are the only two, commodities which produce a trade surplus - wheat and arms.

There is prob some chance of increased trading with the EU, but very little in trading with the much larger Asian market.

At the moment US imports are simply not sustainable - it's like permanently living off credit cards. The US very badly needs a sound and competitive manufacturing base and it will take many decades to ever come close to having an overall trading surplus - and smell it's prob too late to be starting this now.

dready 05-14-2006 09:20 PM

Countries will have to start buying and selling oil in Euros before it can take over as the major reserve currency.

madawgz 05-14-2006 09:21 PM

the us dollar wont go up until bush pays his debts...

Webby 05-14-2006 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishblog
It's dragging down the stock market? The NYSE closed at almost record levels all of last week. Not to mention our trade deficit is DOWN for the 2nd month in a row. Our economy is solid. :)

DUH?? :winkwink:

You checked the last time the US actually had a trading surplus? I'd need to check, but think it was in the 1960's. The overall trade deficit has increased around 3.5 times since 1990.

A couple of days on the NYSE has nada meaning - let's see a year of decreasing trade deficits and there may be something in that trend.

Don't even dream that "our ecomomy is solid" - that's like the CEO trying to create confidence the day before the company files for bankruptcy :pimp

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 09:26 PM

Outsourcing rules!

minusonebit 05-14-2006 09:35 PM

This is worth more than the US Dollar:

http://www.frbsf.org/currency/civilw...rate/s63fr.jpg

mattz 05-14-2006 09:36 PM

its all over

swingingina 05-14-2006 09:42 PM

the effect is felt harder for those who have less...

jjjay 05-15-2006 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolo
I´m not sure european exporting companies could take a 10-20% drop in the USD value over the next 1-5 years, which is what some currency forecasters have predicted.

So question will be what will the EU and others do, when the USD looses too much too fast (high oil price, and US deficit will not go away in the near future).

Now let GFY return to the meaningless surfmaster jabber - you are interrupting their thought flow with your worthwhile thread :)

yup. I know this has been talked about for ages, but looking at the headlines (in serious papers) over the last few days, it appears to be happening NOW.

For example - it looks VERY likely that it will be 1 GBP = 2 USD which hasn't happened for over 20 years

plus the chinese currency is going up in value against the USD which is very serious, plus chinese interest rates are going up

and on top of this stock markets have dropped pretty sharply over the last few days

basically, what doom mongerers have been talking about for years seems to be happening right now

how far this "correction" goes, we'll have to see...

jjjay 05-15-2006 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefeind
Yes, you are an idiot.

I think everyone hates you and your stupid threads. Some people respond to your thread because the feel sorry for you.

Try posting threads that aren't hated by most GFY members you jackass.

well, I'm not the one pretending to be jimthefiend :1orglaugh

dodger21 05-15-2006 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjay

let me start a new one about shakira's tits...


Well???????????

Dollarmansteve 05-15-2006 08:30 AM

All I have to say on the subject is this. The largest economic power on the planet does not allow its currency to devaluate on the global market unless it is by design. If the powers that be wanted to prop-up the dollar, they would do so.

The current account deficit that the US has been running for the past several decades is unsustainable - and the 'strong dollar' policy is no longer a prudent one. I can assure you that the foreign debt load now held is at a critical level and the US economy cannot afford to borrow from the rest of the world for any longer. A weaker US currency is vital to closing the trade gap.

Dollarmansteve 05-15-2006 08:33 AM

Can I also point out that those most directly affected by a weaker US dollar are the ones holding it. When the US runs current account deficits it means that there is a net outflow of currency - in simple terms, US dollars are used to buy the currecy needed in trade - and the exporting country holds the US currency. I believe that China has the largest foreign reserve of US cash on the planet - every tick that the US dollar goes down costs the Chinese central bank tens of millions of dollars in value.

Basic_man 05-15-2006 08:34 AM

Canadian dollar is going strong agains USD... that's not good for me :(

MaddCaz 05-15-2006 08:35 AM

I highly doubt it, yo

TheLegacy 05-15-2006 08:38 AM

the american dollar is exactly where Bush wants it to be - sad for us canadians who enjoy a stronger american dollar, but this wont last forever.

Quagmire 05-15-2006 08:49 AM

I miss the days of getting a $1.40+ for a USD.. getting $1.08 is horrible. Its like actually working for a living now.

jjjay 05-15-2006 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve
Can I also point out that those most directly affected by a weaker US dollar are the ones holding it. When the US runs current account deficits it means that there is a net outflow of currency - in simple terms, US dollars are used to buy the currecy needed in trade - and the exporting country holds the US currency. I believe that China has the largest foreign reserve of US cash on the planet - every tick that the US dollar goes down costs the Chinese central bank tens of millions of dollars in value.

thanks for the detailed answers

I'm genuinly worried - when the headlines at ft.com start spelling doom, you know something's up

might be time to start doing a lot more local biz in my own currency to hedge the risk

ajrocks 05-15-2006 09:45 AM

The US dollar is so devalued because of debit and the fact that they are printing money likes its going out of style. It will be on par with the Canadian dollar within 6 months. FAK ME! Time to start saving in Euros!


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