So I'm doing research and joining sites, guess which processor denied and banned me?
 

I'm doing some research and decided to join a bunch of paysites. My credit card has never been used in adult before. Fresh. Should work everywhere.

I try Dhd Media. Successful
I try Paycom. Successful
I try Netbilling. Successful
I try Ccbill. DENIED! Not only denied i tried entering in my information twice and now it says Banned Ip and Too Many entries today.

ARGH. Figures sales are crap today. :(

Try Ibill.

did you do all those joins in a few hours?

this explains alot....my sales have been extremly inconsistant over the last few weeks

yeah, could be a case of 4 processors too fast and your bank declining it because they suspect fraud?

Maybe the scrub is high on the site you tried for that one?

Ccbill was the first i tried and they denied me before i joined any of the others.

i'm getting a vivbe that shap does NOT like ccbill.

could be wrong though

ew......:Oh crap

I use ccbill. I rely on ccbill. I like ccbill. I'm just bummed at what happened today. They know. I've emailed them.

If every other processor blocked me I'd think ok my cc isn't going thru.
Instead ccbill denied me first then the others accepted me. Not one other processor denied me. I joined 4 dhd sites in 10 minutes and they all went thru. It's starting to make me think I'm losing alot of money.

so much for that idea :1orglaugh

I turned off denial emails off awhile ago..I don't even want to know when it happens anymore.

try "intellabroke"

:1orglaugh

:Oh crap Sorry to hear about that Shap - scarry shit huh???

Maybe you didn't have enough funds?

Okay on a serious note. This sucks indeed. I'm curious what the decline reason was/is. A few guesses

1. Still a few active memberships to paysites
2. CC from country A while buying it from country B?

I hope they give you the decline reason. I'm very curious myself

Andre

YARGH! It could be possible that a shared db was used, and all the previous charges you did raised some red flags.

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I hear this from a lot of people, always fun when they are potential customers. :)

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Interesting stuff...

Egomancer

Shap, there is a very good reason that you were denied, and just by knowing a bit about you, i guessed what the reason was before i even checked/confirmed it

come on then corvette, spill the beans :)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

hmmm

and i use more ccbill sponcers then anything else :(

I see the denials and CCBILL bounce them to the other billing companies. Chances are if CCBILL turn them down the rest do.

Never worry about the ones that slip pass the net.

So what was it?

Btw i knew making this post wasn't the smartest thing to do. There are always reasons for declines and reasons for sales being off. I think one thing that processors (and their employees and reps) completely fail to realize is the thought process of us Paysite Owners and the affiliates that promote them. The majority of us have never worked for a processor and never had the privilege of seeing exactly how a processor works. That being said a lot of what is said is pure speculation. Without any knowledge of how their backend works and without ever hearing anything but everything is ok all we have to go by is our stats and experiences.

- When stats drops by 30% in one day for no reason logic tells me something is not right.
- When stats drop 30% on the exact same date (not day of the week but actual date of the month) as last month logic tells me something is not right.
- When my credit card that works everywhere else is declined that tells me something is not right.
- When other reputable webmasters complain about unexplainable drops in sales that gets me wondering.
- When other reputable webmasters report their credit card was denied that gets me wondering.

Starting this thread wasn't the smartest thing. However ccbill has to know people are talking and questioning wtf is going on. Last month I got more emails from fellow ccbill paysite owners asking if my sales were down than ever before. I love ccbill. I like their risk averse style. It makes me feel comfortable about their future and the future of my money with them. With our $$$ on the line it sometiems is very frustrating and tough to stay quiet. Especially when you have a mouth like mine.

care to share the reason with the rest of the class ?

Just talked to Corvette. I jumped the gun and messed up on something. Bad sales ratios always mess with my head.

All processors seem to use different blocked lists. I can't even join my own sites at Wildcash.com via Paycom (blocked Australia) but we cascade to CCbill and CCbill allow Australian credit cards and we can signup no worries.

Shap also my card was declined by ccbill 3 times in the past 2 weeks on my own sites really odd if you ask me...

but happily i have another processor to flip to when this happens and it seems its been happening ALOT with ccbill lately

It had something to do with me more than them, that's why he didn't share the info :thumbsup

Soooo... porblem solved?

Surprising thing is most sites i tried to join were ccbill only. It screwed my research LOL. I swear if I ever needed a job I'd do paysite consulting. I know about 10 sites (from today's experience) that I could go in and increase their revenue 5 to 10% within 2 weeks LOL.

Def NOT the only sponsor that this is happening to.

Yes :thumbsup

icq me the details and we will check the reason out and get back to you

45471840

Shap i do give you balls for making post like this.. Hopefully you achieve something out of it other then stress..

If you notice a proccessor tightening up the scrub flip over to another. thats the only thing you can really do.

Some tighten up more in the beginning of the month and others at the end of the month

Shap, they have pictures of you at most borders.

So it's no surprise to me that CCBill has a picture of you too.

Good to see some drama handled for once on the boards!!!

:thumbsup :1orglaugh :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Any clues as to what the hold up was in case others are experiencing similar?

This thread isn't fun :(

shap,

i did the exact same thing with paycom the other day. i got to number crunching and nothing was making sense. i called up rand and got all bent out of shape. spent some time on the phone with him, isolated the issue, and felt like a goof. i know you are an o.g. at the processing thing, but it is one of the very few things i haven't had complete learning experience with since i started in 99, so i am a noob at it. in the end, it was the bad ratios that set me off. problem was addressed and things are nice. big thanks to rand for being a great guy and taking the time to show me the things that i was cloudy. i'm sure your experience or issue wasn't what mine was, but this post just made me think of my day yesterday.

airek

well seems whatever the problem was is ok now

Thanks corvett for looking into this for me

different cc address than the location? :)

For some reason I've always had problems ordering via ccbill as well. Like Webmaster Access badge registration is through ccbill and both times I registered, I timed out (didn't get denied, but timed out each time). Its an odd problem but I hope I'm the only one experiencing it.
WG

So whats this "Goof", or "Explaination"?

A little insider secret when the scrub is up and down during the month?
So far thats my best guess.

Paycom rules ALL processing, period.

You're gay and can only join gay sites?

What the... are you saying that Paycom deny all transactions originating from Australia?

Have you looked into your own merchant account? Not like you need certain features to bleed the surfers to death