What do women do with their new "freedom"? Fukalot
 

:) Not to be a schovinist, but, all these movements where women need more liberty only caused:

- drop in natality in Western Countries (western europe for example is slowly being taken over by muslims because they multiply like rabbits)
- Pusification of men, again, men with homosexual tendencies that would otherwise be living a straight live now are fully blown gays (again, drop in natality)
- Undermining the institution of marriage
- Increase in promiscuity

I don't see women fighting for top government positions or becoming a better mothers etc. So called democracy and freedom will cause demise for USA/Europe on account on China and the muslim countries which will take over in 2-3 decades because they keep pushing traditional values and even their social evolution is controlled so it doesn't turn into some sort of sexual revolution and total colaps which start 1960's in USA/Europe.

Honest exceptions tho, I'm from a European country but I don't approve the new trends. All I see is stupid bitches spending on all their money for clothing, excersising, controlled diets etc just so they can satisfy their egos and vanity, fuck more and after this cycle ends to prolly find a rich guy and live off the interest.

Women are more exploited now than ever, they don't even realize it.

Flame away :)

i've felt the same way for a while too

Increase in promiscuity? Well let me tell you, since the beginning of time MEN have been promiscuous, why the double standards? Back if the days if there were no "proper" women available for care-free sex, the men would visit prostitutes or women of less status who needed money for their sexual needs. And once they got married, many had mistresses on the side. So why is ok for a MAN to be promiscous and not so for a woman?

You are stating that since the woman's movement there has been an increase in promiscuity. Men have always been promiscous, so therefore you must be implying about FEMALE promiscuity. So them why would it be ok for a male to be promiscuous but not for a female?

And as regarding women spending their money on "clothing, excersising, controlled diets etc just so they can satisfy their egos and vanity", let me tell you the male equivalent of his is EXPENSIVE CARS AND HOOKERS!

Don't tell me women waste money on shallow things while men do the same; buying luxury cars just so they can satisfy their "manhood" and their vanity as well, since this is a way they "compete" with their fellow males. And a lot of men cheat on their wives and fuck hookers, this in a way also satisfies their egos and vanity because men like to feel that they "still have it" when it comes to gaining attention from other women.

Please, I don't need to marry a rich man. I own my own business and make of six figures a year.

Most MEN also don't fight for top government positions or aim to be better fathers either. The majority of PEOPLE in general just want to make a good living and don't have it as their top priority to be some world leader. So why is it the woman's responsibility do these things you stated?

Women are only beginning to make strides in politics, how can we be on the same level as men when they have had a few hundred years head start?

Men are superficial and spend their money on superficial clothing and accessories too... Ever read Bdjuf's threads?

There are many men who also buy designer jeans, sunglasses, Armani suits, Rolex watches and god knows what else... How is this not also excessive consumption?

A lot of PEOPLE in general enjoy luxury good and the finer things in life, not just women. Your agument and statements make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Oh, I touched someone's nerve there.
Honest exceptions always exist. But even my GF agrees with me.

She is on an Euro trip. The girl she's with, uses the 17 day trip to spend shitload of money on clothes and party around until the morning fucking and shit. My GF cant stand the bitch, hardly waits to come back home..

That is a personal case of two people disliking each other and has nothing to do with woman's rights.

Well, there are men who like to go on sex trips and travel all the world fucking different whores in third world countries... How is that any different?

It appears you just don't like promiscuous people in general and that's fine. I'm personally not promiscuous but I certainly try not to judge others.

So how do you feel about all the promiscuous men out there who are partying for days and fucking around? Or don't tell me there's some "double standard" that I am not aware of.

double standards blah blah blah. to be a "double standard" one must accept that both sexes are equal and indistinguishable in their roles and behaviors in social groups and relationships. hate to break it to you... women are the weaker sex. men hunt and kill, impregnate women and open the mayonaise jars. women to be faithful, have babies and cook the wooly mammoth meat. end of story. each are designed for a purpose which is the result of 10 million plus years of evolution.

humans are just simple baboons blessed with the ability for reason and cognative thought. the only advantage of which has been to convince ourselves that we are not simple baboons. how men and women and any other species on the planet interact with each other is the product of millions of years of evolution all centered on two fundamental principles... safety/survival and procreation. our behaviors are all centered around that purpose just as any other animals ... even the simplest of bacteria.

fuck with that, change the dynamics and chaos ensues. shouldn't be a huge suprise.

This is so retarded I don't even know where to start.

Well yes, of course a few thousand years ago men were the hunter and gatherers and women more the caretakers, but as society has EVOLVED so have the roles. As you said, we are capable of cognitive thought and reason, and thus it should not be so difficult to REASON that in today's society it's not all about hunting and gathering (literally) any more since we've got those bases covered.

Today a lot women are able to do the same jobs men do such as doctors, lawyers, politicians, and in some cases they do even a better job than the men do.

In todays world it is not necessary to have only BRAWN and strength to survive, but in order to make a good living it takes mainly BRAINS and ability.
It doesn't take strength to be the best "HUNTER" now, in order to be the best "hunter" in todays modern society it takes brains.

Your not a neanderthal living in some cave hunting a bear while posting on gfy are you?

why is there 'Fukalot' in the title..? If youre looking for her just go here :thumbsup

my point was simply that you can't expect to change the natural social order that has been established over millions of years for necessary reasons overnight without consequences.

the irony is that if you truly were so fucking bright and equal etc etc etc etc... you wouldn't be having this conversation at all. seems to me like you must have some doubts and insecurities... you will be relieved to know that its nothing that a little dish washing, food shopping, house cleaning affirmation will easily fix. now cook me some dinner!

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also... i am not saying that men are better than women... or that both are equal or anything like that. men and women are different. completely different beings. your arguements assume they are not. the two are not "equal" by any means.



now where's my dinner!?

I know men and women are different biologically, of course that is obvious.

That doesn't mean its acceptable for a man to fuck around and not for a woman too, or that there should be double standards. How do you know women are not as horny as men? Are you a woman? You don't know at all.

You just ASSUME that women are the fairer sex and should be pure and virginal while men are virile and supposed to throw their seeds around!

So if women are supposed to be "faithful" as you so claim, then who oh who are these WOMEN you are fucking to spread your seed around with??? If all women are supposed to be "faithful and pure", who are all these "dirty" women you are fucking around with?

Or don't tell me their are 2 classes of women, one whom you just fuck for fun and the other you marry. That wouldnt make sense, because according you, you claim ALL women should be "faithful".

lighten up woman and fix me my dinner!!

Ooooooh Cat's Got Your Tongue?!

Can't think of anything to say back to a girl? Don't tell me my arguments are so superior that you can't find anything witty to say and have to resort to little comments like "Make Me Dinner".

Well fuck you, open my mayonnaise jar and clean the house you bitch! I bring home the bacon around here!

also, i am not saying that all men are searching for an angel or anything in particular. i dont give testosterone and the dick that much credit. first and foremost, all men want to fuck. you might not have noticed with that attitude of yours, since they dont want to fuck you.


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i dont think i am better than you. i dont think women are equal to men. thats like saying soldiers ants and queen ants are the same and can do the same thing etc etc. they aren't. they can't and they don't. they are different. they both serve different functions and roles. they both exist to serve a purpose a variety of purposes... just as men and women do. sorry but 10,000,000 years of evolution backs me up on that.

btw being a bitter, man hating dyke (or "strong independent woman" as you might characterize yourself) doesn't make you right. it just means you need therapy.

No fucken shit all men want to fuck.

But you said that women should be "faithful" by nature. Obviously that's not the case since a lot of women cheat on their partners.

And I'm sure it's NOT something recent either, I am sure that hundreds and thousands of years ago women cheated as well but they just know to hide it better than you do.

Don't give me this bullshit about women biologically being more "faithful".

I'm not bitter. Being chauvinistic means YOU need therapy.

Anyways, I know we're not the same. So let me ask you , you don't feel that women should be in the workplace? But instead stay home and raise babies and cook?

And they have to remain faithful while the husband fucks around? Is this right?

i didnt say women should be faithful by nature. i said that they are expected to be. was true 1,000,000 years ago when you ancestors were fucking monkeys and its true today.

again.. you are arguing something i am not. can a woman work along side men in most cases??? of course. are men and women the same or "equal"? absolutely not. they are both very different beings.

you are extremely defensive on these issues. why not deal with the root of the problem and help prosecute the male relative that abused you? i didn't do it. get help.

Men are expected to be faitful today as well. Sadly for you things have changed a lot :1orglaugh

again, my little sexually abused, bitter and moronic twit... whats "expected" by society/social groups and what we are genetically programmed to be are two different things.

Sheesh, :)

Yes men should fuck around if they like. If a woman fucks around nobody will marry her, nobody likes to have slut for a wife. Nor a woman has to marry a guy that fucks around.

If lots of women fuck around, liberte etc, the natility drops, thus my point. And it's dropping, its a FACT in so called developed countries where there's social freedoms.

Men had the privilige to fuck around for ages and that didn't stop the evolution of the species in fields like: technology, art, social interaction etc.

Women abusing their libery now are causing chaos, along with their liberty there are other BS happening: Gay marriages, Lesbian Marriages, etc etc.

If the trend continues, modern world countries will die out and you will have to wear weil again, cook dinner and accept the fact that you will share your husbant legitimately with 4-5 other women (poligamy in the muslim culture)

So STF. Sex and the city, desperate housewives, etc etc. the so called portrait of modern women that have to explore their sexuality etc.

Fucking law and order is what's making CHINA the next Superpower.

Your the one who needs help. Your the male who sees women advancing and making more money than you do, and thus they can be pickier and that's making it harder for you to get laid.

Why don't YOU get to the root of the problem and deal with your masculine insecurities? You can always go to third world countries and fuck some hookers who will make you feel like "the man you think you are" for a few american dollars.

Good luck :)

Hello Phogirl.

I'm staying out of this one. Lots to argue about for hours.

Enjoy.

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You remember me. I'm flattered.

why do you think i care that women are advancing in society? or even have an opinion about it? everything you have said about me has been a wrong assumption based on your own mischaracterizations of everything i said.

again, your bitterness and insecurity and driving need to keep ranting about them both as a means to vent your frustration, has deprived you of any ability for rational thought.... but then again, it could just be PMS. between estrogen and sexual abuse, you have a tough road ahead.

I agree totally ... it was much better when stupid men spent THEIR money buying us clothing, exercising, diets etc to satisfy THEIR ego's and vanity.

Now we have to work for our own money.

fucking feminists!!!!!!! :mad:

What are the ideal specs for a modern day way, be it marriage or other arrangement for a social cell to be able to procreate, educate the offspring and provide means for the species to evolve?

What should the ideal men look like and do?
What should the ideal woman like and do?
What should they both do as a union how should they act united?

For centuries, the men was the provider the woman was the logistic, simple as that and it worked. Now, that ballance has been shattered with by-products such as:

- feminist zealots
- carrierist women
- metrosexual men
- outblown gay movement
- fukalot sex in the city twats

>>>What should the ideal men look like and do?

They should look like this:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/104027.jpg

And they should do the following:

- repair broken guttering
- clean pools
- change lightbulbs
- wash cars
- eat pussy

talk about stretching it ... women with more rights = more gays

funny

I agree, that has nothing to do with each other at all! There's probably more gays open cause society is less restrictive and there's less stigma of being gay today then there might have been a few hundred years ago.

he's going on assumptions based on myths that all gays just recently started to appear in droves.

Akira you and I come from the same area - Macedonia isn't that far from Bulgaria.

You are making assumptions here that obedient women, with no rights = negative child birth rate something which is happening both in your home and mine.

However that's not true, having the money to raise a child and the belief that your child has a future in your country is what drives the family to have more children.

Muslims have a lot of kids, the gypsies do too. But as you know the gypsies, most of them, live in poverty many times with 10 kids.

Our people on the other hand are used to not living in poverty, when you put that together with the fact that most don't have the money, don't harbor an optimistic view of the future of their country, you can find the reason why they don't want to have kids. Nowadays the young families want to have enough money to pay the bills and raise the children and dress them up nicely so they don't feel less than the neighbor who has more money.

What would people say? What would people think? ... if the kids aren't dressed certain way and so on

I don't know if you know anyone from Macedonia who moved to the US or Canada or another country where they make a good living - it's not uncommon for most of these people to have more than one child, a lot have two, and some have 3 and more because they have the confidence that tomorrow they'll be able to provide for them.

On gays - seems like you are one of those that thinks only recently after our area got a bit more free and westernised that guys started to turn to gays.

That's false - you are starting to see more guys NOT wanting to pretend they're straight so they are just themselves. They are gay.
Because nowadays it's not as bad to be gay as before.

Women have realised that men aren't their masters, that they can go and have a career and they are not obligated to work 8-to-5 then rush home to make dinner, wash the clothes, clean the house all the while their husband reads the newspaper or watches TV and doesn't do any chores besides taking the trash out because he's the man and men don't clean the house, or cook, or wash clothes. Women now know they don't need the man, they don't need the master to tell them what to do, if they can buy clothes, what clothes, if they can go out and so on.

In short, people have started to pursue their own happiness - they are looking for freedom they haven't had before

Good post Jigg :thumbsup

Good points jigg
:) digifan, long time no see :P you know I luv ya

Yes Jigg said it much better and more eloquently than I ever could, problem is that I rant and rave a lot, therefore I picked "Rants" as my second nick.

But I agree absolutely with everything he says.

Also in a lot of households here in the U.S, families are more financially secure due to two incomes in the house, so they can afford two cars, a better house, afford to send the kids to college and to have more kids.

Most women I know don't want to have kids until after they graduate college and are secure in their careers. Once they are steady and financially can afford it a lot do want kids, it's just a lot more "planning" these days and that's actually better. It's better to have less kids but be able to provide for them, than having 10 kids and being on welfare.

Women today don't have as much kids because they want to educate ourselves and make sure they can provide for the kids when they have them. It's better for all parties, and also good for kids to have a mom who can be sucessful at work too and not have to take a beating from the dad without being able to walk away. If you want to have 10 kids you better be sure you can feed and clothe all of them first.

And there were a lot of gays in the past, did you know that Leonardo Da Vinci was gay too? He lived in the 1400's or something, except it wasn't so acceptable back then.

It also does not make muslims or china stronger if they "breed more" like you say. I think this makes them weaker because it creates a country that has more hungry mouths that they can feed and they will depend on foreign aid!

Also if they have too many kids and can't afford to feed them it leads to even more civil unrest.

A muslim country in which everyone is content and has free healthcare does not breed extremists or discontent. For example, Qatar is a muslim country that is as rich as most western countries and since the people are content there (they have free health care, free water/electricity and no taxes) there aren't many extremists.

When you have muslim countries where there is a lot of poverty and huge gaps between rich and the poor, then people start getting crazy ideas and more likely to blow stuff up. Overbreeding leads to poverty and discontent.

People overbreeding leads to poverty and more social ills than "liberated women" ever could.

your logic is so bizarre and backwards. today there are more single parents than ever before in the history of the planet. divorce rates are higher than they ever have been and rates are still climbing in all of the western world.

the breakdown of families, family values and traditions have nothing to do with the womans intent of building a better family. it can be better argued that it is happening because a big, strong family no longer offers the advantages to survival that it once did. in poor countries they still do, hence stronger family values, stronger adherence to traditions, clearly defined roles and boundaries of the man and wife as well as basic rules of conduct.

And to have 10 kids when your living on the poverty leve is good HOW? How does this contribute to the country other than to cause more crime and problems?

Being a child is of a single-parent who can provide for you is a HECK of a lot better than having 10 brothers and sisters who are fighting for a morsel of food.

Just because traditional values are more important in poorer countries doesn't mean those countries are better to live in.

what the fuck is your problem? did your bad uncle touch you, leaving you emotionally scarred so bad that you are not only bitter, confused and mean but also can't read or comprehend?

i am not defending anything. i am not saying that Burma is better than Kansas. i am saying its all a natural part of what we are... it comes from 10,000,000 years of evolution and trial and error of what works best and what insures the best survival rate of genes. i am not talking about 2006 and all the reasons why you think 2006 is all fucked up. i am talking about how things came to be and why its a natural part of what we are and pointing out its where we came from.

now go make me a pot roast woman!

I was in hospital... I luv ya too :)

most women are fucking sluts,
complete and utter hoes, half the girls on here onl hang around guys who have money,

yes if you're haning out with a fat guy who you wouldnt of met if he had no money you are a fucking slut.

many many women are fucking stupid and annoying, you want to make money? market anything that involved being stupid to women, they are stupid and understand being stupid, although they wont admit it.

educated women agree that most women are stupid.

and i dont give a fuck about your arts or business degree, u may as well of flushed those years down the toilet because i still think you are a slut.

my girlfriend works for an oil company, is educated, smart, and doest sleep with anything that moves.

not to many women have morals anymore, they are to busy trying to find a fat ass to spend money on them.

if you dont agree with this or offended by this, it is because you're a slut.

educated, sweet women get all my respect in the world, fuck those magazine reading, celeb obsessing bitches, they are worthless.

props to all the real women out there, you're beautiful because you are smart. intelligence is key.

the rest of you are worthless.

Why oh why did I wander in here? Morbid curiosity, I suppose.

This is gonna be a fun thread.

If anything, this is increasing the number of lesbians. Which is a good thing, I say.

Hello, I'm just checking in for page 2.

Women should stay in the house barefoot to raise kids while men work and chase new pussy at will. That's the natural order of life.

I'm just fanning the flames, carry on.

women should have to wear small booties on their feet at all times, many many women have lound footsteps, and the last thing i want to hear when holding down home base is some kind of clunking around.

with these booties they would also be able to slide, and this would also probably help them be more effiecient in the kitchen, they could slide from station to station quickly.

also all women should have to carry a bell, and ring it everytime they are about to enter a room.

this way i can take my socks off and be ready for my foot massage much quicker, also increasing their efficiency.

You are certainly right on some points. Another interesting point is that you used to be able to raise a family of 5 on one income, with the introduction of women into the workforce the trend has gradually reached the stage where in order to have more than 1 child you both need to be in the workforce. In the end you are right though, either a) Islam will dominate Europe, or b) It will come to the point where shit seriously hits the fans because they represent such a large percentage of the population (even if it takes them to reach the majority in some nations before that happens). I don't this is all tied into women's freedom however, but I do think the general 'liberal' movement is very short sighted and very hypocritical (i.e. they whinge about protecting Africa's culture from Globalisation but can't wait to let their own slide down the drain).

Read this recent transcript from Libya's president:
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1121

dont know where he is seeing all this free spending...
statistic show that in the US
single women get paid on avergae 10-15% less for the same work/job then men do
and single mothers can make 30-44% less than single women with no kids

Rants i am happy for you making 6 figures!!!! :)
you broke thru the barrier
but for most american women
it is hard to make ends met
they are the new poverty class
made so by polticians that want family values but are not willing to support them where and when it counts!