Post up to ICANN about .XXX now!
 

some updated info at: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/xinfo.htm

the first open public posting (from 2004.. wow, time flies):
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/

highlights from back then:

Larry Walters , adult industry 1st amendment attorney, supports .XXX
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00003.html

Greg Dumas supports .XXX:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html

Parry Asftab who supports .XXX
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00038.html
While i share her mission to protect children, she misunderstands technology and her "facts" about the deceptive marketing are really out of date. her point is something is better than nothing

My post, which points out some interesting issues:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00053.html


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the message board where they post the recent email submissions (2006):
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

the email address to write in:
[email protected]

Companies taking a public stand against .XXX:
http://www.fightthedotxxx.com/

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Great interview by MJ with Stuart Lawley of ICM (part 1)
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=231312

Part 2
http://www.avnonline.com//index.php?...tent_ID=231419

see last paragraph:

last paragraph:

Are any supporters now backing away?
To date we have received over a thousand emails and letters of support from adult webmasters from all over the world.

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over a thousand adult wembasters emailing him!??!!?!?!?? yea right. how about 1,000 adult webmasters posting up on the ICANN board to make a stand??

ICANN does read the posts, and they are on public record. My original post back in 2004 was one of like 3 people to post up. More people need to post to make their opinions heard.

I'll be posting up shortly.



Fight the .$$$ !

sweet. going to spend time reading through all this.. great to have updates from you

fight the procrastination!!!!!!!!!!!!

post people!!!!!!!!

Walters supports it huh.

good seeing you

Who does he work for? Who does Joan of ASACP work for? Are they the same person--if not who are they?

Is the person behind Walters and Joan possibly be going to financially gain if .xxx is approved and we are damned?

SCARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have just heard a rumor that he is on retainer with the .XXX people . . . . of course, that is just a rumor. Right.

Dave Cummings sent me this email address:
[email protected]

Send to both to be sure.

Fight the double dip!

http://pornacre.com/images/images/13.gif

2hp

How anyone can use him when he supports this is beyond me ? I would rather rotten in jail then use him.

Who are the ".xxx people", and is there any connection between any of them and Joan of ASACP?

ICANN meets next week, and they might cut off the inclusion of postings to their site days earlier in order to process/tally/etc them, so we need EVERY influencial person (YOU) to email ICANN TODAY---and, we need ya's to influence others to do likewise today or tomorrow. PLEASE!!!!!!

Dave

If .XXX gets approved, then those that supported it can be thanked later.


The focus now is not on finger pointing within, but to fingerpoint to ICANN.. ICANN needs to see that the adult community does not want .XXX, to disprove what ICM was able to do in showing constituency (ie support) from adult biz.

People need to post up.. this really is your last chance to take a stand.

Fight the three fingers that point back at you!

maybe we should consider employing a reverse psychology platform. if everyone thinks we want .xxx it is less likely to happen.

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/603228-xxx-icann-looking-public-comments.html

and see post no 48 regarding .kids

anyone agrees with me on that, or does everyone think that when opposing .xxx you automatically need to express yor support for establishing .kids ?

Hi Brandon it was great to see you again at AdTech.

Got any opinions AGAINST .XXX? I am still on the fence.


B

no, you don't have to support .KIDS if you are against .XXX

The whole point of bringing up .KIDS is to offer atleast some alternate solution to what .XXX proposes as "protecting kids".

.KIDS is a white-listing method of filtering, that would 100% protect kids against any black-listing method

IFFOR.org (the organization that would see after best biz practices for .XXX) could take all that they have defined, and apply it to .KIDS


Fight the gray listing!

In the interests of saving our existence, I have no problem concentrating on the scuttling of .xxx as our entire near-term focus; then, later, the entire .kids thing can be examined more fully!?

yes, plenty, and the summary is .XXX = bad

http://www.fightthedotxxx.com has several links and issues about .XXX


Fight the .xxx!

it's been confirmed through a bounced email to the other ICANN email addy, use this one: [email protected]



Fight the bounce!

I don't think our posts would change something...

A number of voters in Florida felt likewise when bush jr got the Presidency because of them.

PLEASE, sending an email saying "I oppose .xxx" will take very little time, but might help a lot. Please???!!!!

Thanks,

Dave

Then please waste your time and make a post. If a large number of webmasters made their voices heard, it just might make a difference. When ICANN received tens of thousands of letters from religious groups against .XXX, they took notice.

By not having a public showing, it would concede the point that people must want .XXX, otherwise they would have posted... fight the false conclusions and make your thoughts known.

Fight the mouse that roared!

FYI: Any business or politician knows that for every letter, email, telephone call, there is a multiple that feels the same way.

Your attitude is the same as those that do not vote because they don't feel it does any good. Well, the lack of people voting is why Bush won the first time.

I used to be heavily involved in my union back in the day, and the attitude was "if the people are not speaking, they must be happy with how we are doing things." I can assure you that your politicians and ICANN feel the exact same way.

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

some lady there just posted this

lol... are she saying porn is killing people?
btw, "she" "the parent" sounds like knowing more about adult on internet than she try to avoid so hard. Gotta love fake nicks and propaganda that is too easy to spot :1orglaugh

heh sounds like a possibility :Oh crap

xxx larry.
that should be his new name.

duke

I wonder if she works for an attorney named Larry or one named Stuart, or someone who stands to make money by .xxx and our resulting demise.

I heard a rumor that sending our .com sites offshore won't protect us unless we physically relocate (and become citizens of that offshore country?).

YUK!

Dave

wow .......... amazing ........... I think

if this goes through, larry will really have some nice hair then....more so.

duke

Check out this one (see paragraph 4!) that just now showed up on ICANN, even though it was sent days ago and Mr Kernes DID confirm that he sent it!

Objections To .XXX TLD
To: <xxx-tld-agreement@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Objections To .XXX TLD
From: Mark Kernes <markkernes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:46:23 -0700

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To Whom It May Concern:

I am opposed to the establishment of a .xxx top-level domain for the
following reasons:

1) Although ICANN may not be aware of it, and I'm sure is not complicit in
any such plan, the establishment of such a domain is clearly the first step
in several pro-censorship groups' plans to remove sexual and sex-related
material from the Web. Establishing the domain may seem harmless, but there
is already a move in the U.S. Congress to call for such establishment, and
then make it mandatory for all sites dealing in sexual and sex-related
materials to give up their .com, .net, etc. sites and relocate in .xxx. (Of
course, such a law by the U.S. Congress would have no effect on any
webmaster located outside the U.S.) Once the U.S.-based sites have been
forced into .xxx, it would be a simple matter for the Congress to require
all U.S.-based ISPs to filter out .xxx sites, thereby denying access to the
material to millions of adults who would wish to see it -- all in violation
of their rights under the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment.

2) Leaving sexually explicit material aside, the above-planned ruling by the
U.S. Congress would undoubtedly sweep in many sites whose purpose is wholly
educational, scientific and even political, such as advice on
self-administered breast examinations, information on homosexuality, various
artistic works, etc. Sites containing photos of Michelangelo's David, for
instance, could easily be considered sexual and therefore blocked.

3) Attempting to exclude sexual material from the bulk of the Web is a bad
idea, especially since the proposed mandatory move to .xxx would affect only
U.S.-based sites. The more effective approach would be to establish a .kids
TLD, where webmasters who can certify that their material is completely safe
for minors can locate (or link to), and where parents can set their filters
to allow access only to .kids and .kids-approved sites, leaving the rest of
the Web free for adults to use as adults see fit.

4) It has been rumored that ICM Registry has already used its projected
ownership of .xxx to approach the owners of popular sexually-oriented .com
and .net URLs to offer them the same URL in .xxx at a premium price, with
the implication that if the .com URL owner refuses the deal, ICM will offer
that same URL to the .com's competitor. I'm sure ICANN would not want to be
party to such attempted extortion, if in fact such has occurred or is
planned to occur.

These are only some of the objections to the establishment of .xxx, and I
hope ICANN will take them seriously and refuse to authorize a .xxx TLD.


Mark Kernes, Sr. Ed., Adult Video News/AVN.com
9414 Eton Ave.
Chatsworth, CA
USA
818.718.5788.150
818.718.5799 (fax)

The Free Speach Coaalition should send an official letter to ICANN opposing .xxx once again

and perhaps also emails directly to the ICANN board members.

if im not mistaken, when .xxx was originally approved 1 year ago, it was like 7:3

now lets assume that the ICANN board members that were against .xxx are still against it, then those who were for .xxx should be convinced that they should change their mind ( either by us, by the religious groups, or by the US Government or the whole international public opinion )

if the free speech coalition is against it, how do they feel about a fellow first ammendment lawyer going against the very his job is based on--free speech.

If I were a senior partner in larrys firm, i would be asking him questions.. or unless they are in on it too..

Duke

post up your comments about .XXX by sending an email to: [email protected]

your post will be on public record via the ICANN website and will be reviewed by ICANN.


Fight the bump!

Larry Walters was xanx, or Chris Wilson, from nowthatsfuckedup.com's lawyer wasn't he?

walters is just another scumbag lawyer looking to line his pockets

If any of you hire that guy to do so much as make a phone call for you, then you are a traitor to this industry

just like he is
FUCK YOU LARRY, I know you cruise through here from time to time but not once habve you ever had the balls to answer my posts you spineless cocksucker

.XXX is a stupid idea that won't work I mean people can use country code domains or servers in other juristictions or who has to use http even
its a load of BS and the wankers that proposed it just want to get rich

if .XXX goes thru they better lock down and firewall the shit out of their servers because I know there will be some angry webmasters

I am happy to see that there are several new posts up on the ICANN board with statements against the .XXX tld, but I have to admit that I am appalled by what I am reading.

People, if you want to be taken seriously try writing in an intelligent manner. This would include, but not be limited to:

* Use spellcheck. You are a businessperson, try writing like one. Sloppy spelling might be acceptable on GFY, but if someone sent me a business letter with crappy spelling I would not even read it to the end.

* Do not use vulgarity. . . adding .com after GoFuckYourself does not make it intelligent. Again, someone sent me a business letter with vulgarity in it I would not even read it to the end.

You are trying to influence people, put your best foot forward.

Now for the offer. If you would like me to review your letter before you send it I will be happy to do so. You can post it here, or if you have my contact info, send it directly to me and I will check it out and send it back to you.

nice article, I agree with NOT allowing .xxx
I mean really, shit if ICANN wants to add .xxx they can, but leave .com's alone.

ICANN should really work on more important issues with domains. like IP's, trademarks and copyrights.

:)

bumppppppppppp

Baddog made a comment about making sure comments to ICANN are not poorly written or riddled with obscenities. I agree, but I wouldn't let it stop anyone from sending in a letter. You don't have to swear, but neither do you have to say much. They don't really care about your reasons anyway.

Just say that you oppose .XXX (If you do. If you don't, then just go play a video game.)

I think it is more important to list your company name, so that they can get an idea that real stakeholders are on record.

Oh, and of you have any infuence with any large companies in the industry, use it. Now. Please.

email your grammatically correct viewpoints on .XXX to:
[email protected]

ICANN will be meeting shortly to followup on their last session about .XXX

Two years ago, the public showing from the adult community was seriously lacking.. 2 years later, this .XXX thing is still going, and if the final hours expression of rejection for .XXX aren't put in, then if .XXX gets approved, you can't blame the people in adult who supported and wanted .XXX, you'll have to blame yourself for not standing up.


Fight the apathy!

For those of you bitching about Bush, did you take the time to go vote against him on 2000 (if you were even 18)? Same deal here.

If you don't write in you have no one to blame but yourself if this passes.

Feel free to cut and paste the following:

Dear Reader,

I am against the implementation of the .XXX tld.

Thank you for your consideration.

YOUR NAME
YOUR COMPANY NAME

The above will certainly work, but if they get alot of messages saying the same as a form letter, them may dismiss them all as just being a form, or a bot doing it.

Add your own personal comments to the template above.

Paysite programs could contact their affiliates to get involved and write their own thoughts.

You email your viewpoint on .XXX to: [email protected]

Both paysites and affiliates are affected by .XXX... .first thing will be your wallet, when you shell out $75/domain.. yes, think about how many domains you have.... and then think about the LAWS being proposed to make it mandatory.

The comments by some .XXX supporters that .kIDS is not a good idea, because it means others will have to pay for .KIDS, instead of making the "pornographers" who make more money, have to pay for .XXX

The ignorance in this thinking, is that .XXX would actually protect kids.. which it won't.. at all..... .KIDS would 100% protect kids.

So make your thoughts known.. contact your affiliates to get onboard.

email to: [email protected]

Fight the rabble-rousing!

Bump for a VERY important thread!

Please post to [email protected], where thus far only these postings have been made:-(. http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

Because some Florida voters didn't let their voices be heard, we've been stuck with "w" bush --please don't let your future go up in smoke just because you didn't post against .xxx.

Dave

If this goes down, it would be majorly stupid for anyone involved with .xxx to be anywhere in public. Thats why there are so many peopel behind it that are low pro; for that reason. If I were behind it, I would have 24/7 body gurads.
People get a little crazy when a select few all of a sudden control the livleyhood of the many.

Duke

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