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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 07:52 PM

Why pay for BLOG script?
 
Autoblogger Pro ($99.99)

WTF???

WordPress is totally free.
Convince me why the fuck I should spend 99 bucks for a bastard script that is nearly the same word for word.

http://wordpress.com

100% free. Dont be an idiot.
WordPress is awesome.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 07:53 PM

PS dont think the funny little sig whore thing is gonna convince me otherwise. I see the 120X60 banner in some sigs yet the link wider the 468X60.

Fucken scumbags.

AmateurFlix 04-30-2006 07:55 PM

AQ those programs are for two entirely different purposes. AB Pro is used for manipulating content feeds.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
AQ those programs are for two entirely different purposes. AB Pro is used for manipulating content feeds.

So folks pay 99 bucks to have content fluxed into thier blogs via what? RSS?? Seriously I dont get it.

AmateurFlix 04-30-2006 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
So folks pay 99 bucks to have content fluxed into thier blogs via what? RSS?? Seriously I dont get it.

nah there's a bunch of features besides that; it can be set to have certain keywords made into hyperlinks of your choosing automatically (so you can tell it to link every instance of the word 'babe' to a certain sponsor for instance) and a bunch of other stuff. Go scroll through their site, there's more.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
nah there's a bunch of features besides that; it can be set to have certain keywords made into hyperlinks of your choosing automatically (so you can tell it to link every instance of the word 'babe' to a certain sponsor for instance) and a bunch of other stuff. Go scroll through their site, there's more.

If someone wants a link Keyworded why not have them choose to link it themselves? Its really not that hard.

Is it worth 99 bucks?

FrameShifter 04-30-2006 08:04 PM

You should read the features list. www.autobloggerpro.com

crockett 04-30-2006 08:05 PM

The point is with worpress alone you have to manually update everything..

With something like auto blogger you can run a bunch of blogs with very little input or manual work.

AmateurFlix 04-30-2006 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
If someone wants a link Keyworded why not have them choose to link it themselves? Its really not that hard.

Is it worth 99 bucks?

This can be done automatically over thousands of posts in seconds. So it's real easy to change links/keywords/sponsors on a whim if need be.

That's just one of the features though. I bought it and was satisfied with what it advertised, however there are other programs that make running multiple blogs easier IMO. I haven't tried the newest version though either, so maybe it has improved in that respect.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
The point is with worpress alone you have to manually update everything..

With something like auto blogger you can run a bunch of blogs with very little input or manual work.

Cool its not worth 99 bucks:) Its hard to cut the shit from the shaft.

Thanks.

I figured it was an idiots tool.:thumbsup

cranki 04-30-2006 08:07 PM

This all can be done by including plugins into wordpress... no need to pay a benjamin...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranki
This all can be done by including plugins into wordpress... no need to pay a benjamin...

Exactly.

Open source can't be beat. I just had to make mention to the newb in the biz that they ought not be so easily duped.

Every penny counts New Webmasters.
Spend every dime like its yer last.

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
If someone wants a link Keyworded why not have them choose to link it themselves? Its really not that hard.

Why do it themselves? Isn't that the "auto" part? My time is too valuable to update hundreds of blogs every day.

Think about it .. I'd have to do the following on a ton of blogs MANUALLY:

1) Pull in a feed.
2) Check said feed against a list of keywords, determining if the post will help or hurt my SEO goals, then post it if it's beneficial.
3) Change certain keywords in the text to link directly to sponsors, other pages, etc.
4) Change words (i.e., change Poker to Holdem, if I am optimizing for that) to help SEO keyword-richness.
5) Put a custom header and/or footer on each post.

... why would I do that manually, unless I was either the cheapest fuck out there?

I mean, shit, walking is FREE, but I still drive a car.

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranki
This all can be done by including plugins into wordpress... no need to pay a benjamin...

Sure, it can be done, but I choose my time over the labor, once again.

Instead of manually configuring all of this, writing the code to tie it all together -- hours or days of work -- I just spend the $30 on an AutoBlogger license, and I'm ready to rock and roll minutes later.

"Rapid deployment"

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:12 PM

So you think that a genuine blog with original articles circumvents a blog or should I say "BLOGS" on a wide scale???

Moron...

Case closed.
The niches do not fit.

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:13 PM

Yo, AlienQ, you reminded me -- please hit me up about custom video -- need about 100 sets video, 500 sets pics.

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
So you think that a genuine blog circumvents a blog with original articles?

Can you clarify what you mean here? I might not have understood you correctly.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
Yo, AlienQ, you reminded me -- please hit me up about custom video -- need about 100 sets video, 500 sets pics.

You couldnt afford it. Dont bullshit me.

AmateurFlix 04-30-2006 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
2) Check said feed against a list of keywords, determining if the post will help or hurt my SEO goals, then post it if it's beneficial.

Is this a new feature? I bought this back when it was first released and don't remember reading about this. Are updates to the current version free?

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
You couldnt afford it. Dont bullshit me.

I'm confused as to why you're hostile. You don't want to do business?

Did I piss in your cheerios?

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Is this a new feature? I bought this back when it was first released and don't remember reading about this. Are updates to the current version free?

Yes, updates are always free.

I believe this feature was added in 2.0. ICQ me, and I'll help you get upgraded for free.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
I'm confused as to why you're hostile. You don't want to do business?

Did I piss in your cheerios?

Did you even think about what you said?

100 Sets? + Videos?

WTF are you thinking being here????

If you can afford that!

Make a mainstream movie and never come back.

If ya like send me a Hummer, one of the Limited 50 edition in California right now.

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:25 PM

I need them to promote SCREW.COM -- about 100 video sets, 10 per month, and 500 picture sets, 50 per month. I am making a thread now, if you don't want the business. Your work is clearly top of the line, I just keep forgetting to contact you about it.

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:26 PM

Thread posted. Lives here:

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/604114-custom-video-picture-sets-post9800927.html

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:29 PM

SCREW>?

Ya mean Goldstien's old Outfit?

Screw Magazine?

Maybe you are not making sense to me because.

You are not Italian?

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:31 PM

Screw dot com? What doesn't make sense about that?

Screw.com?

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
You are not Italian?

Of course I'm Italian -- can't you see the hair poking out at the top of my turtlenecks? Or did the furniture on my lawn throw you off? If you tie my hands behind my back, I'm effectively muted.

baddog 04-30-2006 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
So folks pay 99 bucks to have content fluxed into thier blogs via what? RSS?? Seriously I dont get it.


Then start a thread asking to be educated. Wordpress and Autoblogger Pro are not the same thing, not even close.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
Of course I'm Italian -- can't you see the hair poking out at the top of my turtlenecks? Or did the furniture on my lawn throw you off? If you tie my hands behind my back, I'm effectively muted.

No one is mute man.

No One. Not even The Elephant man, Hawking and Superman.

Hit me up sometime.
Ya know where to go:thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2006 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Then start a thread asking to be educated. Wordpress and Autoblogger Pro are not the same thing, not even close.

Thank you for catching up.

edgeprod 04-30-2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Then start a thread asking to be educated. Wordpress and Autoblogger Pro are not the same thing, not even close.

Bingo! They don't do remotely similar things. But, to know that, you'd have to actually read.

baddog 04-30-2006 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
So you think that a genuine blog with original articles circumvents a blog or should I say "BLOGS" on a wide scale???

Moron...

Case closed.
The niches do not fit.

While autoblogger would not be my choice (RSS2Blog would be), it is obvious you don't get it. We make a lot with blogs fed by RSS feeds and we have clients that have 1,000's of such sites.

It simply could not be done manually.

It would be like you painting pictures of girls instead of using a camera.

baddog 04-30-2006 08:47 PM

and ABP is not a blog script

mrkris 04-30-2006 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
While autoblogger would not be my choice (RSS2Blog would be), it is obvious you don't get it. We make a lot with blogs fed by RSS feeds and we have clients that have 1,000's of such sites.

It simply could not be done manually.

It would be like you painting pictures of girls instead of using a camera.

Trying to get support from RSS2Blog is like trying to get helpful support from Comcast cable.

darksoul 05-01-2006 12:08 AM

autoblogger is a plugin for wordpress.
I haven't used it but theres feedswordpress which is free and open source.

edgeprod 05-01-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris
Trying to get support from RSS2Blog is like trying to get helpful support from Comcast cable.

For the record, I never personally dealt for support for RSS2Blog, if they offer it -- RSS2Blog seemed to post OUT to other blogs, when I wanted to pull IN to my blog -- different things, apples and oranges to ABP, which is why I now run AutoBlogger Pro exclusively. RSS2Blog is a fine product for what it's designed to do -- it's just doing different things than AutoBlogger Pro. That's why there are Mercedes, and there are BMWs -- I love my BMW, but I wouldn't make fun of someone driving a Mercedes.

As far as Comcast goes, I once got support from them in only 4 months! Amazing. Not that the problem is fixed, but in the 4-month period, they actually ACKNOWLEDGED a problem -- which is a big step.

My WORST support experience by FAR has been with Falcon Northwest -- that's why I bought my new PC from Alienware, and my work machine from Apple.

Rebecca Love 05-01-2006 12:16 AM

I like Autoblogger pro. I have to respectfully disagree with you Alien. I am not the most tech savy person so this makes it easier for me.:2 cents:

edgeprod 05-01-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
I haven't used it but theres feedswordpress which is free and open source.

feedwordpress is pretty cool, actually. I ran it for a while before deciding that I needed to actually treat my blogs like a business rather than a hobby, and switched.

Although pulling in feeds is such a SMALL part of what AutoBlogger Pro does, you can certainly do that with feedwordpress, or with basic WordPress, if you so desired.

I hope you don't think that it replicates all of the functionality of ABP, though, because it doesn't. In another thread, I wrote up the things I use ABP for. I'll copy it here:

Quote:

I do the following with AutoBlogger Pro:

* Syndicate RSS and Atom feeds that provide keyword-appropriate content to my monthly bookmarkers and search engine visitors. The bookmarkers choose my sites because they offer a good combination of syndication, original content, and presentation.

* Manage my feeds and original content based on keyword mapping. This feature enables me to "test" a feed for relevance before allowing it to automatically appear on my pages. I define "good" and "bad" keywords, and an overall score determines if the content or feed makes the cut.

* Post original content on a schedule, pulling the files from a directory on my server (which I use custom modules to categorize and maintain based on the searches of my users). This schedule can be manipulated to make up for temporary quality fluctuations with my feeds or a lack of good feeds in a specific topic area.

* Relink words or phrases inside of the feeds or articles to point to my sponsors -- it's amazing how people will click on links that are relevant to what they are searching for. When they aren't clicking on the AdSense or AdBrite links around my site, they're clicking Relinked keywords. This feature pulls keywords from a predefined list that I can change at any time, and "relinks" them to a URL of my choosing.

* Rewrite specific keywords to improve keyword density. By allowing the "Rewriter" system to change my feeds or custom content based on a set of predefined rules, I can ensure that my keyword density is appropriate for the phrases I'm targeting. Google loves it, and I get a more relevant page.

* Build a Sitemap based on my recent changes automatically, every time the site updates, and submit this to Google.

* Store images locally, so there is no need for hotlinking. This saves me a lot of time that would otherwise be spent manually downloading and editing images. Of course, I can turn this off selectively if the feeds I'm downloading aren't reusing images that are publically licensed, so I'm not stealing anyone's content.

* Syndicate into a number of categories, and customize the look and feel of my presentation based on results or anticipated searches.

* Define a custom header and footer for not only the site, but also for each article, allowing me to choose between a static offer between each article, or with the help of a rotation script, a custom ad or link.

* Customize my source attributions, to make sure I'm linking feed partners with the best SEO-rich links, so we're both gaining from the syndication of my sites. Some people will never understand the value of a highly relevant link from a high PR site, but that is usually their ignorance, and eventually, their loss.

* Syndicate posts in "stealth mode," allowing search engines to enjoy the keywords and users to be filtered back to higher-grossing areas of the blog.

* Automatically define my site's META tags, freeing me up to focus on something more important: launching the next batch of sites.

* Having complete control over my site's look and feel, I can define custom areas for my sponsors and keyword ads (such as AdSense, AdBrite, and many adult sponsors), not just the boring "top of the page" banners.

* VERY quickly deploy additional sites that don't simply replicate the content from my other blogs, as some other products force you to do. I simply install AutoBlogger Pro in a new directory, or on a new domain, and in under five minutes, I'm tweaking the settings of my new blog. In about an hour, I've got another site up and running itself, and I move on to the next project! I'd hate to be in the shoes of someone who is trying to do that with a product that doesn't have such an easy and integrated installation.

* With the features such as Blog Network management (think PUSH, not pull), Post auto-generation, and much more coming in version 2.5, I can't wait to see how much more I can tweak my existing blogs for enhanced profitability.

There's so many features I use in AutoBlogger Pro, but there are also quite a few I haven't gotten around to learning!

I'm sure, of course, that many people just think AutoBlogger Pro is a tool to pull in RSS feeds, but I'd tell those users they'd be MUCH better off using an inferior product, or downloading feedwordpress for FREE, because feed syndication is such a SMALL part of what AutoBlogger Pro actually does.
I can see how people would think that WordPress does this (which it doesn't) or that feedwordpress does this (which it doesn't) or that some other free product does this (I haven't heard of one). It really comes down to: are you doing this as a business, or as a hobby?

If it's a business, head over to RSS2Blog and purchase one of their modules (make sure you get all of the upgrades and add-ons), or head over to ABP and purchase a license from them. If you're really cheap-ass, try to cobble it all together yourself, or hobble along on something that's less capable. It's really up to you.

ICQ me if you need help with any of this, I'm always willing to lend a hand.

edgeprod 05-01-2006 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebecca Love
I like Autoblogger pro. I have to respectfully disagree with you Alien. I am not the most tech savy person so this makes it easier for me.

Thanks for the kind words -- it's been a week or so since I've checked in with you on ICQ, so definitely drop me a line if you need anything more.

I don't think this thread was meant as anything "serious," so don't let it get to you. It's one of those "fire and forget" deals -- how could anyone seriously misunderstand so badly, and for so long?

gooddomains 05-01-2006 01:04 AM

great thread

darksoul 05-01-2006 01:48 AM

I really have nothing against autoblogger props to those that use it.
I just don't like running encrypted software on my servers which I know
nothing about. And yes I can do everything listed above just with wordpress
and some plugins.

Manowar 05-01-2006 01:58 AM

i <3 wordpress

Rover 05-01-2006 02:00 AM

dunno, blogger works well

edgeprod 05-01-2006 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
And yes I can do everything listed above just with wordpress and some plugins.

Awesome. How much money would it take for you to put together a package that does all of that for me, using open source utilities, and make an installer that gets it ready to run on any domain in minutes, and makes all of those little packages work together "automatically" every time I want to pull in new posts? Even if I go away for a vacation?

Hit me up with a price, and we can get rolling on coding it. Also -- how long will it take you?

edgeprod 05-01-2006 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rover
dunno, blogger works well

Holy shit! Blogger does all of that stuff for you, automatically? I thought it was just a place to post blogs. I mean, shit, if all you want to do is post to a blog, get WordPress -- it's free!

darksoul 05-01-2006 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
Awesome. How much money would it take for you to put together a package that does all of that for me, using open source utilities, and make an installer that gets it ready to run on any domain in minutes, and makes all of those little packages work together "automatically" every time I want to pull in new posts? Even if I go away for a vacation?

Hit me up with a price, and we can get rolling on coding it. Also -- how long will it take you?

if you pull my leg I'll make it and release it for free.
Don't get too cocky about this it aint the shiat.

edgeprod 05-01-2006 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
if you pull my leg I'll make it and release it for free.
Don't get too cocky about this it aint the shiat.

I call bullshit!

See where your mouth is? Put your money there.

Replicate every feature of AutoBlogger Pro, including how nicely the modules work together, and how butter-easy it installs on new domains (rapid deployment) and I will not only buy your version at the AutoBlogger price, I will buy a copy for every auto-blog type of site I launch.

It's so "easy," and people should be doing this instead of spending the measly $30 per domain, so prove it. You stand to make a considerable income -- I launch a lot of sites.

Or, alternatively, admit that my call of bullshit is accurate, and I'll accept your apologies. No face lost.

HotPussyCat 05-01-2006 02:31 AM

wow lots of discussion over blogs, lol.... I guess if you have hundreds of blogs its a good thing but i know i dont wordpress is ok for me.

edgeprod 05-01-2006 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotPussyCat
wow lots of discussion over blogs, lol.... I guess if you have hundreds of blogs its a good thing but i know i dont wordpress is ok for me.

If you're generating your OWN content, use WordPress -- it's free.

If you are looking for a solution to automatically populate your blogs with content, without you having to do anything, then AutoBlogger Pro or RSS2Blog is for you. They're both great products, and will fill this need.

darksoul 05-01-2006 02:44 AM

Sitemapper - http://wp-plugins.net/plugin/sitemap/
Relinker - http://www.headzoo.com/
Meta Tags - http://www.rushmer.com/articles/word...tag-generator/
Word Changer - http://www.headzoo.com/ , http://www.huddledmasses.org/wp-cont...e=acronyms.php

this are just a few of them, and you'll find dozens on wp-plugins
if you think its rocket sience to glue them together then you clearly have no clue about programming.


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