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L-Pink 04-29-2006 02:50 PM

3 minutes of 911 video .......
 
This is an hour plus video, PLEASE SKIP to minute 48 and watch for 3 minutes. This is when building 7 was "pulled"

For me the entire 911 conspiracy issue comes down to this, building seven.

What happened?


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...13046180631815



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~Ray 04-29-2006 03:42 PM

It does say that...interesting.

L-Pink 04-29-2006 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
It does say that...interesting.


He said " we decided to pull it" like all buildings have a big red button you can push to make it collapse ...

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 04:27 PM

FY fucking I this is at least the 3rd time today this spew has been posted. I think they need bans for people that post this link.... :uhoh

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
He said " we decided to pull it" like all buildings have a big red button you can push to make it collapse ...

Pull it. Like get everyone our and away from it? :uhoh

SmokeyTheBear 04-29-2006 04:42 PM

www.infowars.com/Video/911/wtc7_pbs.WMV

heres the portion of silvertsein video isolated

L-Pink 04-29-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
FY fucking I this is at least the 3rd time today this spew has been posted. I think they need bans for people that post this link.... :uhoh

Fuck you too ..... All the past posts were people throwing shit back and fourth. From all those posts I have narrowed my concerns down to this one issue.

I didn't say view this entire video, did I?

I simply asked "what happened" It disturbs me.

If you don't like the topic IGNORE it ....

"Pull it" Pull what the pre-planted charges?

SmokeyTheBear 04-29-2006 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Pull it. Like get everyone our and away from it? :uhoh


lol if a firefighter told me he was going to "pull" my house thats not what i would think he meant

i would think he meant pull my house down.

Hipp 04-29-2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Pull it. Like get everyone our and away from it? :uhoh

Pull it. Like the term used to take the building down.

SmokeyTheBear 04-29-2006 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
Fuck you too ..... All the past posts were people throwing shit back and fourth. From all those posts I have narrowed my concerns down to this one issue.

I didn't say view this entire video, did I?

I simply asked "what happened" It disturbs me.

If you don't like the topic IGNORE it ....

"Pull it" Pull what the pre-planted charges?


lol you dont have to defend yourself to people who are blindly ignorant..

People either bring up valid points to defend accusations or they blow every legit question off with retarted comments like "pull" meant to get everyone away from something.. Nobody with an iq above 10 would assume ths what "pull it" means

TheSenator 04-29-2006 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Pull it. Like get everyone our and away from it? :uhoh


Suck on this

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
lol you dont have to defend yourself to people who are blindly ignorant..

People either bring up valid points to defend accusations or they blow every legit question off with retarted comments like "pull" meant to get everyone away from something.. Nobody with an iq above 10 would assume ths what "pull it" means


Its comes down to this. Why would they want to destroy wt7? Give us a motive.

media 04-29-2006 05:03 PM

I think that "pull it" means to "Pull The Plug" kill the building...

Interesting video... I always like seeing it from all angles then making up my own mind....

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 05:06 PM

http://911myths.com/html/wtc7_pulled.html


Quote:

Those sceptical of the ?pull=demolish? idea suggest that ?pull it? could mean ?pull a firefighting operation?, instead. And even sites collecting examples to show that it is a demolition term , offer some support for this idea. Note how that page also contains the following quotes referring to the firefighters (our emphasis on the words in bold):

...they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too...

Firehouse: Chief Nigro said they made a collapse zone and wanted everybody away from number 7? did you have to get all of those people out?
Hayden: Yeah, we had to pull everybody back.

And we have other issues with the ?demolition? interpretation of Silverstein?s remarks.

Problem #1, Larry Silverstein is not a demolition contractor, neither was the fire department chief, so why should we assume they?d be using slang demolition terms?

Problem #2, Silverstein says "they made that decision to pull", for instance -- the Fire Department. If "pull" means "demolish", then he's saying the Fire Department may not have decided to bring the building down if they couldn't contain the fire, but because it was beyond them, they decided to blow it up. Does this make sense? Not in the slightest.

Problem #3, Silverstein is suggesting that the decision to demolish the building was optional. It might not have happened. Does this fit with the idea of a convenient insurance scam? No, not at all.

Problem #4, why would the Fire Department willingly agree to engage in a multi-million dollar insurance fraud?

Problem #5, and since when do Fire Departments blow up buildings anyway?

Problem #6, and if it's so obvious that WTC7 was demolished, then why are the insurance companies not suing Silverstein for fraud?

Problem #7, and why would Silverstein admit this on television?

PimpDaddyPants 04-29-2006 05:08 PM

wow this is weird shit

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 05:11 PM

Ya it could be that they wanted to Pull the firefighters out, and not risk anymore lives, OR!!! It could be a huge conspiracy which involved explosives planted months in advance, involving hundreds of people who all have remained silent (obviously threatened and watched daily by silent black helicopters), and our own Government planning to fly planes into buildings in order to goto war with Iraq to make all that money on the "war for oil" You guys are seriously fucking looney. Your ounce of common sense dried up years ago apparently. :uhoh


Quote:

In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.

Later in the day, the Fire Commander ordered his firefighters out of the building and at 5:20 p.m. the building collapsed. No lives were lost at Seven World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

As noted above, when Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary he stated, ?I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.? Mr. McQuillan has stated that by ?it,? Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building.
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archiv...16-241966.html

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 05:32 PM

Where are all the come backs? All the sudden no one wants to post....... :uhoh

L-Pink 04-29-2006 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Ya it could be that they wanted to Pull the firefighters out, and not risk anymore lives, OR!!! It could be a huge conspiracy which involved explosives planted months in advance, involving hundreds of people who all have remained silent (obviously threatened and watched daily by silent black helicopters), and our own Government planning to fly planes into buildings in order to goto war with Iraq to make all that money on the "war for oil" You guys are seriously fucking looney. Your ounce of common sense dried up years ago apparently. :uhoh


Did the building fall straight down? How? Why not save it ... just a fire?

Equally interesting ... the press will spend hundreds of hours analyzing every detail of a nit-wit killing his wife, covering the trial, interviewing distant cousins, the dry cleaner they used, etc ...... Where was the follow-up on this major story? ... Either for or against?

AND ... He said it on television?

L-Pink 04-29-2006 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
www.infowars.com/Video/911/wtc7_pbs.WMV

heres the portion of silvertsein video isolated


I actually thought of you when I was posting this .... Wishing I was able to isolate part of the link!

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
Did the building fall straight down? How? Why not save it ... just a fire?

Equally interesting ... the press will spend hundreds of hours analyzing every detail of a nit-wit killing his wife, covering the trial, interviewing distant cousins, the dry cleaner they used, etc ...... Where was the follow-up on this major story? ... Either for or against?

AND ... He said it on television?

Right cause the media is in allegience with the Government now..... Or maybe there IS no story? :uhoh They spent millions of dollars investigating a fake memo that demoralized Bush, but for some reason they are holding back investigating this.......... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 05:47 PM

AGAIN WHY WOULD THE FIRE CHIEF BE IN FUCKING CHARGE OF DEMOLISHING A BUILDING??? Do any of you have a brain at all?? Jesus jumped up and knocked granny out of her fucking rocking chair.. CRIPES!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

L-Pink 04-29-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Ya it could be that they wanted to Pull the firefighters out, and not risk anymore lives, OR!!! It could be a huge conspiracy which involved explosives planted months in advance, involving hundreds of people who all have remained silent (obviously threatened and watched daily by silent black helicopters), and our own Government planning to fly planes into buildings in order to goto war with Iraq to make all that money on the "war for oil" You guys are seriously fucking looney. Your ounce of common sense dried up years ago apparently. :uhoh


The only reason for pulling firefighters out would be knowledge that the building was going to come down. How did they know this? And it fell straight down in seconds .....

YES, a conspiracy is hard to believe .... so is this!

Forget what "pull" means ... what the fuck caused that building to fall like it did, when it did?

Answer ?????????

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ONE THAT REASSURES ME 911 HAPPENED AS FIRST REPORTED.


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stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
The only reason for pulling firefighters out would be knowledge that the building was going to come down. How did they know this? And it fell straight down in seconds .....

YES, a conspiracy is hard to believe .... so is this!

Forget what "pull" means ... what the fuck caused that building to fall like it did, when it did?

Answer ?????????

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ONE THAT REASSURES ME 911 HAPPENED AS FIRST REPORTED.


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Sigh... yawn... Ok you are right. 911 was planned months, possibly years in advance by people in our government to I guess allow us to goto war, and the President and others to be lambasted in the media on a daily basis to make lots of money on all the oil (I guess) that we got from.... wait... how have we profited again? Oh thats right Cheney was a part of Haliburton that oil company... Oh wait they are not an oil company. I keep forgetting that... :uhoh YAWN!!

sltr 04-29-2006 06:00 PM

here's why that comment disproves the conspiracy theory:

the alleged consipirators loaded up wtc7 with enough explosives to "pull" the building without anyone who works in the building knowing/noticing.

then they DID NOT choose to "pull" the building until after the shit storm.

then the fire chief calls silverstein to tell him they can't control the fire, then silverstein- obviously a decision make in the conspiracy tells the chief to go ahead and "pull" wtc7

then silverstein reveals the conspiracy in an interview.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

L-Pink 04-29-2006 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Sigh... yawn... Ok you are right. 911 was planned months, possibly years in advance by people in our government to I guess allow us to goto war, and the President and others to be lambasted in the media on a daily basis to make lots of money on all the oil (I guess) that we got from.... wait... how have we profited again? Oh thats right Cheney was a part of Haliburton that oil company... Oh wait they are not an oil company. I keep forgetting that... :uhoh YAWN!!


Listen sticky, you made this personal, you sound like a raving lunatic, you have avoided the basic question that my post wanted answered.

How did SMALL fires start two blocks away in building #7 ?

These fires were NOT out of control.

Assuming Silverstein said "pull" instead of "clear or evacuate" ???

How and why did that non-blazing, not hit by aircraft, 50 story building fall straight down?

What forces of nature or man caused this obvious imploding? The next time I stay at a large hotel should I worry it will fall if a fire breaks out on another floor?

Your childish but patriotic rants as to how this could not have happened is a popular position. It is a position I held until reviewing the many 911 posts.

The jet/diesel fuel melting the steel core is not being debated.
The Pentagon is not at issue. I did not bring up flight 93.

So how the fuck did a simple fire implode a 50 story building in seconds?

What I want to believe concerning the rest of 911 is now troubling me!



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coolegg2 04-29-2006 07:06 PM

LOL. Funniest conspiracy video ever. It comes across like a fucking infomercial for a conspiracy theory.

CyberHustler 04-29-2006 07:11 PM

i have heard from many high ranking officials in the army that the buildings were demolished with explosives that were placed in the building during construction... woops! ahh fuck it i'm getting out the army in 2 months anyway.

sltr 04-29-2006 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolegg2
LOL. Funniest conspiracy video ever. It comes across like a fucking infomercial for a conspiracy theory.

:1orglaugh no shit eh

and l-pink bought!

L-Pink 04-29-2006 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sltr
:1orglaugh no shit eh

and l-pink bought!

I bought what? I said watch 3 specific minutes .... did you ?

What brought that building straight down in just seconds?

xxxdesign-net 04-29-2006 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Pull it. Like get everyone our and away from it? :uhoh


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

and you do realise that he said... " we decided to pull it.. and then WATCH IT FALL..." Couldnt be more clear ...

sltr 04-29-2006 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
I bought what? I said watch 3 specific minutes .... did you ?

What brought that building straight down in just seconds?

obviously just want to argue, i replied to that question in my post above and you chose to ignore it.

typical conspiracy theorist repsonse (ignore any coherent reply and continue with the *prove me wrong* comments)

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 07:55 PM

Conspiracy videos cause retardation.....

L-Pink 04-29-2006 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sltr
obviously just want to argue, i replied to that question in my post above and you chose to ignore it.

typical conspiracy theorist repsonse (ignore any coherent reply and continue with the *prove me wrong* comments)


WRONG

I want to be educated. You told me HOW it could not have happened. Go back and read your own post. How did it happen?

sltr 04-29-2006 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
WRONG

I want to be educated. You told me HOW it could not have happened. Go back and read your own post. How did it happen?

http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch5.pdf

:winkwink:

L-Pink 04-29-2006 08:05 PM

I saw a building free-fall in seconds, straight down, all 50 stories

I saw the owner state "pull" regarding this building

Evecuate or implode he gave up on saving it from a minor fire

How did that fire make that building implode

Fuck any theories pro/con on the rest of the day

What happened to # 7

Give me facts .... I don't know, it bothers me,

sltr 04-29-2006 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink
I saw a building free-fall in seconds, straight down, all 50 stories

I saw the owner state "pull" regarding this building

Evecuate or implode he gave up on saving it from a minor fire

How did that fire make that building implode

Fuck any theories pro/con on the rest of the day

What happened to # 7

Give me facts .... I don't know, it bothers me,

once again, ignoring coherent and legitimate facts

hasta:thumbsup

L-Pink 04-29-2006 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sltr


You say fire caused that ?

Vegas ... Ever been to Bally's? Formerly the MGM Grand ... That was a fire!

Your link says the building "imploded" and the " specifics of the fire and how it led to collapse are unknown"

????????? nice facts ........

bdld 04-29-2006 08:38 PM

conspiracy theorists are some wacky wacky people..

L-Pink 04-29-2006 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld
conspiracy theorists are some wacky wacky people..

I assume your comment is aimed at me ... fuck you

In politics you have the extreme left/right ...

Issues like 911 bring out the conspiracy nuts/true believers ....

In both cases the majority are in the middle, they just want simple facts to base their own decisions on .....

upping your precious post count is that important?

Kevin - The PNN 04-29-2006 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld
conspiracy theorists are some wacky wacky people..

A men, I second that

Splum 04-29-2006 09:16 PM

http://911myths.com/html/wtc7___silverstein.html

blackfeet 04-29-2006 09:36 PM

satan is busy because he knows he has a short time.


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