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vidsweb 05-11-2002 07:05 PM

What the hell is Scientology?
 
Can someone please explain this wacky seudo-religion to me because I have no idea what its about....and from what limited knowledge I do have of Scientology, it seems to be a cult of some sort.

Gemini 05-11-2002 07:21 PM

The last we heard they still have no legally ordained minister so you can't get married or be buried there. lol And each week a different member gives the sermon. :warning To each their own I guess.

alias 05-11-2002 07:29 PM

its a scam so the inventors don't have to work

they just offer useless guidance to shitty actors and other pathetically lost souls

Fro 05-11-2002 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornopete
Its a 'religion' (and I use the word religion VERY loosely) started by Ron L Hubbard. Blasphamy.
Does Ron L have any relation to L Ron?

12clicks 05-11-2002 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro


Does Ron L have any relation to L Ron?

hahahahahaha


yeah, its a cult/scam to seperate people from their money.

kinda similar to how islam seperates people from their lives.:BangBang:

jimmyf 05-11-2002 07:47 PM

If they have been taking to you the Scientology, people RUN like hell.... DO NOT join.... You'll be working for
them.... You'll have to get another job... to make them happy with $$$ because you'll never be able to get to the
highest Audit......

If you have talked with one and plan to talk with them again... Ask them the last time they were Audited.... and at
what level they are....

It's ALL about money with those prick's....

I was in a business deal with one some years ago...... Cost me out the ass... I didn't find out he was one until I was
in the deal for 20K and he started talking about OUT of BODY Experiences....

I said Jimmy what the fuck did you get yourself into....

And then there was the Law suit...... More money


RUN like hell... DO NOT talk to them again if you all-ready have....
They are VERY GOOD sell's people VERY good...

You've been warned....:1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 05-11-2002 09:39 PM

Scientology is not for you.

I have read every book on Scientology and Dianetics put out by the Church Of Scientology.

It is not a religion or a scam as others put it, there are no "owners" or ministers, its philosophy, one that obviously couldnt be applied by some.

Famous Scientologists, : Michael Jackson, Chic Corea, John Travolta... read more instead of bouncing terms and ideas of what something may be, its one of the greatest errors of man.

I'm not a Scientologist, but on the Superbooger Alliance page I have links to "The Process" which is where it gets deeper.

Note "The Process Is You" in my sig hahaha, its all subconscious.

http://www.superbooger.com/webmasters/

The Process was started by Grimston who is famous for such things as Charles Manson saying he was a prcticing Processean while in jail once, we was met by an affiliate of both the Processean Church and A Scientology "Clear" to denounce his statements.

Eh, i have tattoos about this shit on my arms, and im too high to explain, its all a long story that ends with Skinny Puppys Nivek Ogre and Throbbing Gristles Genesis P Orridge bringing back the Process in a digital revolution in 1994 which was when I got online and for this reason, the church of the Process.

The Process is Yours.

http://religiousmovements.lib.virgin...s/Process.html

Nonetheless Hubbard wanted more of a religious Philosophy like Grimston had, which he was a jesus freak by heart hence the love of Christ along side the worship of the devil or at least the acceptance of him as part of the wheel, for God to exist and exact out punishment, kinda like addressed in "Dogma" Christ or whatever Lord you want it to be, must cast "Judgement" but then one must execute that punishment, so accepting Christ as the Judge, but Lucifer must punics, a balance if that makes sense, hence the "4p" for Process... the symbol i have tatted on my forearm resembles an Iron Cross except its 4 ps interlocking and spinning.

What the fuck is the Process? eh its hard to explain, when in the 60's it was a hippy type religion, now its a digital group that hides in the background yet still applying our philosophy to an organized collective goals... I know it all sounds weird, thats why the saying is "The Process Is You" its what it is to you...

The relation between the process and Dianetics and Scientology is a deep rooted cross between the 2 and the people who wrote their original doctrines... tis not a religion, tis not a scam, it is the center of the information war, its a guiltless state of self awareness, its helping others and individual matters to collective goals with no spiritual bounds...

Its hard to explain what the Process is, but Scientology is a lot different but again, Hubbard wanted to create something as powerful, possibly more commercial...

Ummm... im going read.

http://www.scientology.org/home.html

baddog 05-11-2002 09:42 PM

Cult would be a kind definition for it. You have to love a religion founded by a science fiction writer though. and a religion founded in the last 50 years is so much the better.

I especially like their belief in how our universe was created, the "Big Bang" theory taken one step further.

Their idea of creation was that God threw all kinds of bombs, and nuclear devices into a volcano, and the resulting explosion is how our universe was created.

Now you should all send me $20,000 because they usually charge big bucks to provide this info to their members.

The more you pay, they more they tell you.

:thumbsup

vidsweb 05-11-2002 09:46 PM

I have no idea how Scientology is successful because all these posts sound like gobledegook to me.

Fletch XXX 05-11-2002 09:49 PM

Here's a link to Skinny Puppy's album "The Process" note track "6"

:winkwink:

http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID.../itemid=781004

kmanrox 05-11-2002 09:50 PM

scientology ~ branch davidians ~ jehovah's witnesses

baddog 05-11-2002 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vidsweb
I have no idea how Scientology is successful because all these posts sound like gobledegook to me.
well, I think it just goes to show how desperate some people are to believe in something . . . . and I believe I will have another Jack Daniels on the rocks :1orglaugh

VeNoM 05-11-2002 09:54 PM

its a fucking joke is what it is.......

Fletch XXX 05-11-2002 09:54 PM

one more link for ya http://www.process.org/OProcess/index.html

UnseenWorld 05-12-2002 12:57 AM

As you progress through the "religion," you pay more and more money, and in the end you get a sci-fi story explaining everything.

Pathfinder 05-12-2002 01:01 AM

I personally do not understand how any thinking person with the ability to reason could involve themselves in such nonsense, but then again that applies to many religions/philosophies.

3Jane 05-12-2002 01:02 AM

It involves our supposed evolutionary connection to aliens..seriously.

ElvisManson 05-12-2002 01:07 AM

The Church of Scientology was started by L. Ron Hubbard based on a bet with Robert A. Heinlen.

Read "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Heinlen.

It was written after the founding of Scientology but......

Fuck it..lol..I'm to fucked up to explain it.

Read the book and draw your own conclusions. :)

If you care!

:1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 05-12-2002 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 3Jane
It involves our supposed evolutionary connection to aliens..seriously.
One of the few here who seem to know something about things...

The Overmind Is Always Watching.

Exxxotica 05-12-2002 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson
The Church of Scientology was started by L. Ron Hubbard based on a bet with Robert A. Heinlen.



Incorrect...

Scientology was started by Boneprone based on a bet with Dan Chruchill

3Jane 05-12-2002 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


The Overmind Is Always Watching.

LOL...Uh oh....I know the overmind is always watching, but I often hope it's not noticing me. ;)

Keev 05-12-2002 02:36 AM

I think you can find a good movie on the topic


"One flew over the cookoo nest!"

titmowse 05-12-2002 02:43 AM

The Church of the SubGenius is the only one, true religion. All the rest are pinks!

dipshit moron retard 05-12-2002 03:37 AM

Scientology is a billion dollar worldwide corporation that disguises itself as a religion. They're completely ruthless, you pay them for every session you have where some jackass hooks you up to a lie detector they call an "e-meter" and makes you regurgitate the worst experiences of your life over and over until you've said it so many times it doesn't bother you to say it anymore, at which point you've made "progress". Everything you tell them is written down/recorded and archived, and if you ever leave the church and speak out against them they publish all of it to their membership to show them how fucked up and untrustworthy you are.

Thats the core of their business, but there is much more. they file lawsuits against anyone who says anything negative about them publicly, especially ex members, and keep piling them on forever until they've driven you to financial ruin to set an example for other would be critics. They have slave labor camps where you can live in a dorm and work for them for free in exchange for dianetics training, and they make it incredibly hard to leave once you join one. One woman was unquestionably murdered (2 indictments) for trying to leave http://www.lisamcpherson.org/. They have their own psuedo military branch who've pressured judges into illegally obtaining search warrants which they've used to confiscate the posessions of internet critics and the list goes on and on. Several countries refuse to recognize them as a religion, and theyre generally dispised in european countries.

This post is already too long but there is a mile long list of horrible things they do, setup dummy organizations to distribute seemingly innocent pamphlets on manners to kids in elementary schools, which then direct them towards disguised dianetics run foundations, running 5 luxery hotels and other business fronts to suck in celebrities. They invite wealthy guests to their hotels and bug the rooms, to learn more about their personal life so they can attempt to sell them better, as well as listen to how they react to the sales pitch once they've left the room, hire p.i.'s, you name it. Take the techniques of any standard brainwashing cult, fill it full of expert sales people and pump it with an unlimited supply of money and scientology is what you get.


There is a huge movement to warn people about them online, all of the major leaders/organizers such as those from the alt.religion.scientology usenet group have been sued by them nonstop for upwards of 10 years. They strongly discourage and in some cases forbid members from using the internet or watching any of the dozens of exposes that have been on various news shows and magazines. Generally any news outlet that does a story on them is sued the day after it airs.

jimmyf 05-12-2002 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dipshit moron retard
Scientology is a billion dollar worldwide corporation that disguises itself as a religion. They're completely ruthless, you pay them for every session you have where some jackass hooks you up to a lie detector they call an "e-meter" and makes you regurgitate the worst experiences of your life over and over until you've said it so many times it doesn't bother you to say it anymore, at which point you've made "progress". Everything you tell them is written down/recorded and archived, and if you ever leave the church and speak out against them they publish all of it to their membership to show them how fucked up and untrustworthy you are.

Thats the core of their business, but there is much more. they file lawsuits against anyone who says anything negative about them publicly, especially ex members, and keep piling them on forever until they've driven you to financial ruin to set an example for other would be critics. They have slave labor camps where you can live in a dorm and work for them for free in exchange for dianetics training, and they make it incredibly hard to leave once you join one. One woman was unquestionably murdered (2 indictments) for trying to leave http://www.lisamcpherson.org/. They have their own psuedo military branch who've pressured judges into illegally obtaining search warrants which they've used to confiscate the posessions of internet critics and the list goes on and on. Several countries refuse to recognize them as a religion, and theyre generally dispised in european countries.

This post is already too long but there is a mile long list of horrible things they do, setup dummy organizations to distribute seemingly innocent pamphlets on manners to kids in elementary schools, which then direct them towards disguised dianetics run foundations, running 5 luxery hotels and other business fronts to suck in celebrities. They invite wealthy guests to their hotels and bug the rooms, to learn more about their personal life so they can attempt to sell them better, as well as listen to how they react to the sales pitch once they've left the room, hire p.i.'s, you name it. Take the techniques of any standard brainwashing cult, fill it full of expert sales people and pump it with an unlimited supply of money and scientology is what you get.


There is a huge movement to warn people about them online, all of the major leaders/organizers such as those from the alt.religion.scientology usenet group have been sued by them nonstop for upwards of 10 years. They strongly discourage and in some cases forbid members from using the internet or watching any of the dozens of exposes that have been on various news shows and magazines. Generally any news outlet that does a story on them is sued the day after it airs.

Very good..:thumbsup

Lensman will most likely be served with papers next week...:helpme for allowing people to post on this board about them...

They did just settle a lawsuit that had been going on for over 10 years with an ex-member.... for over 6 million... They have said over and over they would not pay one thin dime.... Well they opened the gates...

volante 05-12-2002 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks



yeah, its a cult/scam to seperate people from their money.

kinda similar to how islam seperates people from their lives.:BangBang:

And how Catholicism turns you into a child molester...


:winkwink:

TheFLY 05-12-2002 07:37 AM

sorry to tell you -- The Boneprone Family is dianetics based

cherrylula 05-12-2002 09:28 AM

Ok..... so how many of you fuckers attend church on Sunday, or wear crosses around your neck? I do not belong to any church group nor do I practice any religion. Hehe do your asses burn while you are sitting in that holy place worshipping god?

As I see most religions as eccentric and strange, I find christianity just as odd. Millions of people still talk about jesus and what a great guy he was. People will wear a cross for him, and then not know a fucking thing about other religions and openly put them down.

I wish people in general were more open minded. You would think that after hundreds of years of religious wars that people would realize there is no "right" religion.

People need to believe in themselves. Those who have problems doing this often fall to whatever religion appeals to them most.

If I had to make a choice though, I'd definitely have to go with Satan. hehehe \m/

"outlander"

TheFLY 05-12-2002 09:51 AM

ok whatever

Pathfinder 05-12-2002 10:09 AM

I like Travolta as an actor but he is not mental giant. I have seen him try to explain why he belongs to Scientology.

dipshit moron retard 05-12-2002 02:34 PM

yeah jimmyf, the story is here http://www.factnet.org/letters/FACTN...m.html?FACTNet


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