For all intents and purposes, what is the difference between blogs and tgps?
 

Do you think consumers really see a difference anymore? Or are they just looking for free porn via any delivery method, so they don't really care?

Secondly, where do you see affiliate programs fitting into blogs? Specifically for those hosting your own blogs, how can an affiliate program like Wegcash assist? I notice many blogs just send to FHGs or basic tour landing pages. Many of which do not seem to orchestrate between one another; For example, highlighting a current girl that leads to a tour whereas she is not the current update; actually, she isn't even on the index page.

-Provide custom landing pages for the traffic? Or are tours and free hosted galleries suffice?

-Fansigns for blogs? How effective is that?

-More RSS capabilities?

more of an interactive experience in blogs i'd say. literary value. more sticky if done right. :2 cents:

blogs have paragraphs, tgp's do not. k?




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some blogs have pics no?

Sure, but do you think this delivery method "appeals" more to consumers? Or do they just see the images?

Does this delivery method offer them a better experience overall? Or are they just bookmarking every page they find that has no consoles and free porn?

The way I see it, the main difference between "Blog" and "TGP" is that "blog" rhymes with other words like "hog" and "log", but "TGP" doesnt rhyme with any other word.

Some blogs look like TGPs. That was my point, seems you got that though.

Will you be in San Fran tomorrow?

my thoughts exactly

I was just playing around man. :thumbsup

i think more or less they are all looking for as much free stuff as possible. to be general. theres more stickyness to them in my opinion. theres some very good bloggers on this board. sooner or later they will see it and give you a better view. this is just what i think. we're going to offer hosted blogs here soon.

That's a good one :)

I have mixed feelings about hosted blogs. I am sure I don't have to tell you that though.

I debate it....

Dear dear boy...blogs, if done right, give you a means to get mainstream surfers in front of your adult ads.

All those mainstream sites that won't sell or send traffic to "porn" sites...you can get that traffic.

Blogs that look like TGPs generally aren't doing it right imo.

Blogs and Tgp have a totally different approach. Blogs , if done correctly get a lot of SE traffic.. on different keywords.
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More along the lines of what I was looking for.

By your response, should I assume that blogs and tgps are not different, however the blog delivery method is more SE friendly, therefore it gets your "tgp" in front of more surfers?

i think its going to take alot of babysitting. just like offering free hosting. either i'll have to go in or i'll find someone to go in and clean out the abusers. thats what i am doing now. trying to put an abuse limiter of some sorts into place before i kick em out there. my current hosted galls give people the op to upload a recip banner. a hosted blog is a nightmare in disguise. its a challenge to police what people are posting. it wouldn't be given to everyone out of the gate. its more or less something i am looking to do as a bonus for people sending a fair amount of joins if they want it. like you said....mixed feelings.

If you want more info on blogs or would like to discuss em more in depth, i'm always available on icq. 111-914 I can help point you in the right direction if its something you wanted to dabble in.

Look at a blog as an intermediary. There are a shitload of high traffic sites that won't sell/trade with "porn" sites.

If you have "some" adult content...that's ok but it has to have some content beyond porn - that non tpg'd traffic is valuable. Once you get that traffic...you can send it where you want.

That's all I'm gonna say.

What he said. If done correctly, it's a totally different approach at getting traffic.

http://www.porno-shack.com blog with tgp similiar methods. pulls more se traffic then most tgp's i ever ran.....has a LOT MORE TEXT then tgp's too.

That's a benefit - short term...blogs shouldn't be about getting SE traffic - that's a bonus.

If done correctly, they should give you access to mainstream entertainment traffic...an unsaturated audience to plaster your ads in front of.

You're not going to beat or even compete with top level SEO's with a blog...that's pointless.

toodles.

Hosted blogs are a waste if you are referring to sponsor provided blogs.

What gives value to a blog is unique content. A sponsor provided blog is not going to be unique content.

Rss.....

The blog format comes off a bit more like information. Like a review site of the hottest shit for whatever they are about. Obviously not all blogs, but porn blogs are like that anyways. They give a more personal touch to the selling, and if you prefer, a more advanced overview of a sponsor depending on how it's done.

Some blogs give a little cha cha about the site/program/content they are promoting that day.

Where as a TGP is like,..

look at pussy, now buy
look at foot, now buy

My personal opinion is that a blog while not a volume most often, is more a soft sell. A TGP is more like throwing a bunch of shit at the wall, hoping for a sale. But what it tends to breed are the freeloaders.

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LOL guys. dont ruin blogs for everyone like you did with TGPs...., please.... to the whole industry, please.

In the SE's mind yes, but when spamming them with TGP and shit traffic who cares. I think blogs will be ruined by people who dont "get" it

Blogs started out as web logs used for informative information in a general sense... Then when some adult webmasters started playing with them, they lost their real purpose and became tgp's in the guise of blogs.. Nothing is consistent as long as some adult players turn things into a clusterfuck...

Sponsors fitting into blogs?...Autoblogs..I would love to have an autoblog, a site that updates itself with tagged sponsor content, released by sponsors specifically for blogs. Image, text, link to more content. I subscribe to your feeds, and new content gets published as it becomes available based on my subscribed tags. This means if I have a porn blog with a 'blonde teen' category, I have 10 sponsor programs that release tagged "blonde, teen" content that auto publishes on my blog as a blog post.. not a linked headline..actual content. I have a "general" category for webmaster featured updates or featured daily category new content entrances, etc. This is the bridge. Let me push traffic, post ads, and use your content I specifically collect or elaborate upon in posts for my blog. Variation, style, multimedia, sponsor controlled free content, no headaches, built - in marketability (SEO). For a more TGP style you can auto approve user submissions through the back end in more of a pic/post 2 gallery style rather than a link list (thumbnail/links).
Let me ask my fairy programmer for 3 more wishes please :)
C

Affiliate programs can provide RSS feeds of hosted galleries/articles so blogs can use the for automatic updates.

Affiliate programs can offer hosted blogs so affiliates can link to them from their own blogs.

Blogs are text heavy and if done right have a lot of original text as well. Blogs get better se traffic than TGPs if done right.

Blogs give less free content than tgps if done right. On most of my blogs, I post a paragraph of text and one free movie gallery every 1-2 days. Compare this to my tgps where you can get hundreds of new galleries every single day. Less free content means that surfers have to pay to see more. The rise of blogs is a good thing for sponsors.

Blogs build consumer trust.

Also, sponsors should think of their hosted blogs as another tour for their paysite. They may find a blog tour converts better than a traditional tour. Link the blog articles directly to the join page.

I agree and no, I was not referring to that.
Exactly what I mean. I would like to know what we can do to improve relations with webmasters fostering this traffic. I am having content shot, so unique content will not be a problem....anything else that helps deliver this content?

Y'know Cory I have been building a bunch of Blogs recently and I decided to not to have any pics that are clickable to a hosted gallery or bigger picture. All Pics on my blogs go directly to the sponsor. I figure the pics I show are of decent or high enough quality that that should be enough to whet your appetite. If the surfer clicks anything it goes directly to the sponsor. My numbers are going up so I am not gonna change my approach.

I would want dynamic or unique texted posts about your product. Something keyword heavy and linkable to your product.

By unique content I was not referring to images, I was referring to text. A blog is text, a TGP is images. Even if there are webmasters that have not figured that out, that is the primary difference.

Agreed Baddog

This is where the problem lies. Where do you get enough text that you can provide it to 100's or 1,000's of webmasters and keep it unique?

I only know of one program capable of doing this.

You are clueless..blogs are and should be about getting SE traffic..they arent about pictures..or banner ads..they are about unique text, fresh, updated unique text, and a great way to sell a sponsor.

Adult webmasters have really distorted what a blog is and the value that it has.

Hosted blogs are pointless IMHO..having the same text on 1,000 of sites isnt going to convert anywhere near what a blog with original unique text is.
The text is whats going to sell a site and get the surfer to click, sure its ok to have a pic of the girl(s) they can find on the site, but these blogs that have 4-5 pics per post or lead to a hosted gallery are just a joke, they might as well be a TGP.
If you must send them to a landing page off the blog for the pics, make it very limited in free content..and use that page to sell the site with more unique text..a page with 20 pics and 2 flashing banner ads isnt going to convert anyone.

Sponsor provided blog entries are also of little or no value in terms of appealing to the SE's..again..it's the same text a thousand other guys are using..the SE's will spot that in a second.

Can you convert marginal traffic using hosted blogs or cookie cutter text? sure..but your conversions on a blog with 100% unique content and SE traffic will blow the doors off and of those kinds of blogs.

Mighty Chin would you prefer to link to custom join pages? Or do you shoot straight to a tour?

You compete with the SEO's. They'll win.

I'll use them to find trades and places to buy mainstream traffic and plaster adult ads in front of those surfers without worrying about who's got or going to take those keywords :)

I'm shooting to straight tours right now Cory. But if there was some research done in the area of trying to convert blog traffic better that would be interesting to see what kind of tours people could come up with.

Yeah Baddog it would definately be a problem to facilitate that type od service.

By the way great topic

really..well I wonder how it is I have 2 blogs listed on the 1st pages in google and yahoo for a cpl very popular search terms? I've had those listings for over 4 -5 months now...lol not to mention many 2nd and 3rd page listings for my other blogs that also draw considerable SE traffic.
but hey your results may be different than mine...

When I have content shot, and later encoded, I always ensure that the content meets the current webmaster demands. For example, I get "portable" content so that we can build those corresponding tours and meet the demand for that traffic solution.

So in essence, maybe tours could be targetted for that end user? They enjoy text, so possibly gearing tours to meet this criteria is helpful?

Some blogs are just like TGPs, some are more than that.

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blogs are cooler

TGPs give me something to wack my dick to. Blogs are just useless internet clutter, much like tripod.com websites.

Cory ask Jstyles to point you in my direction Thursday/friday . I can tell you in 10 minutes exactly what a sponsor should be offering to bloggers