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Adult-biz 04-23-2006 05:18 AM

BUSINESS POST - What would you pay for such a service? (Gallery Traffic).
 
I am looking at offering some different advertising options for clients so need to gauge some feedback from people who would be interested in such a service.

What would you pay for galleries submitted for you (pics and movies) to accounts (many partner type accounts) that were consistently seeing either 50 k, 100 k and 200 k daily to galleries on the domain(s) they were being submitted from?

So to clarify...you would provide the daily galleries, that gallery would be uploaded by us to our server and then submitted to all the partner accounts by one of my people. The only work being carried out by you (the buyer) would be the providing of the gallery templates + content (the rest would be carried out by us which would include all preparation, submitting, hosting fees and partner account fees).

So what would you pay for 50 k, 100 k or 200 k to galleries daily?

And before you ask...obviously any interested buyers would be provided with info on the traffic for that particular domain (server stats).

Nicky 04-23-2006 05:25 AM

You honestly think anyone is going to pay for traffic that you can basically cut him of from when ever you want since it's your domains and your servers?

Adult-biz 04-23-2006 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky
You honestly think anyone is going to pay for traffic that you can basically cut him of from when ever you want since it's your domains and your servers?

Why would I cut it from them?
You could use that arguement for all traffic purchased by clients (whether gallery, clicked, feeder etc.) so this scenario is no different.

I`m talking about a weekly or monthly type set-up.

Nicky 04-23-2006 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sexus
Why would I cut it from them?
You could use that arguement for all traffic purchased by clients (whether gallery, clicked, feeder etc.) so this scenario is no different.

I`m talking about a weekly or monthly type set-up.

Ok, but what makes it a bit less tempting is the fact that the galleries will be on your server and your domains, sure some people might not have a problem with that but im not sure I would like that. But good luck with your idea. Im sure some will try it, there are loads of traffic buyers around :)

Mist 04-23-2006 05:54 AM

I guess that you would eliminate the cheating factor if you host the galleries, but how long time will the galleries stay up, will they be deleted after the purchase is completed? What are the sources for the traffic and which countries does it come from?

Adult-biz 04-23-2006 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mist
I guess that you would eliminate the cheating factor if you host the galleries, but how long time will the galleries stay up, will they be deleted after the purchase is completed? What are the sources for the traffic and which countries does it come from?

Thanks for your input.
Galleries would stay up permanently (as all my own galleries do).
Traffic sources are paid and non paid partner accounts.
Traffic geo origin (as per webalizer) would be approx...

Network & US commercial: around 60/70%
Western European: around 20/30%
Eastern European/Asian: under 10%

Egomancer 04-23-2006 11:22 AM

Interesting idea...I just want to see how much would they pay. Generaly 1k users is like 3.5 -7 USD. 100k should be 350 USD...

Egomancer

Theo 04-23-2006 11:27 AM

Still I cant think of a single real important reason to host the galleries yourself.

Theo 04-23-2006 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egomancer
Interesting idea...I just want to see how much would they pay. Generaly 1k users is like 3.5 -7 USD. 100k should be 350 USD...

Egomancer


$3.5k/million gallery traffic? get real ;-)

Adult-biz 04-23-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
Still I cant think of a single real important reason to host the galleries yourself.

Two main reasons:

1. Simplicity for the client (avoids using own hosting and avoiding any of the preparation etc.)
2. Eliminates potential cheating (webmaster changing gallery, exploits, redirecting etc. therefore ensuring the partner accounts are not threatened).

Quotealex 04-23-2006 12:33 PM

I wouldn't pay a dime for such a service. That put to much power on your hand , you control the domain, server, traffic flow, etc. and none on mine. Plus I don't know too many content provider who would be happy with that setup.

I'd rather just buy traffic that can be sent to my site than this.

Adult-biz 04-23-2006 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal
I wouldn't pay a dime for such a service. That put to much power on your hand , you control the domain, server, traffic flow, etc. and none on mine. Plus I don't know too many content provider who would be happy with that setup.

I'd rather just buy traffic that can be sent to my site than this.

I appreciate your comments and understand that a lot of trust would be required but for those people who do know me on this board can expect a totally honest set-up that covers everything that I quote. It is worth mentioning that I am not offering such a service at the moment but have had some clients ask me about this type of set-up so the thread was purely to throw it into the mix. :)

btw what did you mean re content providers being unhappy with such a set-up? You referring to people using non sponsor type content on galleries and the licensing issues that are associated with that?

crockett 04-23-2006 01:22 PM

Here's my thought on the idea.. If you already have this traffic, meaning you are submitting galleries now and pulling this traffic. Well IMO you must not be converting very well and that would mean the traffic is probably pretty shitty.

So it's just like the TGP/MGP's that make more money by selling spots than listing their own galleries. You are looking to do the exact same thing except on the gallery side.

So IMO the obvious question is why would you not use your own galleries if the traffic was worth anything?

I see the same issue with the people trying to sell gallery submits the same way. If they can submit the galleries why would they only charge $10-15 dollars to do the submits when they could just submit their own?

Quotealex 04-23-2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexus
You referring to people using non sponsor type content on galleries and the licensing issues that are associated with that?

yes, non-sponsor content providers will have a problem whith it.

shermo 04-23-2006 01:34 PM

So..Are the sites you are submitting to allowing you to submit other people's galleries? Are they aware that you are making money from people submitting via their partner accts that they could sell instead? Have you gotten their permission?

Adult-biz 04-23-2006 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
Here's my thought on the idea.. If you already have this traffic, meaning you are submitting galleries now and pulling this traffic. Well IMO you must not be converting very well and that would mean the traffic is probably pretty shitty.

So it's just like the TGP/MGP's that make more money by selling spots than listing their own galleries. You are looking to do the exact same thing except on the gallery side.

So IMO the obvious question is why would you not use your own galleries if the traffic was worth anything?

I see the same issue with the people trying to sell gallery submits the same way. If they can submit the galleries why would they only charge $10-15 dollars to do the submits when they could just submit their own?

Traffic is converting and I have some decent partner accounts.

The main issue that I have is lack of time to trawl through suitable sponsors and before people dismiss that comment as nonsense, finding quality unsaturated sponsors and then getting my people to build suitable galleries takes time...lots of it. I have so many large projects right now that I am spending enormous amounts of time managing so many things.

Honest answer.

Adult-biz 04-23-2006 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shermsshack
So..Are the sites you are submitting to allowing you to submit other people's galleries? Are they aware that you are making money from people submitting via their partner accts that they could sell instead? Have you gotten their permission?

I am not submitting galleries for anybody at the moment. Once again, the purpose of the thread was to gauge some feedback and the sort of prices people would pay for such a service.


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