Who produces the best feeds?
 

I'm just curious as to what webmasters think. I know every content producer thinks theirs are the best, but that's not always the case ;)

If you think it's a particular site with feeds -- ie milfhunter.com , bangbus, let me know that too --

Bangbus doesnt have feeds :)

Sweet Entertainment is good shit...

sweet doesnt have feeds for sale either do they?
Only video on thier server. Not feed.

hmmmm....

not sure who I would pick :1orglaugh

I like Pizzahut feeds.

Their videos are basically the same thing as a feed, just their own.

I'm trying to figure out if what webmasters think is good is the same thing surfers think is good.

Make a poll on your sites !

i think all feeds suck shit. but thats just me

I don't have sites, did I miss something here?

Web Dream has some great feeds that are not plastered all over the Internet...they are fresh amateur girls, no upsells, etc. http://promo.webdream.com

For more info contact SNIPER ([email protected]) and tell her Muffy sent ya :winkwink:

feed sucks a lot... LOL

Although its more of a buffered download than a feed...

http://www.xpleasures.com has some great quality and IMO the best bang for the buck as far a leased plugins....

But then again I work for them...icq me for a user/pass. Or check the end of the riddle thread.

Apparently we have the best exit consoles with feeds :1orglaugh

crab feeds....

If you are talking about real streaming feeds, not a choppy jpeg push, Stop by and request a demo
www.afterdark-entertainment.com

If you are talking about real streaming feeds, not a choppy jpeg push, Stop by and check it out, no password needed.

www.xamo.com/video

Ok non biased ...

i think that www.webmastercentral.com by far has some of the best feeds including functionality and variety..

Andy better appreciate this i am not even getting paid for that.

Also one of the oldest guys around ... www.videosecrets.com

Whats up Jeff ;)

Guys, what I am looking for here is NOT a sales pitch. I am just curious.

We have sites we process for asking us where to find things all the time, and so I like to know.

I'm not buying anything, I'm just suggesting to other people they might.

Papa John's feeds me well.

:thumbsup

Right now I use SocalStreams.com , Holio's spring break, and a couple others inside dormangels.

I love SoCal's plugin. A lot of girls. Mostly pictures. Some good hardcore videos.

I don't like Holio's. Not updated enough. And my members don't really want to see the spring break stuff

I'm about to start up with www.gotjizz.com - it's a really good price for quality of videos and girls.

For the amateur/college thing I have at dormangels - I think GotJizz will work really well.

I thought about amateurplugin - and have looked inside at their stuff. their prices are reasonable - but some of the girls are a bit older - they look 22-24+

Now that's the kind of answer I'm looking for Brett! :)

With the average retention going down every month, there's got to be something that will keep surfers memberships going.

Some good priced movie feeds I checked out today someone told me was good, I thought was good shit.

http://www.ademia.com

I think feeds suck.


Downloadable MPEGs are better.

Hmmm, if your content is downloadable, couldn't a surfer download it all in a 3 day trial and then have no reason to pay you for membership?

He kicked me out, but his daughter Wendy feeds me now...yummy:winkwink:


Kimmy Kim "Hmmm, if your content is downloadable, couldn't a surfer download it all in a 3 day trial and then have no reason to pay you for membership?"

Come on??..like you didn't know this??...Why do you think there are so many trials, and cancellations, and chargebacks??...Surfers are scum,...bandwidth stealing, content thieves...

Well, yes, of course I know this.

However SOMEONE who's reading this might not have thought of it, be they new or just not thinking.

Food for thought often comes in the form of a question you know?

On our paysites, the most popular feed that we have is Laura's Condo, which is a voyeur feed featuring a 30-somthing alright looking girl.

It is strange b/c she is not a hottie, but the members love her and keep coming back for more. One member even started a fan club site for her. Another one the members like is Cutie Condo...

We also have Voyeur Dorm, Tittalk, Voyeur Casa, udorm, etc. which have fairly good looking girls, but they just don't seem to be as popular as Laura's Condo,

There is my :2 cents:

Cheers,

Muffy

Am not an expert, but I went and looked at 2 or 3
here..... They look pretty good to me... Quality wise...

And didn't have to have a password nor give out my email address...

Also the girls look pretty good...

try feeding with this Sugar

we have a great feed

CHEERLEADERS GONE WILD


100% all 18 to 22 year old Cheerleaders Video and pics

That's the thing too many paysites get wrong. When people go searching for amateurs (and it's a HUGE search term as many prolly know) they want just that - amateurs. There's very few content providers provide good amateur stuff. Put any sort of girl in a studio or under good studio lighting and it starts to move away from real amateurs and the punters start to lose interest.

Take a look at the traffic voyeurweb gets and the quality of the pics as a good example. Quailty is generally crap at best but the pics are real amateurs ie readers wife type snaps. I'd be interested if any one has 'real' amateur feeds for future projects I got in mind be they pics, live, movies or a mix.

just don't stay with a single provider too long. they ALL stink after a few weeks/months.

started nocardsnetwork.com 2 weeks ago. they do fine i suppose.

Feeds are fun.

Getting some good answers in here now -- what actually causes a surfer to keep his membership past a trial is a mystery sometimes.

It used to be that certain types of sites were sure to retain -- i.e. single girl sites that updated regularly, well done niche sites, gay sites, but any more it seems that it's not quite that cut and dried.

One of the things we try to do with our clients is find ways to help them increase their income. Sometimes we can do that purely by analyzing overall stats for certain things, but sometimes I'd rather hear some opinions to get a starting point from.

Keep em coming...

feeds are good... b/c surfers can't join your site download all of your videos and cancel during the 3 day trial... if you are a paysite owner... you understand this... feeds help retention...as long as they are updated...on a regular basis... anyway.. i'm partial.. check us out

http://www.freshwebmastercontent.com

http://www.deeporalgirls.com

peace
greg:glugglug

...our feeds are regularly updated.... every second or so :winkwink:

I dont think you question was aimed toward live stuff... so ill shut up ;)

It's aimed toward anything that you think makes your surfers stay longer actually, maybe feeds was a bad term to use --

could be movies, feeds, live stuff, chat, etc

Oh I see...


Then I really like Pornication :Graucho

But live feeds do retain membership very well. We have people sending jewelry and shit here, a lot of wedding proposal...

Once these wankers fall in love, they're hooked...

I'm going to have to agree with Brett. Got Jizz is the best feed out there. I'm not just saying it because we're producing it, I truly believe it. I've been running sites since 1995 (our 7th anniversary of Cyberbabes is in July). We've been producing content that long for ourselves because we couldn't find anything else out there that was worth buying.

Most of the plugins out there just aren't very good. Ours are.

We have Got Jizz and Porn in Public - so far we've invested over $200,000 US in those two plugins, they're quite expensive to produce. If you'd like to take a look at them, please shoot me an email at mike AT virtucon dot net. Or you could take me up on a challenge.

Go to www.contentspotlight.com (netpond's content resource site) and get an account. Once you get in there, take a look at all the plugins they have listed (once you're in you get full access to all the listed plugins). Take a good critical look around and let me know if ours aren't the best ones on there. I am waiting to hear from you.

Some call it cockiness. I just stand behind our products.

If you'd like to hear me speak about content, I will be speaking at the Montreal show in a few weeks. Look forward to seeing you there.

VirtuMike
VirtuContent.com

I totally agree with the logic of that statement, but for reasons that surpass understanding, the best retaining sites I promote offer downloadable video clips and put their galleries in zip format so the members can download them with one click.

Go Figure :eek7


Granted these sites are doing this with their own exclusive content, so that has a lot to do with the retention. However, some of these sites have zero feeds, only their own content which a broadband user could download during the trial period easily, but they retain month after month.

Feeds are great, but to really know what your members are getting you need to demo them yourself on a dial up connection. Alot of users want downloadable content simply because it takes them 30 minutes to download a 5 minute clip, and if they have some favorites they don't want to wait 30 minutes every time they want to see it.

You gotta look at it from a punters point of view. Many/most are still on 56k and 56k feeds are shit with no real exceptions. Sure there are standards that'll give a poor quality streaming pic on 56k but even these need a good connection which many ISP's have trouble providing 24 hours. Downloadable feeds mean they can often get good quality porno vids on their PC's and actually get off watching them - something hard to do on streaming. If they REALLY want porn they'll stay as long as the site updates regularly.

Most pervs don't wanna keep watching the same stuff and will stay to keep downloading the updates - cheaper than keep buying trials for most sites. It goes back to the point of having good and pref unique content with regular updates.

You also get a lot of crap keep apearing on boards about why would anyone buy when there's so much free stuff? The fact is and will remain that a GOOD paysite will always be able to offer much that you either can't get for free or is extremely difficult at best to get for free. They'll pay and continue to pay if you give them what they want.

OK so what is the difference in retention is standard content -- you know, X number of this, X number of that, and what I like to call serial content -- i.e. a storyline and updates to the story line -- something like Bangbus or Milfhunter?

Any ideas here? Think it's better? Worse? Whats the ideal update scenario, to not give too much up, but to retain?

Got Jizz is using pretty much the same approach as Stern. I think most of our members come back time after time to see what Dugmor and his crew are gonna do next.

Our latest funny as nads one was Felicia's last clip where she wasted Dugmor's printer. Great stuff, smashing it against a brick wall. Apparantly she was mad about someone sticking a power drill inside her you know where...

The Porn in Public stuff is for those guys addicted to the whole Girls Gone Wild thing. We're offering pretty much the same video as they have (actually sometimes their crew is in our videos, and we have many of the same exact shots at the same time). You see all those infomercials, but we're offering it to your surfers instantly. Believe me, they're not losing money here, the market is huge.

We're updating both monthly, so we give people a reason to come back. As far as the download issue, I very much prefer to not allow downloads. If they take everything, all you have left of value to them is the updates. Plus they'll start file sharing your stuff and you're losing value. I am a believer in protection of properties.

VirtuMike
VirtuContent.com

Still waiting ;)

Bwhaha. I like KK's attitude - a little spunky and right to the point.

just one guys opinion. (AND I'm no expert - this is only my second year of doing the paysite thing)

For the first year we only charged 15 a month. For the first couple of months of operation we didn't update on a fixed schedule - we would try to add 2-4 photo sets a month.

The last couple of months we've added plugins, added videos, and added photo updates 8-10 times a month, on a regular schedule.

The sheer volume of girls, photosets and plugins has helped our conversion rates. As well as our rentetion, our intial to rebill increased 25% compared with the way with used to do things - helping our partners make much more money.

We'll see though - on the 2nd of may we upped our price by 5 bucks. Haven't seen any slow down in conversions - but it's too early to tell what if any affect it will have on retention.

oh - one more thing about content - our girls do follow a bit of a story - we start out just introducing the girls with a couple tease galleries - but you have to be a member for 2 months to be able to see a NEW angel get to the HardCore stuff.

Hi everyone,

(Warning: Long Post)
I work for Sweet Entertainment and since I've learned alot from reading this thread I thought I'd share our tests/experiences.

Two weeks ago we started offering our Sweetloads videos for download to our members. Our member surveys showed repeatedly that over 60% of our members are on dialups and can't get a good "porn buzz" from watching the streams. This has had two effects. First, our bandwidth use went up by 10% and second our trial to first month conversion ratio went up higher than expected (though I'm not saying how much):Graucho

Initially we were worried about the file swapping services but we watermarked our videos with our URL. This can only lead to beneficial viral marketing since there's no way a fan will be able to get every single one of our 100 full videos off of Limewire etc. If they like what they see they will hopefully join the site in order to get all the videos and updates. Also, they can see the quality and content of the videos before they buy, and especially with the BDSM stuff if "your content is good, they will cum!" You have to remember the people you want, the real "porn junkies" are collectors. If they like a specific line of videos they have to have ALL of them - that's just their psyche. This explains the tremendous retention for original content sites because if a member quits, he's afraid of missing one of the updates and not having a complete collection..

As far as the feeds question goes, we do get complaints when certain feeds go down but we've noticed there isn't that much backlash when we take down one feed and replace it with another in the same niche.... This leads me to believe that the feeds are just icing for members that are waiting for the next update of original content.

In answer to KK, I've noticed that there is almost no scenario based content out there. (the nastydollars boys and us - if there's anyone else please speak up!) The feedback we've received from members seems to show that they like variety (not the same pick up line/scenario) in every shoot. For our Buttcam scenarios, our guy has been a Philipino matress salesman, scuba diving instructor, a psychic and an alien abductee! This makes the scene humorous as well as horny...

What's needed to build a good fan base is a verbally dynamic personality that runs the shoot. This means producers have to start putting a little creativity into their productions because in addition to being titillating porn should be entertaining!

This keeps members waiting for your next update because guaranteed it won't be the same as what the next guy's got. Whether they retain the first month or not, they'll always be back eventually....

Sorry for the long post, just thought someone could benefit....