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04-06-2006, 07:56 AM

You are not going to allow people to send $$ to users that dont have a business account now?

You guys are really self-destructing in a big way.

What alternatives are there to Epassporte?

I use several designers / copy-writers that dont have a business account and you are basically telling me i cant pay them by Epassporte any more.

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04-06-2006, 07:58 AM

what is this about?
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04-06-2006, 07:59 AM

You need to get a personal epass account, then you will be able to send to other personal account holders....

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04-06-2006, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by jdavis

what is this about?

You arent going to be able to send funds to an epass user that is in a wide range of countries around the globe unless they have a business account.

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04-06-2006, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

You arent going to be able to send funds to an epass user that is in a wide range of countries around the globe unless they have a business account.

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where is this info Lee?
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04-06-2006, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by woj

You need to get a personal epass account, then you will be able to send to other personal account holders....

Try again Woj ;)

Hopefully Keyser will be in here to handle damage control because this will effect a LOT of webmasters.

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04-06-2006, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Juicy D. Links

where is this info Lee?

Indeed, id like to know when they were going to make this info public too

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04-06-2006, 08:04 AM

poor Keyser lol
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04-06-2006, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

Indeed, id like to know when they were going to make this info public too

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So if a sponsor wants to send me $$$ and i have personal accts it wont be able to be done anymore basically?
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04-06-2006, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Juicy D. Links

So if a sponsor wants to send me $$$ and i have personal accts it wont be able to be done anymore basically?

Thats what im being told.

It *might* only effect some people though so Epass needs to be getting their poster-boy in here to clarify this.

As of right now though, im being told if you dont have a biz account, you cant accept funds from Epass users.

This has been this way for a few days.

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04-06-2006, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

You are not going to allow people to send $$ to users that dont have a business account now?

You guys are really self-destructing in a big way.

What alternatives are there to Epassporte?

I use several designers / copy-writers that dont have a business account and you are basically telling me i cant pay them by Epassporte any more.

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Lee

I think you have a couple of things mixed up.
Personal accounts from restricted countries can no longer send and receive p2ps. They are still able to receive transfers from business accounts, use the virtual visa and Electron card.

Non restricted personal accounts can only send money to business accounts using the ePPurchase system, nothing have change about this.

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04-06-2006, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

Thats what im being told.

It *might* only effect some people though so Epass needs to be getting their poster-boy in here to clarify this.

As of right now though, im being told if you dont have a biz account, you cant accept funds from Epass users.

This has been this way for a few days.

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Lee

EVERYONE can receive transfers from business accounts no matter what type of account you have or which country you live in.

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04-06-2006, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

Thats what im being told.

It *might* only effect some people though so Epass needs to be getting their poster-boy in here to clarify this.

As of right now though, im being told if you dont have a biz account, you cant accept funds from Epass users.

This has been this way for a few days.

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Lee

its prob isolated maybe to some high risk countries or whatever, i stick my card in atm and it gives me money i am happy
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04-06-2006, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

Personal accounts from restricted countries can no longer send and receive p2ps. They are still able to receive transfers from business accounts, use the virtual visa and Electron card.

What if i want to send someone an epass for payment? They are basically shit out of luck unless *I* open a business account is what you are saying?

How many people on GFY alone do you think use outsourced workers? How many people on GFY do you think are going to open a business account to be able to pay these workers when they already know you guys are fucked up?

I think the exodus from Epass is going to begin very shortly.

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04-06-2006, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

EVERYONE can receive transfers from business accounts no matter what type of account you have or which country you live in.

Nice,
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04-06-2006, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

Personal accounts from restricted countries

Can we have a list of these restricted countries please?

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04-06-2006, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

What if i want to send someone an epass for payment? They are basically shit out of luck unless *I* open a business account is what you are saying?

How many people on GFY alone do you think use outsourced workers? How many people on GFY do you think are going to open a business account to be able to pay these workers when they already know you guys are fucked up?

I think the exodus from Epass is going to begin very shortly.

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Lee

This will probably affect 5 % of their customers...

we all know epass service is tricky, it kinda sucks and everything, and we still use it. Why ? Because there is no alternative. How can it go down when there is no competition ?

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04-06-2006, 08:12 AM

For security reasons this feature is currently not available to your account.

Trying to send from a personal account to my account.

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04-06-2006, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

What if i want to send someone an epass for payment? They are basically shit out of luck unless *I* open a business account is what you are saying?

How many people on GFY alone do you think use outsourced workers? How many people on GFY do you think are going to open a business account to be able to pay these workers when they already know you guys are fucked up?

I think the exodus from Epass is going to begin very shortly.

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Lee

The countries affected by this is:
Romania
Russia
Latvia
Ukraine
Vietnam
Moldova

Chris Mallick posted this on why this step were necessary:

Originally posted by Chris Mallick

We have found that most fraud comes from a person (Affiliate or not) loading a card, then sending multiple P2P transfers, then charging back the load transaction. This type of fraud is well known in the card industry. The recipient of the P2P then either sends it to another party, via P2P or takes funds from an ATM. We did not discover this type of fraud; however we find a great deal of it in our system. It has been all but eradicated by the measures we have put in place.

We lose fees when we make the restrict use, so we do not take pleasure in doing so. However, we have a long term view of our business and have made the choice to restrict some use, depending on location, load method or other factors, to keep our product and business viable for those that do not defraud our system. As a rule we don?t list any of our reasons or protection measures. Hopefully this has given you some information, while I am sure it won?t make you feel better about restricted use. We are sorry if you have been inconvenienced. Please feel free to email me if you have ideas on how we can protect ourselves better and still allow you the functionality you desire. I am not agreeing to accept any suggestions, just to consider them. We know that we don?t know everything and are willing to listen to reasonable ideas. I may be reached at [email protected]

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04-06-2006, 08:14 AM

send them to me, I'll tell ya if it worked.

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04-06-2006, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Doctor Dre

This will probably affect 5 % of their customers...

we all know epass service is tricky, it kinda sucks and everything, and we still use it. Why ? Because there is no alternative. How can it go down when there is no competition ?

Amen to that but i am also interested in a list of countries
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04-06-2006, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

The countries affected by this is:
Romania
Russia
Latvia
Ukraine
Vietnam
Moldova
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Ups!
when did this happen ?
I sent some money like few hours ago and it worked
I hope it stays that way.

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04-06-2006, 08:16 AM

Well it looks like a lot of those Ukraine designers will be closing shop in the next few months.

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04-06-2006, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by darksoul

Ups!
when did this happen ?
I sent some money like few hours ago and it worked
I hope it stays that way.

Its only time question. No one can say exactly when hiss acc being blocked, lol
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04-06-2006, 09:08 AM

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04-06-2006, 09:19 AM

hope it all works out for you lee

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04-06-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

I think the exodus from Epass is going to begin very shortly.

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Lee

And what is the alternative?

I sent money to my designer in Russia just yesterday from a personal account with no issues. If this changes, well, he will have to get a business account. He deals with many people from GFY and in the adult industry so will have no choice.

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04-06-2006, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by HairToStay

And what is the alternative?

I sent money to my designer in Russia just yesterday from a personal account with no issues. If this changes, well, he will have to get a business account. He deals with many people from GFY and in the adult industry so will have no choice.

No he wont.... YOU will.

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04-06-2006, 09:42 AM

Most likely they are doing it because of the high rates of fraud coming from those countries. Visa considers them very high risk anyway, so why wouldn't epass consider them that way as well?
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04-06-2006, 09:45 AM

Imagine Russia being on a list. I would of never guessed!
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