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03-26-2006, 07:22 AM

That believe the President ordered the attacks so that he could use our military, are you not aware that under the laws of the US and Constitution the President of the United States can order the use of our military to invade any country of his choosing, at any time that he chooses, for any reason that he chooses, without the approval of the Congress or the American people or anyone in the world and without the notification of same except that he must notify the Congress within ninety days from the time that he ordered the use of our military.

Bottom line the President did not have to have a 9/11 to engage our military in Afhganistan or Iraq.

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03-26-2006, 07:25 AM

Wow that is one big long sentence!
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03-26-2006, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Abithefiend

Wow that is one big long sentence!

thanks God he summarised it later ;0

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03-26-2006, 07:28 AM

Charlie Sheen and Ben Aflick did it to promote there up comming movie.
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03-26-2006, 08:41 AM

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That believe the President ordered the attacks so that he could use our military, are you not aware that under the laws of the US and Constitution the President of the United States can order the use of our military to invade any country of his choosing, at any time that he chooses, for any reason that he chooses, without the approval of the Congress or the American people or anyone in the world and without the notification of same except that he must notify the Congress within ninety days from the time that he ordered the use of our military.

Bottom line the President did not have to have a 9/11 to engage our military in Afhganistan or Iraq.

No he cant where did you get that fucking idea. lol
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03-26-2006, 08:44 AM

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No he cant where did you get that fucking idea. lol

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03-26-2006, 08:49 AM

but that wouldn't mean that he had the support of the people to restrict their freedoms.

the best way to control people is through fear. same reason people believe a magic kingdom in the sky awaits them when they die.

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03-26-2006, 09:00 AM

you should see v for vendetta it actually is real similar to what is believed to have been done by the government on 9/11

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03-26-2006, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by chazer

but that wouldn't mean that he had the support of the people to restrict their freedoms.

the best way to control people is through fear. same reason people believe a magic kingdom in the sky awaits them when they die.

pls don't bug their minds that much, they'll black out
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03-26-2006, 09:10 AM

You might want to check your facts before you post stupid shit - like Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and the War Powers Act of 1973 which both lay down the exact requirements the President must follow in wars.

I dont know where you got your misunderstanding of the law but its way off base

Of course every president that has been involved with a war since Truman has neglected to follow the Constitution - most of them got around it by never actually declaring a "war"
Also your "fact" about the time requirements is wrong - if the President does use force he must inform Congress within 48 HOURs and Congress must then either declare a war or disapprove of it within 90 days - again something they havent done but thats just because most Americans are just as misinformed as you are

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03-26-2006, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Linkster

You might want to check your facts before you post stupid shit - like Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and the War Powers Act of 1973 which both lay down the exact requirements the President must follow in wars.
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03-26-2006, 09:29 AM

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That believe the President ordered the attacks so that he could use our military, are you not aware that under the laws of the US and Constitution the President of the United States can order the use of our military to invade any country of his choosing, at any time that he chooses, for any reason that he chooses, without the approval of the Congress or the American people or anyone in the world and without the notification of same except that he must notify the Congress within ninety days from the time that he ordered the use of our military.

Bottom line the President did not have to have a 9/11 to engage our military in Afhganistan or Iraq.

First of all, the conspiracy theories tend to revolve around the belief that he knew about it, had a hand in it or some other variation... not that he ordered it himself. He's way to dumb to order anything himself, much less come up with some organized attack.

Secondly, in case you haven't noticed, Bush doesn't really seem to have much regard for the Constitution, much less it lets him or doesn't let him do.

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03-26-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Linkster

You might want to check your facts before you post stupid shit - like Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and the War Powers Act of 1973 which both lay down the exact requirements the President must follow in wars.

I dont know where you got your misunderstanding of the law but its way off base

Of course every president that has been involved with a war since Truman has neglected to follow the Constitution - most of them got around it by never actually declaring a "war"
Also your "fact" about the time requirements is wrong - if the President does use force he must inform Congress within 48 HOURs and Congress must then either declare a war or disapprove of it within 90 days - again something they havent done but thats just because most Americans are just as misinformed as you are

I am cognizant of Article I Section 8 and I am cognizant of the 1973 "resolution" known as the War Powers Act. The War Powers act is a non binding "resolution" as is the nature of a "resolution". Many constitutional legal scholars believe that the "resolution" is not within the Constitutional powers of Congress and I would assume that is why it was passed as a resolution. Many constitutional scholars maintain that the Congress does not have the power to over ride Article II Section II of the constitution which designates the President to be the Commander in Chief of the military.

Maybe you can point out the "48 HOURS" that the "resolution" states as I cannot seem to find it.

As for me being misinformed, maybe you should rethink that position.
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03-26-2006, 04:55 PM

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03-26-2006, 05:43 PM

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That believe the President ordered the attacks so that he could use our military, are you not aware that under the laws of the US and Constitution the President of the United States can order the use of our military to invade any country of his choosing, at any time that he chooses, for any reason that he chooses, without the approval of the Congress or the American people or anyone in the world and without the notification of same except that he must notify the Congress within ninety days from the time that he ordered the use of our military.

Bottom line the President did not have to have a 9/11 to engage our military in Afhganistan or Iraq.

Yea but you don't go to war for fun just like that... you gotta have "reasons".

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03-26-2006, 05:47 PM

It's always better to have the support of a people behind you. Plus...he needed to win the next election. DUR!!!!!!!!!! HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MORON!!!!! RE-ELECTION??????????????

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03-26-2006, 08:57 PM

That was very long!

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03-26-2006, 09:32 PM

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I am cognizant of Article I Section 8 and I am cognizant of the 1973 "resolution" known as the War Powers Act. The War Powers act is a non binding "resolution" as is the nature of a "resolution". Many constitutional legal scholars believe that the "resolution" is not within the Constitutional powers of Congress and I would assume that is why it was passed as a resolution. Many constitutional scholars maintain that the Congress does not have the power to over ride Article II Section II of the constitution which designates the President to be the Commander in Chief of the military.

Maybe you can point out the "48 HOURS" that the "resolution" states as I cannot seem to find it.

As for me being misinformed, maybe you should rethink that position.

The key word is "war". Only the congress can declare war.. The President can use the military though. i.e. North Korea etc. were "police actions". Thus congress passed the War Acts Resolution. It's true that it may be unconstitutional, however evey president to date has followed it while at the same time wording things in such as way as to not agree that it's constituational. There are also legal scholars that feel that any military action taken without congressional approval is unconstituational but that hasn't been resolved either.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/warpower.htm
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/...w/warpower.htm

Section 4 contains the 48 hour part.
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03-28-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Tempest

The key word is "war". Only the congress can declare war.. The President can use the military though. i.e. North Korea etc. were "police actions". Thus congress passed the War Acts Resolution. It's true that it may be unconstitutional, however evey president to date has followed it while at the same time wording things in such as way as to not agree that it's constituational. There are also legal scholars that feel that any military action taken without congressional approval is unconstituational but that hasn't been resolved either.

Section 4 contains the 48 hour part.

I saw the reference to 48 hours but I do not read it as being the President has to report within 48 hours.
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03-28-2006, 05:53 PM

Regardless of the fine print...
A war of aggression is illegal.. and this was/is a war of aggression..
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03-28-2006, 06:02 PM

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Charlie Sheen and Ben Aflick did it to promote there up comming movie.

I think you came close to setting the record for most spelling errors in one sentence, on an errors-per-number-of-words ratio.

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03-28-2006, 06:23 PM

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That believe the President ordered the attacks so that he could use our military, are you not aware that under the laws of the US and Constitution the President of the United States can order the use of our military to invade any country of his choosing, at any time that he chooses, for any reason that he chooses, without the approval of the Congress or the American people or anyone in the world and without the notification of same except that he must notify the Congress within ninety days from the time that he ordered the use of our military.

Bottom line the President did not have to have a 9/11 to engage our military in Afhganistan or Iraq.

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03-28-2006, 06:32 PM

We declared a "War on terror!"

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03-28-2006, 06:38 PM

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That believe the President ordered the attacks so that he could use our military, are you not aware that under the laws of the US and Constitution the President of the United States can order the use of our military to invade any country of his choosing, at any time that he chooses, for any reason that he chooses, without the approval of the Congress or the American people or anyone in the world and without the notification of same except that he must notify the Congress within ninety days from the time that he ordered the use of our military.

Bottom line the President did not have to have a 9/11 to engage our military in Afhganistan or Iraq.

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