Which sponsors are known for shaving?
 

Hi all,

Before accusing anyone, I was thinking that if you know any sponsor who are disabling from time to time one's sign-ups, to let others know that... it'll be helpfull! It's just that you are trying hard to build up a good relationship with the sponsor and to send good, quality traffic and all of a sudden, the sponsor is taking away your money... WTF???:disgust

Speaking of this... DOES PIMPROLL SHAVE? For example, the period between February 1st-28th, the conversion was ~1:250, after March 1st, 0(zero):5000!!!:eyecrazy

Pimroll, please explain.

Thanks.

Vanbest

That's not a good way to make your 1st post here..

Drama ... btw, Gillette shaves.

you should've asked the reverse question.
most sponsors shave one way or another.

http://www.CuriousCash.com shaves !!!!!

It's boys.

;-)

Drama indeed...! I don't think anyone likes that, it's good to know anyway. Thanks. So you don't think Pimproll is shaving? What's the matter than?

Pick one. Any one.

"between February 1st-28th, the conversion was ~1:250"

how many sales during that period?

It's sad... You're busting your ass out to make things happen and don't have any kind of control... is it so hard to run an honest business partnership?

Vanbest

LOOOOL!:winkwink:

Around 20-ish... I repeat, they used to act great, I was only asking them, not accusing.

IF, i write IF, they would shave like this. Well, it would be very stupid. Cant imagine a sponsor would cut 20 sales in a period to zero.. :]

Well now you know your ratio for a month period is 1:500. Estimate your value/click based on the payout you are receiving and stick with these data.

Yes, it varies, the data I was talking about was from February, imagine that on previous months it was better... Based on the traffic sent, I had waaaay better ratios.. that's why I don't understand why are they doing this....

Anyone you know that might give a shout to pimproll?

Thanks

Considering they shave, right? That is my question, too!! Why would they? When you're used with a certain ratio/conversion and all of a sudden it's going down the drain, you start asking questions...

Thanks

There's all kinds of reasons why a sponsor might shave.

For example, (and i don't use the sponsor in question so this is nothing more than a generic piss in the wind) let's say you sent 20 sales and 18 of them charged back. The sponsor has one of two choices - cancel your account and blacklist you from signing up with anything that could ever affect their account again, or place your account on hold and monitor it.

Maybe you only had 10 chargebacks, or maybe none, I have no idea.

Maybe they didn't do a thing, and your traffic changed - is it still coming from the same place?

Maybe it IS coming from the same place, and all the surfers who were going to sign up did, and you need to start sending them to another sponsor, because the current one is no longer tripping their trigger.

And as always, like it has been said many times before - skimming is part of this business. Count your own clicks, calculate how much you make per click, and choose your sponsors that way, not based on ratios.

Of course, 0:5000 could be a fluke, it happens every now and then.

just because a sponsor one period converts and another period it turns shit, dosnt mean they shave, can just be your unlucky that your surfers dont wanna buy

porncash

vanbest, why don't you hit me up on support ICQ 245-666-586 and give me your account number and I'll look through it and see if I can give you some insight. Or post it here if you want to and I'll post my response in the same public forum you chose, lol.

Either way, I'm here to help you so take advantage.

See Sig :glugglug

I don't believe PR shaves. I will say March has been crap though. Maybe it's spring break. Maybe by the end of the month things wil even out.

who knows...

That a very cool theory, thanks. It would've been great to know that, I could've check thoroughly my trades. So? I should wait to see some sign-ups or what? Any Pimproll guys around?

Yeah, lot of my friends are complaining about poor conversions.... Although the traffic increased, the sign-ups are down the drain....:Oh crap

correction:

Yeah, lot of my friends are complaining about poor conversions from various sponsors.... Although the traffic increased, the sign-ups are down the drain....:Oh crap It might be the "printemps"... LOL!

Hi Pr_Tom,

I guess you're the right guy I need... I'll hit you on icq, thanks.

:1orglaugh

yea, I'm down almost 50% for march across the board. Doesnt matter what sponsor it is, they all seem to not be converting as well this month :(

Yep, ICQ is on our Contacts page. :pimp

My personal sales are *slightly* down from last month BTW, but nothing insurmountable or catastrophic by any means whatsoever.
I do notice more competition where my traffic is from, so it's a more active battle you might say.

could be processor related if you're seeing it across the board.

give some of our merchant processed sites a try like http://www.honeyifuckedthebabysitter.com/01/

we control the scrub there :)

Porn Is Bad...

i dont have great ratios at PR either, but sometimes i have periods with really crappy ratios (for instance last period 1:4000, 1 sale) Most of the traffic comes from old free sites....
Its the only sponsor out of appr. 15 sponsors with these kinda ratios.

Havent had a sale at pimproll this month either. Looks really bad. They should fix all those broken galleries in their members areas.

The thing with PimpRoll is that we have 300 sites or so. So if you send 20 clicks to each of 300 sites without a sale, you will show a 0:6000 ratio.

Thats basically the case. The most uniques to any one site would put the ratio into the "normal" level with only a couple of sales.

I very often take a look and find that it's only a few hundred uniques at the most per site, which is an important difference.

What broken galleries? Can you give me an example please and I'll get it fixed immediately!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It's weird man... you should get better ratios, they are converting great for me, at least, some of their sites... overall, I am happy with them, it was only from the beginning of March that sales dropped and that is my concern...if you have 2 (or more) sponsors on the same page and one goes to zero, maybe there's cause to be suspiscious ( as a friend of mine said)

Usually when I see a thread like this.

The poster is a NEWB.

They send 10 hits to each of 300 sites and complain about 1 in 3000 ratios.

DOES PIMPROLL SHAVE?

FUCK NO.