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FreeOnes 03-02-2006 01:53 AM

Cool Nats features !? (bizz thread)
 
A cool NATS feature would be to get the right hosted gallery codes in your email box, instead of the decoded ones of the wrong program.

What's the use of getting all codes in my mailbox of all new hosted galleries in the Pay Per Sale Console program if I want the codes of the Revshare Program Console Free?

In most affiliate programs it's very difficult to find ONLY the NEWEST hosted galleries. Therefore such a feature would be really great. If you can save your preferences somewhere it should be really easy to develop this.

Furthermore it isn't possible right now to export all hosted galleries in an affiliate program of different sites at once. Some affiliate programs have like 20 sites in their portfolio. It takes a shit load of time to export them 1 by 1.

So what do you think of my suggestions?

Anyone else have any other suggestions?

Nathan 03-02-2006 02:06 AM

Hi,

thanks for the suggestion. We are definately extending the mailing system even more in v3.1, so I can probably add it then.

Regarding the export for more than one site... I think there is a way already with a seperate system, let me verify that and I'll let you know.

various 03-02-2006 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
Furthermore it isn't possible right now to export all hosted galleries in an affiliate program of different sites at once. Some affiliate programs have like 20 sites in their portfolio. It takes a shit load of time to export them 1 by 1.

I agree, NATS are really missing some very important features from the affiliates point of view...at least in the hosted gallery section.

Also could you please fix the "Hosted Ad Tools" export feature...it's annoying as hell that you don't use a cookie/session to remember the export format. Now you need to change all those drop-down menus every time you want to export some data.


:Oh crap

cheeks 03-02-2006 08:33 AM

NATS is working hard on implementing solid features, specially for FHG system.

Juggcash wants to implement many things in our FHG system, and IM sure we will be able to do that in the upcoming months with NATS...

FreeOnes 03-02-2006 03:36 PM

and RSS feeds of hosted gals is very welcome too ;)

$5 submissions 03-02-2006 03:42 PM

Great suggestions. Specially the RSS feeds one.

boldy 03-02-2006 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
A cool NATS feature would be to get the right hosted gallery codes in your email box, instead of the decoded ones of the wrong program.

What's the use of getting all codes in my mailbox of all new hosted galleries in the Pay Per Sale Console program if I want the codes of the Revshare Program Console Free?

In most affiliate programs it's very difficult to find ONLY the NEWEST hosted galleries. Therefore such a feature would be really great. If you can save your preferences somewhere it should be really easy to develop this.

Furthermore it isn't possible right now to export all hosted galleries in an affiliate program of different sites at once. Some affiliate programs have like 20 sites in their portfolio. It takes a shit load of time to export them 1 by 1.

So what do you think of my suggestions?

Anyone else have any other suggestions?


Dont you have a house to build ?

FreeOnes 08-24-2006 01:39 PM

bump r di bump

Roald 08-24-2006 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
bump r di bump

Geez go to bed! :2 cents:

Holly Lez! 08-24-2006 01:48 PM

Great suggestions! BTW I love Freeones! Hope to see you guys in Amsterdam!

MyNameIsNobody 08-24-2006 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
Furthermore it isn't possible right now to export all hosted galleries in an affiliate program of different sites at once. Some affiliate programs have like 20 sites in their portfolio. It takes a shit load of time to export them 1 by 1.

AdultInnovators.com provide you with the option to download all FHG's at once within a selected niche. Consequently you can export all the FHG's under "Blowjob" at once, and all the FHG's for "hardcore" at once, cumshot, mix etc.

That's 4 steps to export all the FHG's. :thumbsup

boldy 08-24-2006 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes
A cool NATS feature would be to get the right hosted gallery codes in your email box, instead of the decoded ones of the wrong program.

What's the use of getting all codes in my mailbox of all new hosted galleries in the Pay Per Sale Console program if I want the codes of the Revshare Program Console Free?

In most affiliate programs it's very difficult to find ONLY the NEWEST hosted galleries. Therefore such a feature would be really great. If you can save your preferences somewhere it should be really easy to develop this.

Furthermore it isn't possible right now to export all hosted galleries in an affiliate program of different sites at once. Some affiliate programs have like 20 sites in their portfolio. It takes a shit load of time to export them 1 by 1.

So what do you think of my suggestions?

Anyone else have any other suggestions?


Shut up .. you're bitching again ... :Oh crap

GoNe 08-24-2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNameIsNobody
AdultInnovators.com provide you with the option to download all FHG's at once within a selected niche. Consequently you can export all the FHG's under "Blowjob" at once, and all the FHG's for "hardcore" at once, cumshot, mix etc.

That's 4 steps to export all the FHG's. :thumbsup

:thumbsup

AI is runing on nats but we have customized the entire promo tools section. You guys should have a look for yourself it's kick ass and we are working on on some really new cool features. :)


http://www.adultinnovators.com :thumbsup

Dirty D 08-24-2006 03:16 PM

Good suggestions, Maurice!

See you and Roald in Amsterdam soon

Reak AGV 08-24-2006 03:23 PM

Hello Maurice,

In fact you can dump all FHGs at once and not only per site by using the following url (once logged in), http://www.programurl.com/adtools_ad...standalone.php

Works pretty much for all NATS programs!

Hope that helps mate,

:)

MsWild 08-25-2006 07:48 PM

Thanks for the great suggestions :thumbsup

FreeOnes 04-20-2007 07:22 AM

Still waiting for the updates more than 1 year later

FreeOnes 07-29-2007 01:44 PM

bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump!

RAM 07-29-2007 01:46 PM

my honest feeling is that it's a joke that NATS is considerd a industry standard...just MHO

Ray@TastyDollars 07-29-2007 02:13 PM

Im not sure about Unencoded or coded but the program is very doable. For example, we send our mailer with the standard 60% no exit, in our case that is program 2, if we were to send 90% with exits that would be program 23.

The code looks like this

gallery.com/?{$nats_code[2][14]}

2 = 60%
14 = bridesonbalcks


or

gallery.com/?{$nats_code[23][14]}

23 = 90%
14 = bridesonbalcks

from NATS

{$nats_code[p][s]}

p & s both need to be replaced. p should be replaced with a valid program id and s should be replaced with a valid site id. If the values of p or s do not exist or do not exist for a particuler user (i.e. they are not in that program), nothing will be written to the email body.

RAM 07-29-2007 02:30 PM

this post is more then a year old and no real response to the question....Industry Standard at it's best !!!

jonesonyou 07-29-2007 02:33 PM

that would be cool.

RAM 07-29-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesonyou (Post 12839623)
that would be cool.

yes but has been more then a year in the waiting :helpme

Argoz 07-29-2007 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 9379223)
Hi,

thanks for the suggestion. We are definately extending the mailing system even more in v3.1, so I can probably add it then.

Regarding the export for more than one site... I think there is a way already with a seperate system, let me verify that and I'll let you know.

When are you planning to launch the v3.1?

TMM_John 07-29-2007 05:21 PM

Freeones, who is telling you this isn't doable yet?

RAM, lots of bashing without getting your facts straight. Thanks!

TheDoc 07-29-2007 05:34 PM

RAM, not one affiliate backend is perfect, not one offers every feature correctly in the first shot, and nats isn't able to focus on one thing from one owner. They can only add in 'everything' every program owner wants and every webmaster wants so fast..

You can mail ref-codes with nats, mayors money has been doing it for a long time. It isn't the most customizable part of the program, but it can be done, and it has slowly being improved.

v3.1 is out, 4 is just around the corner.

Gallery dumps can be done per site and not currently over all sites, not a big missing feature, not every program it but it is one that can be added in as well as nats is adding it too.

Roald 07-30-2007 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 12840159)
Freeones, who is telling you this isn't doable yet?

RAM, lots of bashing without getting your facts straight. Thanks!

John, than why isn't this used by any of the sponsors in our system? We never receive the correct linkingcodes for FHGs, nor can I download all FHGs for all sites in a program at once.

So the question is, is it doable for the program but do they have to manually set this up? Cause I am sure if this can not be done automatically no one is going to use it....right?

As for getting all (new)FHGs for multiple sites in 1 program, can not find that feature either so is this a new feature no one is using yet or am I just overlooking it?

Just wondering as you are saying it is doable but not giving any more info.

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 12:54 AM

Nats is the industry standard coz you can rent it for peanuts.

:2 cents:

BV 07-30-2007 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes (Post 9383156)
and RSS feeds of hosted gals is very welcome too ;)


http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/seesig.gif

RAM 07-30-2007 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 12840159)
Freeones, who is telling you this isn't doable yet?

RAM, lots of bashing without getting your facts straight. Thanks!

Your right and sorry to sound negative. Your program really is the best one out at this time. :thumbsup

The Ghost 07-30-2007 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 12841488)
Nats is the industry standard coz you can rent it for peanuts.

:2 cents:

It's only peanuts if you're not making sales. Most sites do not profit enough to pay the extra $150-$1000 month for the NATS lease price.

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 12841510)
It's only peanuts if you're not making sales. Most sites do not profit enough to pay the extra $150-$1000 month for the NATS lease price.

If you're making sales you don't WANT to lease it anymore you'd buy it. But
then again with really high volume traffic you'd buy something different than
Nats :winkwink:

The Ghost 07-30-2007 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 12841516)
If you're making sales you don't WANT to lease it anymore you'd buy it. But
then again with really high volume traffic you'd buy something different than
Nats :winkwink:

Well plenty of high volume programs are CCBill only, so in theory you don't really need to buy anything.

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 12841732)
Well plenty of high volume programs are CCBill only, so in theory you don't really need to buy anything.

I wasn't talking about CCbill, I was talking about high traffic volumes + Nats
and high volume sales + leasing Nats. :winkwink:

The Ghost 07-30-2007 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 12841737)
I wasn't talking about CCbill, I was talking about high traffic volumes + Nats
and high volume sales + leasing Nats. :winkwink:

Most of the industry is short sighted/funded and would never have the funds to put down $12k-$20k for a software (or any) purchase. Many won't have the extra $150-$1k a month to lease any software. The percentage of programs doing high volume of sales is way smaller than most people realize.

The point I was trying to make (and failed miserably lol) is that any extra expenditure for most programs is difficult to do and it is easier/cheaper to do without them entirely (regardless of leasing/purchasing question). Case in point is there's 100's of programs using Nats (under 400?), and 10's of thousands of programs (or more) using the CCBill/Epoch/Verotel provided scripts.


I don't know how many programs use the other often mentioned scripts (MPA3, Partnersoft/clickman/ Monolith/Executivestats/Truestats,/Ultimate Affiliate/IdevAffiliate/RSclickthru/Traffic Farmer/custom/etc), since it's not often advertised that using those is a program feature to affiliates. I'm sure they are great scripts nonetheless. You're right, if you (program) are doing heavy sales and certain that you won't be switching scripts and have long term goals, purchasing is the best option. Providing the software company will be around to support the product.

FreeOnes 07-30-2007 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 12841466)
John, than why isn't this used by any of the sponsors in our system? We never receive the correct linkingcodes for FHGs, nor can I download all FHGs for all sites in a program at once.

So the question is, is it doable for the program but do they have to manually set this up? Cause I am sure if this can not be done automatically no one is going to use it....right?

As for getting all (new)FHGs for multiple sites in 1 program, can not find that feature either so is this a new feature no one is using yet or am I just overlooking it?

Just wondering as you are saying it is doable but not giving any more info.

bump for an answer

SiMpLe 07-30-2007 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes (Post 12843675)
bump for an answer

I still need to get my passport :upsidedow

TheDoc 07-30-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 12841466)
John, than why isn't this used by any of the sponsors in our system? We never receive the correct linkingcodes for FHGs, nor can I download all FHGs for all sites in a program at once.

So the question is, is it doable for the program but do they have to manually set this up? Cause I am sure if this can not be done automatically no one is going to use it....right?

As for getting all (new)FHGs for multiple sites in 1 program, can not find that feature either so is this a new feature no one is using yet or am I just overlooking it?

Just wondering as you are saying it is doable but not giving any more info.

Linking codes, FHG's in emails currently works, it just isn't that customizable. The solution to the problem was posted above by someone else. Mayors Money currently does this, and the correct ID's come through the emails.

Doable, doesn't mean done. Anything in nats is doable, any idea, just about any theory. Someone, could code a script that does this.. But I recommend waiting until v4 to see how much NATS adds to the gallery dump feature.

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes (Post 12843675)
bump for an answer

I never would have guessed you could be so cruel....:winkwink:
Unless I completely misjudged your bump and motive of it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

p.s. The nicer and more honest people look quite often the meaner and
tougher they are to deal with :winkwink:

You and Roald are a perfect match based on that theory.....my guess this
observation is 1 of the key ingredients that added to your success...and
I mean that as an compliment to both of you :thumbsup

I know several people without a shadow of a doubt have benefited greatly
by the fact that people underestimated too quickly by judging them primarily
based on appearance and looks......shit this sounds like I'm saying that you
look like an idiot.....which is not what I'm trying to say......:1orglaugh

shit how am I gonna safe myself from this one.......ahh i know....I mean
that some people may think you guys are too good/nice or even too soft
which will bite them in the ass and make them realize very quickly that
their opinion was quite far from being right :helpme

did this work well enough for not thinking that I'm trying to insult both of you?
if not I'll make it up with buying you booze and calling you bro the next
occasion we'll meet. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Indecent 07-30-2007 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeOnes (Post 12843675)
bump for an answer

Hey QuaShe,

If you are logged into a program that uses NATS, go to this page:

adtools_adv_hosted_standalone.php

So in IncredibleDollars, you'd go here:

Code:

http://www.incredibledollars.com/adtools_adv_hosted_standalone.php
This tool allows you to download galleries from ALL of the sites, as well as filter out the newest galleries (Past Week, Past 2 Weeks, Past Month, etc.)

This is a great tool that I just found out about, honestly.

Let me know if you have any more questions, this should work for any NATS affiliate program.

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12843732)
Linking codes, FHG's in emails currently works, it just isn't that customizable. The solution to the problem was posted above by someone else. Mayors Money currently does this, and the correct ID's come through the emails.

Doable, doesn't mean done. Anything in nats is doable, any idea, just about any theory. Someone, could code a script that does this.. But I recommend waiting until v4 to see how much NATS adds to the gallery dump feature.

you hit the nail on the hat....but at the same time i think that his whole point
was more that nobody seems to know and use the possibility to do it. Especially
that you would think that this is something that a lot of programs would like
to do if they knew they could and/or how to do it.

It's something I run into a lot of times....documentation from third party
software seems always to be at least 3 versions behind....anything before
a third version usually comes with no manual at all.......Every single coder
I know hates documenting his stuff...they're either too busy, too lazy, or
simply can't realize that others don't understand their shit like them by
just looking at it.......the worst ones though are the ones that refuse to
document anything because without it they feel that their position is more
powerfull as without them to ask stuff their software would be useless
when it doesn't have a manual to go with it..... :thumbsup

Another reason may be they just keep bumping it simply for the fact that
even after a year they didn't get an answer which doesn't look too good
from a company that has the quite an important role and position for
so many people and programs that uses their software.......

My guess it's a mix of both.....but that's just my best guess :Oh crap

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indecent (Post 12843838)
Hey QuaShe,

If you are logged into a program that uses NATS, go to this page:

adtools_adv_hosted_standalone.php

So in IncredibleDollars, you'd go here:

Code:

http://www.incredibledollars.com/adtools_adv_hosted_standalone.php
This tool allows you to download galleries from ALL of the sites, as well as filter out the newest galleries (Past Week, Past 2 Weeks, Past Month, etc.)

This is a great tool that I just found out about, honestly.

Let me know if you have any more questions, this should work for any NATS affiliate program.

i'd tell TMM about this too so they can inform their clients about this and/or
add it to their knowledge base or faq :winkwink:

TheDoc 07-30-2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indecent (Post 12843838)
This tool allows you to download galleries from ALL of the sites, as well as filter out the newest galleries (Past Week, Past 2 Weeks, Past Month, etc.)

Other than the date sort, which I think can be added to the dump template, this is the same tool as the master gallery dump. With both you have to set the site and program.

I think, people are wanting a one click type option, select a program and get gallery codes for every site.

TheDoc 07-30-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 12843899)
add it to their knowledge base or faq :winkwink:

http://kb.getnats.com/idx/0/338/arti...or_a_site.html

TMM_John 07-30-2007 01:04 PM

Doc,

Don't bother with ServerGenius. He seems to like to bash us left & right to try to drum up business for himself. He seems to be turning it up a notch lately too. Its kind of like the MCSE guys who knock Microsoft yet sell people their services. If thats what he needs to do I can live with it.

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 12844136)
Doc,

Don't bother with ServerGenius. He seems to like to bash us left & right to try to drum up business for himself. He seems to be turning it up a notch lately too. Its kind of like the MCSE guys who knock Microsoft yet sell people their services. If thats what he needs to do I can live with it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you're very much mistaken Sir. I have nothing
against you or your products. I don't have business that competes with yours
so I have no interest or benefit bashing you or your products. It seems you
have a problem with anything anyone says or thinks about your products.

In fact it's rather the opposite. I have several clients that use your products
which means I work with it and know a thing or two about it. The better your
products are the easier and better it is for my business too. So if i gave you
the idea that I'm trying to bash your products than I assure right now that
that is a misunderstanding.

I'm actually working on something that could benefit your products instead
of hurting them. I'm doing this for my clients I would be more than happy
once it's ready to give it for free to you without any restrictions. If you
think some of your clients regardless if their also a client of my could benefit
from it could use it you're free todo so.....if you think it's crap just let me
know and delete it...I have no problem with that either.

If you consider my opinions or question I raise about your or other products
as a personal attack or ploy to gain personal benefit then you really are
wrong. If I make wrong or false statements please correct me and proof
me wrong.....it's possible that I'm wrong or mistaken at times as well.
Anything I mention is based on personal experience and if anything I only
address them so they can be improved.

Please show any of my posts where I say your software sucks and that
people shouldn't be using it....I'm sure I've never said something like that.
Today I posted a long post that basically the advantages of leasing or
buying third party software instead of developing something like affiliate
software in house from scratch.

I consider Nats and even Carma amongst the less than a handfull products
that are worth buying/leasing even if someone was capable of developing
something similar themselves as apart from a few disadvantages it has
for example the fact that instead of making something optimized and designed
for just doing the things that 1 company may need would be more efficient
than something like nats which is build to do all the different things that any
company would want which I'm sure you agree is a lot more complex as building
something fit for the requirements that a single company would want.

But that doesn't outweigh the benefits of still using your software because
for example that your software is improved and more secure because having
such amount of different people using it and analyzing all the data that
provided is worth imho than going through the process of trial and error
yourself before it would even come close to the quality of products like
yours.

So no I'm not out to bash you, no I don't have any benefit or personal gain
by doing so, Yes I consider your products amongst the top3 available in it's
kind......but if asked if it's perfect and if there's no room for improvement
then I say no..software is never perfect and never will be as long as it's
being used...there's ALWAYS room for improvement mainly because the
more it's being used the more people will try somehow to see if it can be
abuses....and especially that fact is one of many things that gives you the
edge...as it enables you guys to discover and adjust any weaknesses much
faster than someone who is a miniscule fraction of data to work with.

Whether you think I'm an asshole or not doesn't bother me at all....I just
wanted to explain that your opinion regarding anything I have said wasn't
meant to bash you or your business....if you think it is then that's fine with
me as by now I can be sure that it can't be caused by a misunderstanding.
I've noticed similar responses to others as well when anything about your
products was discussed.....seriously you should be happy that people talk
about it even if it's critical coz apart from the trolls and idiots it means
nothing more than that people care and question any concerns of problems
they experience which helps you to react quickly on it by either solving those
people their problems either by explaining them if they do something wrong,
informing them about features or methods they weren't aware off or worst
case to fix things when it really turns out to be something software wise
that causes errors or danger for getting exploited.

People who really believe your products suck don't use it and don't care
discussing it or any of it's problems as they simply wouldn't care. People
who have no other interest than bashing your products without solid
arguments or accusations made on thin air won't change the minds of anyone
that uses your products or is serious interested in becoming your clients. Any
of those educate themselves on a lot more and other information than by just
deciding not to use you because a few people post on GFY that you are
ugly as hell and that your software is shit because of that......if anyone
would really base his decision on that you're probably better off without
them anyway as people who have no clue what they buy and what to
expect are the ones that give you headaches and drive you nuts time after
time when having to try explain them the problem is their ignorance instead
of your product.

If you would have contacted me directly I wouldn't have posted this shit
here but since you mistakingly accused me publically and implying that I'm
trying to benefit myself by bashing and attempting to hurt your business
I decided to reply here in case other people misunderstood me too just
like you....

No offense meant and I hope this cleared up your opinion about me. If it
doesn't than I'm sorry about it but then I know I explained my intentions
and be sure that your opinion isn't based on a simple misunderstanding.
Feel free to contact me if you feel like it to answer or correct me in case
you feel I'm mistaking on something I have said. I'm open for discussion
or correction of any kind as long as I'm treated respectfully regardless if
we agree or not.

One last time...nothing in this post nor previous ones was intended in
any way you accused me for....if you show me wrong I'll gladly rectify
and apologize here publically for doing so.

:thumbsup

ServerGenius 07-30-2007 03:25 PM

shit I have to figure out a way to get paid per word i post instead of by amount of posts I make :1orglaugh

TMM_John 07-30-2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 12844843)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you're very much mistaken Sir. I have nothing
against you or your products. I don't have business that competes with yours
so I have no interest or benefit bashing you or your products. It seems you
have a problem with anything anyone says or thinks about your products.

In fact it's rather the opposite. I have several clients that use your products
which means I work with it and know a thing or two about it. The better your
products are the easier and better it is for my business too. So if i gave you
the idea that I'm trying to bash your products than I assure right now that
that is a misunderstanding.

I'm actually working on something that could benefit your products instead
of hurting them. I'm doing this for my clients I would be more than happy
once it's ready to give it for free to you without any restrictions. If you
think some of your clients regardless if their also a client of my could benefit
from it could use it you're free todo so.....if you think it's crap just let me
know and delete it...I have no problem with that either.

If you consider my opinions or question I raise about your or other products
as a personal attack or ploy to gain personal benefit then you really are
wrong. If I make wrong or false statements please correct me and proof
me wrong.....it's possible that I'm wrong or mistaken at times as well.
Anything I mention is based on personal experience and if anything I only
address them so they can be improved.

Please show any of my posts where I say your software sucks and that
people shouldn't be using it....I'm sure I've never said something like that.
Today I posted a long post that basically the advantages of leasing or
buying third party software instead of developing something like affiliate
software in house from scratch.

I consider Nats and even Carma amongst the less than a handfull products
that are worth buying/leasing even if someone was capable of developing
something similar themselves as apart from a few disadvantages it has
for example the fact that instead of making something optimized and designed
for just doing the things that 1 company may need would be more efficient
than something like nats which is build to do all the different things that any
company would want which I'm sure you agree is a lot more complex as building
something fit for the requirements that a single company would want.

But that doesn't outweigh the benefits of still using your software because
for example that your software is improved and more secure because having
such amount of different people using it and analyzing all the data that
provided is worth imho than going through the process of trial and error
yourself before it would even come close to the quality of products like
yours.

So no I'm not out to bash you, no I don't have any benefit or personal gain
by doing so, Yes I consider your products amongst the top3 available in it's
kind......but if asked if it's perfect and if there's no room for improvement
then I say no..software is never perfect and never will be as long as it's
being used...there's ALWAYS room for improvement mainly because the
more it's being used the more people will try somehow to see if it can be
abuses....and especially that fact is one of many things that gives you the
edge...as it enables you guys to discover and adjust any weaknesses much
faster than someone who is a miniscule fraction of data to work with.

Whether you think I'm an asshole or not doesn't bother me at all....I just
wanted to explain that your opinion regarding anything I have said wasn't
meant to bash you or your business....if you think it is then that's fine with
me as by now I can be sure that it can't be caused by a misunderstanding.
I've noticed similar responses to others as well when anything about your
products was discussed.....seriously you should be happy that people talk
about it even if it's critical coz apart from the trolls and idiots it means
nothing more than that people care and question any concerns of problems
they experience which helps you to react quickly on it by either solving those
people their problems either by explaining them if they do something wrong,
informing them about features or methods they weren't aware off or worst
case to fix things when it really turns out to be something software wise
that causes errors or danger for getting exploited.

People who really believe your products suck don't use it and don't care
discussing it or any of it's problems as they simply wouldn't care. People
who have no other interest than bashing your products without solid
arguments or accusations made on thin air won't change the minds of anyone
that uses your products or is serious interested in becoming your clients. Any
of those educate themselves on a lot more and other information than by just
deciding not to use you because a few people post on GFY that you are
ugly as hell and that your software is shit because of that......if anyone
would really base his decision on that you're probably better off without
them anyway as people who have no clue what they buy and what to
expect are the ones that give you headaches and drive you nuts time after
time when having to try explain them the problem is their ignorance instead
of your product.

If you would have contacted me directly I wouldn't have posted this shit
here but since you mistakingly accused me publically and implying that I'm
trying to benefit myself by bashing and attempting to hurt your business
I decided to reply here in case other people misunderstood me too just
like you....

No offense meant and I hope this cleared up your opinion about me. If it
doesn't than I'm sorry about it but then I know I explained my intentions
and be sure that your opinion isn't based on a simple misunderstanding.
Feel free to contact me if you feel like it to answer or correct me in case
you feel I'm mistaking on something I have said. I'm open for discussion
or correction of any kind as long as I'm treated respectfully regardless if
we agree or not.

One last time...nothing in this post nor previous ones was intended in
any way you accused me for....if you show me wrong I'll gladly rectify
and apologize here publically for doing so.

:thumbsup

I didn't even read all of this. I know you work with our products as I've heard Mike M. mention you several times. That is why I found it so odd you take all the little stabs at us for silly things.

I have no problem with people making constructive comments about our software. Recognizing our faults and correcting them is what has gotten us to where we are today.

I stopped paying attention to you when I noticed you take all the little jabs you could at us whenever you could such as the copyright date on our site. The silly little comments are a waste of time.

TMM_John 07-30-2007 09:47 PM

With I didn't read it I should also so I will in the morning. Just got in from a night out (for once) and not going to spend the rest of it on here :)

Roald 07-30-2007 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12843732)
Linking codes, FHG's in emails currently works, it just isn't that customizable. The solution to the problem was posted above by someone else. Mayors Money currently does this, and the correct ID's come through the emails.

Just checked a MM email and allthough they might send the correct settings (pps, console free, etc) they don't send me UNencoded codes wich we have as a setting! So the whole email is still useless as we always use UNencoded nats codes. So that would be another thing to add to the todo list I asume?


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12843732)
Doable, doesn't mean done. Anything in nats is doable, any idea, just about any theory. Someone, could code a script that does this.. But I recommend waiting until v4 to see how much NATS adds to the gallery dump feature.

See thats exactly what I mean, you say it is doable but you aren't saying anythign else. So you can do it but its not done yet? Meaning its not ready yet so basically thats a no on this option right?

Don't get me wrong just trying to work with the system and trying to give some ideas wich woudl be very handy for more webmasters.


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