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BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 12:02 PM

Question for the Gurus about NATS
 
Does NATS use cookies? If so how are they an adjustable exp length?
:winkwink:

newbreed 02-27-2006 12:09 PM

By default the cookie holding reseller identification is stored for 10 days. You can change that setting by editing config.php in nats/includes and setting $config['NATS_COOKIE_EXPIRE'] to the value in seconds it should expire in. 10*86400 is the default (10 days)

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
By default the cookie holding reseller identification is stored for 10 days. You can change that setting by editing config.php in nats/includes and setting $config['NATS_COOKIE_EXPIRE'] to the value in seconds it should expire in. 10*86400 is the default (10 days)

Thanks NB .... so what would this mean to you?

Send For : Any type of connection
Expires : at end of session

newbreed 02-27-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy
Thanks NB .... so what would this mean to you?

Send For : Any type of connection
Expires : at end of session

In general, that last line appears to instruct the cookie to expire when the session is done, like if the browser is shut down. It depends on where that specific line came from though.

For example if it's for the affiliate or admin login in area, I would want the session to close as soon as I closed my browser so there was not an open session floating around. But if someone has that for the affiliate sales links, well, not good I guess...

It's possible a global (server) setting could be overiding the nats install instructions, so check that first.

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
In general, that last line appears to instruct the cookie to expire when the session is done, like if the browser is shut down. It depends on where that specific line came from though.

For example if it's for the affiliate or admin login in area, I would want the session to close as soon as I closed my browser so there was not an open session floating around. But if someone has that for the affiliate sales links, well, not good I guess...

It's possible a global (server) setting could be overiding the nats install instructions, so check that first.

Gotcha... Yeah, when I close an admin session I want it to close at the end of the session.

If it's a surfer directed link, I want it to NOT CLOSE on session... eg, Mom walks in, surfer closes browser.... reopens and signs up.

That was a NATS link from a sponsor BTW. Can you hit me with a NATS link that should show 10 days expiration?

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 12:34 PM

Or link? Anyone?:thumbsup

newbreed 02-27-2006 12:38 PM

This is one from Arika's site, but I haven't been in it for weeks/months looking at the config, so it could have changed since then...

http://www.arikaames.com/tour/?nats=NDozOjE

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
This is one from Arika's site, but I haven't been in it for weeks/months looking at the config, so it could have changed since then...

http://www.arikaames.com/tour/?nats=NDozOjE

Thats odd... Fierefox shows me no cookie at all for that link.

newbreed 02-27-2006 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy
Thats odd... Fierefox shows me no cookie at all for that link.

I just logged in and pulled the first link there, I don't know what's been changed in that admin in the last few weeks or if that site is still even tracking anymore.

Try this one - http://join.facefucking101.com/track/MzoyOjI - I know this one is tracking.

woj 02-27-2006 12:56 PM

Just a quick tip: if you get "web developer" plugin for firefox, you can see exactly what cookies the given site has set and when they expire...

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
I just logged in and pulled the first link there, I don't know what's been changed in that admin in the last few weeks or if that site is still even tracking anymore.

Try this one - http://join.facefucking101.com/track/MzoyOjI - I know this one is tracking.

K.. I see that one... One is 24 Hours, one is 10 days, and one is like 3 and a half months.... LMAO

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by woj
Just a quick tip: if you get "web developer" plugin for firefox, you can see exactly what cookies the given site has set and when they expire...

Thanks WOJ.. Great tip!:thumbsup Been around 3 years, and learn something new everyday! :1orglaugh

newbreed 02-27-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy
K.. I see that one... One is 24 Hours, one is 10 days, and one is like 3 and a half months.... LMAO

Yeah, the second one I posted is a brand new NATS install, so it's still at the default.

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
Yeah, the second one I posted is a brand new NATS install, so it's still at the default.

Makes me wonder about the first one..... LMAO :1orglaugh

newbreed 02-27-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy
Makes me wonder about the first one..... LMAO :1orglaugh

Me too! :1orglaugh

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
Me too! :1orglaugh

Yeah.. I just came across a CCBill sponsor who's FHG's kindly neglect the referring affilaites PA code... how convenient. I'll be watching cookies and links more often....:disgust

TheDoc 02-27-2006 01:43 PM

By default the cookie holding reseller identification is stored for 10 days. You can change that setting by editing config.php in nats/includes and setting $config['NATS_COOKIE_EXPIRE'] to the value in seconds it should expire in. 10*86400 is the default (10 days).

From the NATS KB

Nathan 02-27-2006 02:35 PM

FYI,

The first link newbreed posted was not a NATS linkcode, it was URL of where NATS redirects the traffic to.
Also, the reason why you get that "expires: at end of session" most likely means that they set $config['NATS_COOKIE_EXPIRE'] to 0, that would most likely cause it, I will have to look into this though if you need to know for sure.

The first cookie that was set is the unique tracking cookie. A unique in nats is unique for 24 hours. The 2nd one is the nats code cookie, the third one, is a good question :) do not think it was set by us.

newbreed 02-27-2006 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan
FYI,

The first link newbreed posted was not a NATS linkcode, it was URL of where NATS redirects the traffic to.

You are absolutely correct on that John, I left-clicked and selected the wrong option from the admin control panel. Should have posted this - http://signups.arikaames.com/track/NDozOjE/ - but instead I copied the "Link" url. My bad for not double checking that!!! :error

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan
FYI,

The first link newbreed posted was not a NATS linkcode, it was URL of where NATS redirects the traffic to.
Also, the reason why you get that "expires: at end of session" most likely means that they set $config['NATS_COOKIE_EXPIRE'] to 0, that would most likely cause it, I will have to look into this though if you need to know for sure.

The first cookie that was set is the unique tracking cookie. A unique in nats is unique for 24 hours. The 2nd one is the nats code cookie, the third one, is a good question :) do not think it was set by us.

nats
nats_cookie
nats_sess

BlingDaddy 02-27-2006 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan
FYI,


Also, the reason why you get that "expires: at end of session" most likely means that they set $config['NATS_COOKIE_EXPIRE'] to 0, that would most likely cause it, I will have to look into this though if you need to know for sure.
.

Would be appreciated. :) People setting that to "0" aren't going to get my traffic. LMAO:1orglaugh

newbreed 02-27-2006 03:32 PM

Crap, Sorry Nathan, thought John posted that...

<--- too much stuff going on at once today...lol

Nathan 02-28-2006 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy
nats
nats_cookie
nats_sess

Hey, yes... nats_sess.. forgot about that. That tags the surfer for sufer stats so that the NATS admin can see for sure every single form submit that is done by the surfer and knows its the same one. This is not changable.

BlingDaddy 02-28-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan
Hey, yes... nats_sess.. forgot about that. That tags the surfer for sufer stats so that the NATS admin can see for sure every single form submit that is done by the surfer and knows its the same one. This is not changable.

Got it thanks.. so if a surfer has cookies disabled... that's bad... (for a referrer) no?

sfera 02-28-2006 10:28 AM

nats is great system


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