If it was proven today that your god didn?t exist, would you still believe?
 

???????????

Porn does not exist, do you still sell it?

It's not the existance one believes in, but the values and their application to your life.

you got it, dude. it reminds me of Santiago's journey in The Alchemist, when he was told that the treasure in The Pyramids aren't true. It was the journey that taught him the things he need that he found more important

wow what a deep thread

Satan has more logic. God is for pussies and people who don't like getting their dick sucked.

Surprisingly good replies to this question so far in here.

Nothing to add other than what's already been said.... In posts #3 and 4 that is. :D

then all them fags in the vatican got to go get real jobs.

i am my own god so it would be fairly impossible to prove i dont exist :)

disproving the existence of god will only harden the beliefs of most. its generally the sense of hope, sense of control, sense of purpose and answers that sell ... not "god". these are not things that can easily pryed away from people. i would argue that god is irrelevent to religion.

People would still believe and dimiss the 'proof' as a hoax.

For example, it's been proven that the Shroud of Christ is fake as hell. It's from around 1130 and the image on there is not possbile. It should have been distorted and measurements don't add up.


HOWEVER most people STILL believe it's real.

There's brainwashing and indoctrination for ya :2 cents:

I broached the same issue regarding Robert Kiyosaki's "Rich Dad, Poor Dad"--even if the messenger is a liar, does it necessarily mean the message is worthless? I see religious text as a catalyst for the inner morality everyone possesses. It is not absolutely necessary to release inner morality and practice kindness, compassion, and goodwill towards fellow human beings. However, whatever releases this inner morality whether aided by religion, philosophy, or self-knowledge is good by me. The different paths differ in terms of the amount of experience, iteration, and other factors. I am not about to judge which path is 'best'--everyone has a path that will work best for him or her. Everyone is different.

Agreed. THE SUREST WAY TO STRENGTHEN RELIGION is to PERSECUTE IT. Just look at history.

religion is the root of all evil.

No. Self-interest is. The religious wars, inquisitions, etc were just a mask for the self-interest (territorial integrity, dogmatic hegemony, clinging to power, etc) that was the root of the evil men did to preserve their position. Then again, it's also the root of capitalism. Perhaps, it is IMBALANCED self-interest that is the root of all evil?

If Jesus came back, no one would believe him anyway, so what's the point?

It's proven constantly with cults who are centered on some beleif that will happen on a certain day or whatever which does not materialize. it never causes the dissolution of the cult... and usually triggers growth.

A prime example of this is the creation of Seventh Day Adventist Church/William Smith.

A religion can grow and thrive based on absolutely absurd premises such as the Mormons/Joseph Smith or Jehovahs Witnesses (who still believe the earth is only 6000 years old and dinosaurs never existed).

you would really enjoy reading The Lucifer Principle... look it up. trust me, you will like it. :)

It helps sustain the faithful, if coins are involved...


http://congressionalgoldmedal.com/Ra...endelMedal.jpg

of course, I WILL STILL BELIEVE. that is FAITH!
His greatness and power need not be proven for me to be persuaded to believe in God.

and that's how you answer a good f.... q with a good f.... q!!!!!!!

i believe that if he has already come back... he is sitting on drugs, in a nut house. if he was willing to be crucified for our sins, he sure as hell would sit in a nut house for them and think he is doing a good job.

poor jesus.

Are you a blindly following catholic?

Jessica Alba is my god:)

:1orglaugh same here

Yeah no shit, thats just amazing. Amazingly retarded.

Since I dont belive now, I doubt id belive if it was proven that he didnt even exist :upsidedow

God is an imaginary friend for adults.....go back to porn....its the only REAL friend thats always they for you....

It's logically impossible to prove that something does not exist. Religion is based on that very point, it's something that can be based only on irrational beliefs, and thus is immune to most criticism.

But aside from that, many things that were said in this thread aren't true at all.

First and foremost, religion in most cases is not a foundation of values. Rather, the values are based on people's existing cultural and instinctive intuitions, which are stripped from their origins and turned into abstract, impersonal concepts, and are subsequently turned into "universal truths" by relating them to an infallible source.

Secondly, persecution can actually work against religions. The spread of both christianity and islam is in large part due to the prohibition and persecution of other religions. If you look at the European Reformation, many forms of christianity only thrived because they had political backing (often based on political motives, e.g. many German nobles supported Lutheranism because it allowed them to confiscate lands belonging to the Catholic church). However, some relatively popular radical reformists and their followers were effectively wiped out because they did not have backing from the political rulers of the day.

Who would like some kool aid?

I don't need God to exist to become a spiritually satisfied person. I do all the work on my own -- facing my own problems, working towards my own goals, becoming my best self -- and I don't do it for GOD. I do it for me.

My personal journey is what is most important to me, not making all my decisions based on whether I make it into some version of Heaven or Hell.

Now, if it's proven today that God really exists, would you stop looking at porn?

He did already, just no one wants to think of Richard Simmons as the Messiah.

To a biological organism with a brain stem, left to ponder in futility its reason for existence and the madness that becomes its environment - if it were proven today that God really exists...

...I'd be near the head of the line to tell'em to go fuck himself.

Yep - bring on the porn.

I agree,I do believe there is both a God and a devil and I only went to church a couple times when I was a kid.I was a troubled youth as well