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Quant_-_ 02-15-2006 11:48 AM

Exploited Cash warning
 
If anyone cares about *support and cooperation* with sponsors while promoting them, have in mind that my experience with *Exploited Cash* (Exploited Teens site) and the gentleman known as Rob is such that I had no reply to none of my ~30 ICQ messages and e-mails and might be having problems because of their lack of response.

So, if you want to be on your own while promoting your sponsor, promote *Exploited Cash*(oh, you also have to manage to get their not working webmaster page working in order to do so).

Have fun ;-)

Quant

Diligent 02-15-2006 02:59 PM

Have You tried reaching any other staff?

You never know, he might be hospitalized or something.
It can be difficult replying on ICQ then I mean..

Or is there upcoming drama for more reasons..?
If so, just spill it if it's bad enough :pimp
Don't take things to the boards too quickly.

(I'm definitely not defending him for any other reason than correct & respectful problem-solving, him running a program like that 'n all..).

bdld 02-15-2006 03:56 PM

i never got a response either when i tried a few months ago, so not sure if they want/need new affiliates at this point.

Azlord 02-15-2006 03:58 PM

People are having problems with ICQ/Trillian lately too.

wedouglas 02-15-2006 04:01 PM

No. You won't get a hold of him. I tried months and months ago. My friend can reach him whenever he wants it seems, so I assume he really isn't looking for more affiliates :2 cents:

~Ray 02-15-2006 04:16 PM

take your links down. don't promote a site that ignores you... :2 cents:

Shoehorn! 02-15-2006 04:23 PM

I usually don't have a problem getting ahold of him. :2 cents:

wedouglas 02-15-2006 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
take your links down. don't promote a site that ignores you... :2 cents:

Wrong. Don't promote sites that don't make you money. Money is money. Follow it.

spacedog 02-15-2006 05:49 PM

I never met Rob personally, however, I do have contact with him, and I do promote Exploited Teens, and from those few contacts, I learned he is a very genuine, honest & nice person, and doggone it, Exploited makes sales, so if you want to drop it because you're impatient because you feel the need to have a sponsor hold your hand, then so be it, that's just more money for the rest of those who continue.

I began promoting Exploited Teens as an invite because of a thread that I was looking for something new. At first, I was hesitant, but Rob assured me that his program will make sales, and that it does convert. He was straight up & very honest with me about his ratios & retention rate, and one thing he said that sticks in my head, he said "Do it this way, and you WILL make money". You know what? I made a sale within 24 hours of the day I started promoting them.


Out of many sponsors that I've tried or promoted, Rob & Exploited Cash is one I have to step up & say something about. Rob, went out of his way and bent over backwards for me. It's a shame some drama lovers want to take things publically to stir shit & generate sig views at the expense of a program owners reputation. If you're having such a hard time getting ahold of him, maybe he is away? Maybe somethings come up. Have you tried any of his reps? A few of them are around this board. Have you noticed all the problems with icq lately? Take a breath...

DonnieDrunko 02-15-2006 05:52 PM

You never know, he maybe busy expliting teens! Give him a day or two.

wedouglas 02-15-2006 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
I never met Rob personally, however, I do have contact with him, and I do promote Exploited Teens, and from those few contacts, I learned he is a very genuine, honest & nice person, and doggone it, Exploited makes sales, so if you want to drop it because you're impatient because you feel the need to have a sponsor hold your hand, then so be it, that's just more money for the rest of those who continue.

I began promoting Exploited Teens as an invite because of a thread that I was looking for something new. At first, I was hesitant, but Rob assured me that his program will make sales, and that it does convert. He was straight up & very honest with me about his ratios & retention rate, and one thing he said that sticks in my head, he said "Do it this way, and you WILL make money". You know what? I made a sale within 24 hours of the day I started promoting them.


Out of many sponsors that I've tried or promoted, Rob & Exploited Cash is one I have to step up & say something about. Rob, went out of his way and bent over backwards for me. It's a shame some drama lovers want to take things publically to stir shit & generate sig views at the expense of a program owners reputation. If you're having such a hard time getting ahold of him, maybe he is away? Maybe somethings come up. Have you tried any of his reps? A few of them are around this board. Have you noticed all the problems with icq lately? Take a breath...

From what I know, his program is awsome, however, I can confirm that getting a hold of him is difficult. I never was able to reach him or anyone. Others have said similar things. I just think that he isn't trying to saturate his stuff and doesn't need 100000 affiliates these days. :2 cents:

I also think the title of this thread is misleading and unneccessary.

FlyingIguana 02-15-2006 05:56 PM

exploited webmasters, the next big thing

spacedog 02-15-2006 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas
From what I know, his program is awsome, however, I can confirm that getting a hold of him is difficult. I never was able to reach him or anyone. Others have said similar things. I just think that he isn't trying to saturate his stuff and doesn't need 100000 affiliates these days. :2 cents:

I also think the title of this thread is misleading and unneccessary.

I just icq now, no fucking problem?

Some people just simply talk shit.......... DRAMA

Quant_-_ 02-15-2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
It's a shame some drama lovers want to take things publically to stir shit & generate sig views at the expense of a program owners reputation. If you're having such a hard time getting ahold of him, maybe he is away? Maybe somethings come up. Have you tried any of his reps? A few of them are around this board. Have you noticed all the problems with icq lately? Take a breath...

Oh yes, you got it totally, just look at my sig, makes me 10k every week!

Quant_-_ 02-15-2006 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonnieDrunko
You never know, he maybe busy expliting teens! Give him a day or two.

Gave them 3 weeks, e-mailed them too, as I said.

Quant_-_ 02-15-2006 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas
I also think the title of this thread is misleading and unneccessary.

I don't. I am warning people about what I said is Exploited Cash issue.

On the other hand, what is misleading, is promising me using ICQ that some things will be done and then not replying for 3 weeks.

spacedog 02-15-2006 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quant_-_
I don't. I am warning people about what I said is Exploited Cash issue.

On the other hand, what is misleading, is promising me using ICQ that some things will be done and then not replying for 3 weeks.


Why don't you tell everybody the whole truth. Tell them the whole story..
Tell them how you live in Russia, and because you live in Russia you're unable to promote the program, so why don't you tell everyone the whole story about how you continue to ask Rob about using a croatian address instead of your Russian address, so that you can cheat the system.. Maybe he simply wants to do everything legitimately and does not want the hassle of bending & making exceptions for people.

You're just flaming because you wanted to promote them to make some cash, and because of the rules in place, you wanted adjustments that simply can not be made, so, you're upset. I understand you want to make money, and I understand you probably like the site, the content, etc, and you feel it's unfair to you individually because of your geographical location, however, the rules are the rules, and you must know, there are many, many programs that you can use.. Don't spend so much time fretting on programs that do not allow webmasters from certain countries... It's not your fault. It's not personal, it's just a risk ratio & high fraud risk calculation that has been developed based on previous experience, and as a result, rules were put in place. If you're serious about your legitimacy in this biz, shrug it off & show you ARE responsible & rules are NOT to be broken..

You can NOT expect a program owner to break the rules and expect that you will not break them yourself. That is not how this works.

chadglni 02-15-2006 07:36 PM

Personally, I love Russians. I'll trade you a US or Canadian address for a sexy russian housemaid looking for a husband. ;)

Quant_-_ 02-15-2006 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
Why don't you tell everybody the whole truth. Tell them the whole story..
Tell them how you live in Russia, and because you live in Russia you're unable to promote the program, so why don't you tell everyone the whole story about how you continue to ask Rob about using a croatian address instead of your Russian address, so that you can cheat the system.. Maybe he simply wants to do everything legitimately and does not want the hassle of bending & making exceptions for people.

You're just flaming because you wanted to promote them to make some cash, and because of the rules in place, you wanted adjustments that simply can not be made, so, you're upset. I understand you want to make money, and I understand you probably like the site, the content, etc, and you feel it's unfair to you individually because of your geographical location, however, the rules are the rules, and you must know, there are many, many programs that you can use.. Don't spend so much time fretting on programs that do not allow webmasters from certain countries... It's not your fault. It's not personal, it's just a risk ratio & high fraud risk calculation that has been developed based on previous experience, and as a result, rules were put in place. If you're serious about your legitimacy in this biz, shrug it off & show you ARE responsible & rules are NOT to be broken..

You can NOT expect a program owner to break the rules and expect that you will not break them yourself. That is not how this works.

I think I was pretty clear and what I said is a "complete truth" and this other information you're telling here has nothing to do with the facts I've layed out.

Now to answer your off-topic comment. I'm Croatian and not Russian. What you said is pretty not clever, because Exploited Cash doesn't allow croatian webmaster just as much as it doesn't allow russian, so I really don't understand what you meant I could achive by pretending to be croatian even if I was Russian.

Furthermore, to each program that doesn't accept croatian webmasters, and I promote a bunch, I bring tons of references, ICQ numbers from people from established programs who can testify about my work etc. etc. and they let me join. Allowing croatian webmasters to join comes down to clicking a single option on CCBill site owner's admin pages.

What you don't understand, and it seems is beyond your comprehension, is the fact that Rob did say I can join and that he will send an e-mail to CCBill to change my address manually etc. and then when I did join he stopped replying to my messages and now I can have problems with CCBill because Rob is a liar.

Now, what I don't like are liars, people who are unproffesional (which doesn't mean they don't make money), not polite, who don't read and who don't think.

I hope everything is clear now.

Quant

shuki 02-15-2006 08:56 PM

Rob is a great guy. I have talked with him a few times on ICQ and he was very helpful when I had questions for him.


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