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spacedog 02-14-2006 06:20 PM

Can encrypted code be unencrypted?
 
How can one unencrypt encrypted code? Is it possible? Can it be done? How is it done? Is it easy? Is encrypted code really secure or safe?

Harmon 02-14-2006 06:21 PM

You must have the cipher Neo

xclusive 02-14-2006 06:21 PM

Depends how it's encrypted and it's not if but when it will be cracked.

spacedog 02-14-2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon
You must have the cipher Neo

No, I don't want to unencrypt. I have a page I uploaded that I encrypted & I wanted to know if the code encryption is really going to stop people from getting the code?


lol, for a minute there, I thought Neo was a software program.. gotcha now, from "The Matrix" right. :winkwink:

EdgeXXX 02-14-2006 06:22 PM

It depends on the encryption method, but for the most part Yes.

EdgeXXX 02-14-2006 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog
No, I don't want to unencrypt. I have a page I uploaded that I encrypted & I wanted to know if the code encryption is really going to stop people from getting the code?


What form of encryption did you use?

SilverTab 02-14-2006 06:23 PM

mmm depends on the encrypting method ...you are being kinda vague LOL

spacedog 02-14-2006 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverTab
mmm depends on the encrypting method ...you are being kinda vague LOL

I didnt really read the program to find out what method it is, but it's one of those free encryption utilities found on the interweb :winkwink:

I know the encryption prevents dreamweaver from being able to display it in design view.

sickbeatz 02-14-2006 06:25 PM

Depends how fast your computer is. Depends on the cipher. Depends on how big the blocks are. Depends how many bits the encryption is made of. And finally, it depends on how cleverly designed the algorithm is. All encryption is breakable.

EdgeXXX 02-14-2006 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
I didnt really read the program to find out what method it is, but it's one of those free encryption utilities found on the interweb :winkwink:

I know the encryption prevents dreamweaver from being able to display it in design view.


Then chances are if someone wants it, they will get it.

EdgeXXX 02-14-2006 06:26 PM

Spacedog, is the page online yet?

spacedog 02-14-2006 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickbeatz
Depends how fast your computer is. Depends on the cipher. Depends on how big the blocks are. Depends how many bits the encryption is made of. And finally, it depends on how cleverly designed the algorithm is. All encryption is breakable.


so, what's recommended for encryption if I want to make it 100% inaccessible to everybody & everything except browsers for viewing the page

spacedog 02-14-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
Spacedog, is the page online yet?

yes it is.

sickbeatz 02-14-2006 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
so, what's recommended for encryption if I want to make it 100% inaccessible to everybody & everything except browsers for viewing the page

encrypt with higher bits. if you're really paranoid. you can encrypt the encryption.

EdgeXXX 02-14-2006 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
yes it is.


Give me the URL and I'll take a look at it for you.

spacedog 02-14-2006 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
Give me the URL and I'll take a look at it for you.

Other webmasters is the reason I encrypted it.. :1orglaugh


hit me up 348-132-803

sickbeatz 02-14-2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
so, what's recommended for encryption if I want to make it 100% inaccessible to everybody & everything except browsers for viewing the page

oh.. you want your browser to decrypt it?

how about SSL?

spacedog 02-14-2006 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickbeatz
oh.. you want your browser to decrypt it?

how about SSL?


Well, the page is encrypted now, and the browser is able to display pages, I just want a secure & safe way of prevention people from seeing the source code. I do not think I can use SSL on a virtual hosting account

jjjay 02-14-2006 06:55 PM

geez. if it's a free utility it's not exactly going to be nsa level encryption is it. are you that scared of people stealing your designs?

SmokeyTheBear 02-14-2006 07:01 PM

if it can be encrypted it can be decrypted or else it would be useless

spacedog 02-14-2006 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjay
geez. if it's a free utility it's not exactly going to be nsa level encryption is it. are you that scared of people stealing your designs?

I knew that it's not nsa encryption, :1orglaugh just looking into protecting the source code, and of course I'm paranoid of thieves. Too many of them.

spacedog 02-14-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
if it can be encrypted it can be decrypted or else it would be useless

But how easy or difficult is it to decrypt for the "average" webmaster.

jjjay 02-14-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog
I knew that it's not nsa encryption, :1orglaugh just looking into protecting the source code, and of course I'm paranoid of thieves. Too many of them.

html encryption only generally protects you from the most lazy of thieves

if they're really determined they can reverse engineer it - if your browser can deciphire it, so can people

that's pretty much it. html encryption has limited use, and personally I wouldn't spend time worrying about it

the only other way you could hide stuff is server side with dynamic pages, but it depends what you want to hide...etc

Nookster 02-14-2006 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickbeatz
Depends how fast your computer is. Depends on the cipher. Depends on how big the blocks are. Depends how many bits the encryption is made of. And finally, it depends on how cleverly designed the algorithm is. All encryption is breakable.

what he said ^^^ ALL encryption is breakable, it's just a matter of time. :2 cents:

SmokeyTheBear 02-14-2006 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog
But how easy or difficult is it to decrypt for the "average" webmaster.

anyone with basic computer skills and enough determination could do it , might take some time.. i would say 10% of people perhaps.. ?

jjjay 02-14-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
anyone with basic computer skills and enough determination could do it , might take some time.. i would say 10% of people perhaps.. ?

most 'decent' html encryption is javascript based. pretty much sums up how difficult it would be to crack

of course, encryption would kill any on page seo...

chadglni 02-14-2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjay
most 'decent' html encryption is javascript based. pretty much sums up how difficult it would be to crack

of course, encryption would kill any on page seo...

What, you mean people dont' search for "sadfsdflasdazzxxxxyxyasdfasdf"?

spacedog 02-14-2006 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjay
most 'decent' html encryption is javascript based. pretty much sums up how difficult it would be to crack

of course, encryption would kill any on page seo...

great, so what options do I have to not kill seo, and still have source code protected from would be thieving newbies.

Agnosticism 02-14-2006 07:40 PM

Man you guys are fucken noobs. Encrypted HTML can be decrypted no matter what just by visiting it with Netscape and save the webpage to the HD. Trust me I know :)

Spider Ninja 02-14-2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog
great, so what options do I have to not kill seo, and still have source code protected from would be thieving newbies.

you can cloak...poor man's cloaking based on user agent or do the ip cloaking thing

woj 02-14-2006 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
Well, the page is encrypted now, and the browser is able to display pages, I just want a secure & safe way of prevention people from seeing the source code. I do not think I can use SSL on a virtual hosting account

There is no way to encrypt a page securely, while making it still displayable in a browser... any script kiddie can crack those javascript encryptors in minutes...

KMR Stitch 02-14-2006 09:02 PM

I can decrypt almost any webpage with a few lines of txt.


give you a hint doc"write" ;-)

Spider Ninja 02-14-2006 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KMR Stitch
I can decrypt almost any webpage with a few lines of txt.


give you a hint doc"write" ;-)

haha...I saw some perl program that was "encrypted"...I changed the "decode" to "print" and that was that

johnnyhey 02-14-2006 09:09 PM

yes 6789

Tempest 02-14-2006 09:43 PM

Oh my good lord... stop dicking around idiotic things like that and focus on building more and more pages and shit to actually get more and more traffic to your sites and make some money.

It's a complete waste of time to try and encrypt your pages.. I mean fuck man.. they've broken the Zend encription for php programs.


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