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Axeman 02-13-2006 05:58 PM

2257 story on CNBC at 8pm
 
A news story regarding 2257 and the online adult industry is
on On the Money at 8pm on CNBC

BobG 02-13-2006 06:02 PM

yes, yes. Should be interesting.

Taboo 02-13-2006 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman
A news story regarding 2257 and the online adult industry is
on On the Money at 8pm on CNBC

thanks, almost missed it.

gideongallery 02-13-2006 06:05 PM

can someone tape this and post it somewhere i would love to see it but am at work now

Matt 26z 02-13-2006 06:18 PM

This is the first big mainstream coverage of it.

Let's see if they portray it as something that will prevent CP, or as a worthless paperwork law.

Taboo 02-13-2006 06:31 PM

it's on in a few minutes.
here's more coverage from WSJ that spawned the CNBC piece:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article..._20070212.html

marzzo 02-13-2006 06:31 PM

on in a few minutes.. also, Tom Sizemore will be on @ 10pm EST..

WellFuckMe 02-13-2006 06:37 PM

Exact quote :

Senator: "My problem is not underage performers in the content, but the underage persons looking and viewing the content. Most pornographic websites are viewed by children from age 11 to er um 17."


Is this guy high?

Axeman 02-13-2006 06:38 PM

Larry Walters put out the reasons why its a joke, to bad the host is a complete tool to understand things.

But i was glad that Larry said that if stalker wanted the passport of his favorite porn star, all he had to do was buy a set of her pics etc.

BobG 02-13-2006 06:39 PM

ok I was wrong. It was crap.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-13-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellFuckMe
Exact quote :

Senator: "My problem is not underage performers in the content, but the underage persons looking and viewing the content. Most pornographic websites are viewed by children from age 11 to er um 17."


Is this guy high?

Wow, Blatant lie's by a politician? LOL.

No surprise.

They are good we are evil.

Axeman 02-13-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellFuckMe
Exact quote :

Senator: "My problem is not underage performers in the content, but the underage persons looking and viewing the content. Most pornographic websites are viewed by children from age 11 to er um 17."


Is this guy high?

Yeah not well put, but his point is valid. It really should be the main concern.

Matt 26z 02-13-2006 06:43 PM

Well that was uneventful.

Walters should have pointed out that you can pass all the paperwork laws you want for the adult side of the industry, but the CP side -- a totally different industry -- isn't going to follow any laws at all.

Axeman 02-13-2006 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Well that was uneventful.

Walters should have pointed out that you can pass all the paperwork laws you want for the adult side of the industry, but the CP side -- a totally different industry -- isn't going to follow any laws at all.

good point. But with that dick of a host, would have been pretty tough to get anything in. After he treated the Visa chick, i knew the porn interview was going to suck.

Thee Johnclave 02-13-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman
Yeah not well put, but his point is valid. It really should be the main concern.

You believe the main concern should not be stopping 11 year olds from engaging in a sexual act but from viewing one? Please tell me I misunderstood you.

Noir 02-13-2006 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy The Squid
You believe the main concern should not be stopping 11 year olds from engaging in a sexual act but from viewing one? Please tell me I misunderstood you.

Same here.

WTF

Axeman 02-13-2006 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy The Squid
You believe the main concern should not be stopping 11 year olds from engaging in a sexual act but from viewing one? Please tell me I misunderstood you.

Hard to deal with the scum that do CP, but no question when you find it you prosecute it as hard as you can. no ammount of paperwork or laws is going to stop scum like that.

But what we as a country and industry do have control over is better controlling who see's the material. And thats what the congressman was trying to get across.

Lycanthrope 02-13-2006 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy The Squid
You believe the main concern should not be stopping 11 year olds from engaging in a sexual act but from viewing one? Please tell me I misunderstood you.

I was hoping the same.

Lycanthrope 02-13-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman
Hard to deal with the scum that do CP, but no question when you find it you prosecute it as hard as you can. no ammount of paperwork or laws is going to stop scum like that.

That is true, but this is what 2257 alleges to be about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman
But what we as a country and industry do have control over is better controlling who see's the material. And thats what the congressman was trying to get across.

Bullshit. It is neither ours nor the government's responsibility to babysit people's children. Yes, we can be somewhat responsible - labelling with ICRA and what have you, but parents should be watching their own children.

Besides, that second point has nothing to do with 2257.

Axeman 02-13-2006 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope
That is true, but this is what 2257 alleges to be about.



Bullshit. It is neither ours nor the government's responsibility to babysit people's children. Yes, we can be somewhat responsible - labelling with ICRA and what have you, but parents should be watching their own children.

Besides, that second point has nothing to do with 2257.

Strongly disagree. It's ours and the parents responsibility. And if we wont do it ourselves and the government wants to help aid the age verification along, then i am all for it.

Should it be ok for all porn stores to let children enter and rent videos and just say hey its not my job to keep adult materials from these kids, it's their parents.....

Axeman 02-13-2006 07:03 PM

Also Lycanthorpe, you shouldn't comment on something you did not watch, as you don't know the context of what was said.

Watch the whole segment first, then comment.

crockett 02-13-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WellFuckMe
Exact quote :

Senator: "My problem is not underage performers in the content, but the underage persons looking and viewing the content. Most pornographic websites are viewed by children from age 11 to er um 17."


Is this guy high?


I couldn't believe it when that moron said that.. Just like usual Senators have no fucking clue what they are promoting. They just want their name in the press looking like they are doing something. 2257 has absolutely nothing to do with minors watching porn.

sfera 02-13-2006 07:13 PM

wonder if they will mention gfy lol

Axeman 02-13-2006 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
I couldn't believe it when that moron said that.. Just like usual Senators have no fucking clue what they are promoting. They just want their name in the press looking like they are doing something. 2257 has absolutely nothing to do with minors watching porn.

You could see the host cut him off and back to the issue as soon as he could.

I was surprised who they got to do it though. A democrat from UTAH! Come on!

Larry Walters handled himself good and made his points quickly before getting cut off. Though the host didnt seem to grasp the secondary producer aspect.

Matt 26z 02-13-2006 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope
Bullshit. It is neither ours nor the government's responsibility to babysit people's children. Yes, we can be somewhat responsible - labelling with ICRA and what have you, but parents should be watching their own children.

This is certainly going to be a hot debate over the next few years.

The internet is not just some toy like it was during the internet boom. It has now grown into being a part of people's lives, including kids.

I don't think "parents should watch their kids" is a completely valid argument from webmasters any longer. It still holds some weight, but webmasters need to accept that the line between real life and cyberspace is growing thinner and thinner as each year goes by.


The ICRA ratings are a good start, but they really need to release one standard line of code for all adult websites. Their initial process to get the adult site code is a bit of a pain in the ass.


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