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MrChips 02-10-2006 07:29 AM

Peer to Peer
 
Ok - lets get this right folks.

I have a 1 minute movie clip I would like to allow users of various p2p networks to download.

Now when I want to download something (as a surfer) - I just key into the software the name of a word say - and the software (kazzaaaaa or whatever) goes off and finds matches for me.

My questions to the experts are :-

1. Where do I place my movie clip so it is exposed to the searches performed by the p2p users.

2. What triggers the p2p client software to cause it to include my movie clip in its search results.

I have it my head that exposing a file for sharing purposes is similar (tenuoulsy) to getting seen by Engine spiders - get your parameters right and they will come - so whats the score on the p2p ?

Any help on this much appreciated.

Crypt 02-10-2006 08:03 AM

You are 5 years late on p2p spam, move along and find a new traffic source , all the good money is made already from it.

Libertine 02-10-2006 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt
You are 5 years late on p2p spam, move along and find a new traffic source , all the good money is made already from it.

Bullshit. P2P can still work as a very decent means of promotion (traffic-wise), and when done right it is very efficient with regards to both time and cost.


In response to the original question: It varies per P2P program what the location of shared files is, and usually you can set up in the program itself which folders you want to share.
Getting downloads depends on getting your keywords right, providing enough initial sources (in most P2P programs, people often won't download files if there are only a few sources, or they might not even show up in searches altogether), and viral value of files.

Crypt 02-10-2006 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkworld
Bullshit. P2P can still work as a very decent means of promotion (traffic-wise), and when done right it is very efficient with regards to both time and cost.


In response to the original question: It varies per P2P program what the location of shared files is, and usually you can set up in the program itself which folders you want to share.
Getting downloads depends on getting your keywords right, providing enough initial sources (in most P2P programs, people often won't download files if there are only a few sources, or they might not even show up in searches altogether), and viral value of files.

Bullshit? Sorry budy, i said "GOOD" money, you know like the easy one.

The good time of AFF converting 1:200 , ActiveX/Toolbar 1:15 , Free 1$ mail 1:10 and other dating sites with good ratios over p2p is really over. It was 5 years ago. Try now to convert AFF even to 1:1500 1:2500 over p2p, good luck.

Every good shit doing real money are satured over p2p since every idiots copy others ... a a TOTAL new ActiveX/toolbar will come satured after 1 week , ratio will start 1:10 and go to 1:800. It will NEVER change.

Now you need to work hard to even get a ROI. Noobs will just burn a ton of money just to figure out what is working and what not. And its + all the setup needed.

You cant upload a few videos , use some keywords file , show 40 popus to surfers, and expect to get 200 sales overnight. Its a total dream. Even with 5M page views a day.

It will only work great if you feed some tgps, resell the traffic , or want to spend a ton of money to show your urls , sort of branding.

Sorry guys, but the "REAL" money is made already from p2p , sell the traffic like some ppls do or move along.

Libertine 02-10-2006 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt
Bullshit? Sorry budy, i said "GOOD" money, you know like the easy one.

The good time of AFF converting 1:200 , ActiveX/Toolbar 1:15 , Free 1$ mail 1:10 and other dating sites with good ratios over p2p is really over. It was 5 years ago. Try now to convert AFF even to 1:1500 1:2500 over p2p, good luck.

Every good shit doing real money are satured over p2p since every idiots copy others ... a a TOTAL new ActiveX/toolbar will come satured after 1 week , ratio will start 1:10 and go to 1:800. It will NEVER change.

Now you need to work hard to even get a ROI. Noobs will just burn a ton of money just to figure out what is working and what not. And its + all the setup needed.

You cant upload a few videos , use some keywords file , show 40 popus to surfers, and expect to get 200 sales overnight. Its a total dream. Even with 5M page views a day.

It will only work great if you feed some tgps, resell the traffic , or want to spend a ton of money to show your urls , sort of branding.

Sorry guys, but the "REAL" money is made already from p2p , sell the traffic like some ppls do or move along.

I would venture to say that there is a vast gap between "good" money and "easy" money. What you mentioned with regards to branding is something which I, for one, still consider a source of "good" money. Releasing a few quality videos on P2P networks can provide a steady source of traffic, which after the initial release requires very little work at all and can last virtually forever.

MrChips 02-10-2006 10:20 AM

Well - the movie clip was an example - but branding is fine by me - Ive got 25 new TGPs i'd like to start branding - over two main names.

"all the good money is made already from it."

No problem with that - I just didnt get involved at the time - thats when I was raping the search engines ;)

No time for both.

K - where do I start - anyone recommend any good sites to visit - somewhere with a tutorial about "Branding using P2P networks - how to do it"

lesbodojo 02-10-2006 11:09 AM

We're not exactly a p2p but we can be used as a content distribution system. GUBA has a crapload of traffic and you can leverage that success by posting content to GUBA and/or USENET through GUBA.

Hit me up offline and I can do it for you for free.

Tom_PM 02-10-2006 11:20 AM

Download Shareaza and connect to all 3 networks it comes with and put your video in the shared folder. Done.

How hard was that? lmao.

MrChips 02-10-2006 11:35 AM

Ok PR_Tom -

Is there a way though - of making content so that the user can click something and be dropped into my TGPs?

Sorry for the stupid questions.

Looking over guba now.

Tom_PM 02-10-2006 11:40 AM

Well, I've seen people talking about ways to have a clickable link in a movie, but I dont know how.

Or a popup, but I never looked into it.

But I have run a small test on just branded pics and DID get typeins (tracked their IP in p2p software compared to server logs). So even a branded clip would generate something, even if it's only a sitename/url.

Just_Dave 02-10-2006 12:05 PM

don't forget to use drm clips

Chio 02-10-2006 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChips
Ok PR_Tom -

Is there a way though - of making content so that the user can click something and be dropped into my TGPs?

Sorry for the stupid questions.

Looking over guba now.

Windows media encoder can force a user to url using scripting, (doesn't work in newer versions of player though)
Apple has a new product called interactive. I haven't tried it yet but looks promising.

marketsmart 02-10-2006 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio
Windows media encoder can force a user to url using scripting, (doesn't work in newer versions of player though)
Apple has a new product called interactive. I haven't tried it yet but looks promising.

pop up blockers will block wm encoder pops as well as xp with sp2

use drm instead and have users click to acquire license....

and btw, dont expect anything crazy in terms of results using a p2p client on a local machine....


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