will this industry every see the day where theres no more MIN PAYOUTS?
 

I know affiliate programs gotta "make their money", but just like you (program owners) want the money you make, we affilates want the money we make too. I dont care if its $15 or $100..i made it, i want it.

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most programs if you contact them will pay u your balance

I think instant payouts as a standard would be better...

Now thats thinking! :thumbsup


I believe flashcash has that, don't they?

heh, people hate to wait for email these days. What? Instant mail? Screw that, i want instant messages! I need to know 5 minutes ago!!!!

So yeah, instant payouts would be where it's at for sure.

well, for some amounts it just doesn't make sense, especially when people request wires......paying $20 for a $15 wire transfer is just illogical

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well duh lol ;) i agree thats retarded
but to have options like:

Epass ($2 fee)-no min payout
Check-no min payout
*Wire-$50 min earnings required

:thumbsup

What burns me is when they've got a $100 min payment, but it took a poor ratio to get the first sale or two. It's just not worth it to try and make the rest.

thats an excellent idea imo

ill request from various sponsors i have unpaid money with, and i'll list here who pays and who doesnt.

Highly doubtful. Affiliate companies make a lot of profit with this scam. They know most affiliates eventually forget about it and never collect their comms.

I absolutely agree with this. :thumbsup Minimum payouts can be truly annoying.

I've thought of this too. I won't say the name of the program, but it is a 500$ minimum payout and I'm laughing at that because I only get limited traffic to the niches that it caters and I'm going to be waiting years for the money I've got lol :1orglaugh

I know for a fact that a few programs factor carrying the balance of affiliates who have not made the minimums into their cashflow...

This is exactly why min payouts are in place

lol they always seem to be shitty sites as well. i typically use the $100 min as a proxy for, 'our sites suck so bad we know you'll never hit the min'

Throughout the year I really don't care, but it would be nice if at the end of the sponsors fiscal year they sent out checks with the remaining balance, even if it is only $20.

that i wouldnt mind either.

Yep, I lost count of how many unused affiliate accounts I got that I stopped pushing (and were left with money)

Instant payouts in this bussiness is a risky thing to say the least!

There's probably 20 or 30 sponsors over the past 6 years that I have small balances with that I will never get because I don't even remember my login names/emails for them, even *if* I wanted to send them traffic to reach the minimum payout. :Oh crap

yea

sponsors need to stop fucking shaving their affiliates and being so deceptive.

this is a message to all the crooked program owners out there. FUCK YOU

exactly. and to prove that statement...
(min payout from this sponsor is $100)

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/1116/coins6xd.jpg

:disgust

On another note, the week or 2 week lag is getting old when waiting to get paid for sales you sent and reached the min. payout for.

Most other jobs pay you at the end of your work week or bi monthly without a holding period... every sponsor should do the same. We work, we want to get paid. For example: www.webcams.com/affiliate - their week is Sunday through Saturday and you get paid the very next monday (2 days after the period ends) and $40 trials to boot! ... excellent program :thumbsup

I don't have very good numbers with them either, though I do suck with that niche.

The program in your sig has a $100 mininum payout. I sent them 2 signups at the end of 2004 and haven't been payed :)

Bad comparison.

We aren't employees. We are basically sub-contracters. If you really wanted to be like "every other company", then we would need to send an invoice to the sponsor every 2 weeks and then wait another month or so for payment.

I'm fine with the lag. Its faster then most every other b2b business.

I hate getting a bunch of small checks for small amounts like $35 or so, I'm really lazy to go to the bank, I only go once in a blue moon and it's a pain to add up a bunch of small checks so you have a big stack that hard to fit in the atm machine slot, I'd rather wait and get one big check than a bunch of smaller ones. 500 min payout is ridiculous, but 100 is more than fine i think.

not ALL $100 min payout programs are bad.

but some programs are so shitty and their sites dont convert for shit.

so then collect all the small checks and cashem one day, every week. problem solved.

I am too lazy to even go to the bank once a week, thats how bad my laziness is getting. Sometimes I don't go for 1-2 and a half months :helpme , webmastering is making me super super SUPER lazy to the point where I don't even want to go to the grocery store, thinking of having it delivered, or my boyfriend buys it most of the time.

I am so lazy my contact lenses expired October of last year and I haven't even gone to the eye doctor to get new ones, thats how bad it is :helpme By the time I wake up i dont have time to get ready and get there...

I have like 4 programs right now that I gotta start promoting to get a check cut. I've got like $35 in the balance and need 2 more signups just to get my checks. :( I stopped promoting them due to shitty sales ratios, but regardless, im still gonna promote them until I get my checks. I'm not gonna leave money behind.

This is not very good accounting practice. The sponsor program doesnt receive the money instantly once the transaction is processed (specifically when using a 3rd party to process transactions), so it does not make any sense to have an instant payout. Not to mention the obvious fraud risk - the sponsor would have no time to detect fraud and would expose themself to an undue amount of risk. There is also the issue of transaction cost - more frequent payments means more payout transactions, and those transactions cost money.

Many sponsors have minimum payouts of $100, which is about 4 sales. If you arent making 4 sales per pay period (for weekly payouts and $30 pps this is round about a sale every other day) then the minimum payout level is the least of your problems.

Just email them and let them know your traffic isnt working with the sites they have. Request the payment owed and close the account. I am sure most reputable programs would be more then happy to take care of it.

They do?
I am pretty used to seeing people get paid weekly or bi-weekly from jobs yes, but they also do not get their first paycheck until they have been there two weeks for weekly or a month for bi-weekly. So in effect they are always a week to two weeks behind. People just may not notice after a few weeks or so.

I know I have a check delays with ccbill, though I also still get checks each week. So after some time you really do not notice this way either.

See sig for INSTANT PAYOUTS as low as $20 :)

ya know, i just may start to push flashcash.
i have heard nothing but absolute great things about them. :thumbsup
instant payouts would kick ass!

why do you people sign up to so many programs? :)

I really hate the $100 minimums with some companies.. Shouldn't be more than $50.. I find the $25 ones actually iritate me when you get small cheques. The worst are the BossHawg programs with their damn $200 minimums.. On the older programs that aren't converting very well it can take 3+ months to make that.

this is one of the best posts i have seen on here!

$25.00 should be the min, not $100.00 +

this is for check payouts.

not if your pushing over 200 programs, you cant send them all 4 + sales

not sure about others here, but i have a teens blog and each time i review a teen, i sign up for their program. now, i try to promote sponsors that have a lot of teen sites so that i can send alot of traffic to one main sponsor (such as silvercash and lightspeed for example) but i still find myself signing up to various programs from time to time.

sometimes i'll get a sale or two, but not reach the min payout for a long time, if ever.

The lag in payouts is acceptable. It's part of fraud control and that's just the way it is. You can thank the cheaters for that.

As for the minimum payout thing I can see your point. If a sponsor pays $25 per signup and your ratio was like 1 in 5000 to get the first join, there's no way you're going to send 15K more hits so you can make the minimum.
In that case you should be able to ask them to close your account and send you the balance due.

Isn't 200 programs a little too much?

That is correct, I had a mere $14.96 rolling over for months with xpays and a simple email is getting that remaining balance cleared next month.
WG

GFY and the people who post here is not the entire industry.
there is a whole big internet out there, and there are affiliate programs who do not have min payouts.

Wow... I am thinking 2 different things about this thread...

On one hand I was there and when I made about $4000 a month in affiliate income this was a VERY BIG DEAL... Mostly because that $4000 was from 2 main sponsors and then $1800 from about 20 others (not including the countless ones paid out via CCBILL)... So each month I'd have a lot of sponsors oweing me money and it'd take 4 to 5 months to finally get it if ever. Drove me nuts... I'd make $4000 and get paid $3200 of it...

This month it looks like I will do around $17,000... But now I have it spread over 40 to 50 sponsors... So I will get about $14,000 of it and have $3000 locked away until some time in the future (if ever)... But now that I get $14,000 a month, I don't really give a big shit about the remaining $3000...

Last month I did $14,000 but got paid about $15,800 because the $1,800 from Nov and Dec finally crossed the threshold... So the only thing I can say is... Make more money :)

That doesn't work; I've tried. :2 cents:

you do realize, you are the famous Wired Guy? :winkwink:

I think the minimum payment is also there to stop surfers for signing up as an affiliate, then registering for the site and getting in for basically free.