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sigurman 02-04-2006 05:56 PM

TURKEY in the EU?
 
After all this cartoon confusion, what you think of TURKEY in the European Union?
Does 80 million persons (turkey population) worth this kind of confusion (eventualy)? Culturaly, They have nothing to do with the rest of the Europe.
I say NO.

TheButcher 02-04-2006 06:32 PM

The day KFC starts a new menu called the bird flu sandwich then Turkey will be part of the EU.

Yeh so a part is in Europe big deal, they're muslims and guess what the EU is a Christian club, they have no human rights, ripe with coruption, no civil liberties, no free press, the list goes on.

EU leaders are humoring them pretending to listen to their application to enter the EU. No one in Eorope really wants them in and it's for the best.

They don't belong in the EU and that's all there is to say about the subject.

andrej_NDC 02-04-2006 06:40 PM

yes, they dont belong in the EU, short and simple

hmmwv 02-04-2006 06:41 PM

fuck turkey. i hate turkish people (of cause there are exceptions); most of the 13-25 year olds are fucking trouble makers over here.

i think only about 3% of turkey are on the europe continent, so fuck off :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

i´m not a racist, but i´ve had mostly bad experience with this folk...:Oh crap

JamesK2 02-04-2006 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hmmwv
fuck turkey. i hate turkish people (of cause there are exceptions); most of the 13-25 year olds are fucking trouble makers over here.

i think only about 3% of turkey are on the europe continent, so fuck off :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

i´m not a racist, but i´ve had mostly bad experience with this folk...:Oh crap

rac·ism Audio pronunciation of "racist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

:1orglaugh

u-Bob 02-04-2006 08:48 PM

Turkey is an asian country, not a european one, so it has no place in the EU.
If you accept Turkey, then you have to accept, Morocco, Egypt, Indonesia, Japan,...

Theo 02-04-2006 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob
Turkey is an asian country, not a european one, so it has no place in the EU.
If you accept Turkey, then you have to accept, Morocco, Egypt, Indonesia, Japan,...


no problem with me

Nembrionic 02-04-2006 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob
Turkey is an asian country, not a european one,

Wrong. Turkey is on both the Asian and European continent. A so-called bi-continental country.

ardy6931 02-04-2006 09:05 PM

Anyone who has something against a country that they have never been to is too bloody ignorant be worthy of making a statement of such magnitude against turkey. I have spent a lot of time in turkey which happens to be one of europeans most frequently visited vacation spots. So they are not originally from europe, neither is half the soviet block countries that our now considered part of europe and the Eu.

It don't matter what anyone thinks of Turkey, bottom line is they will get in within 10-15 years when they are ready. THere is too much money to be made from their membership for them not to get in. Do the math people, third world people in the first world countries make great cheap labor. Sad but true.

Nembrionic 02-04-2006 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ardy6931
Anyone who has something against a country that they have never been to is too bloody ignorant be worthy of making a statement of such magnitude against turkey.

This goes for about 95% of the world population regarding any country.
Politicians included. So what's your point?

u-Bob 02-04-2006 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nembrionic
Wrong. Turkey is on both the Asian and European continent. A so-called bi-continental country.

ok, 2.5% of the country is in europe, 97.5 % is in asia.

Nembrionic 02-04-2006 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob
ok, 2.5% of the country is in europe, 97.5 % is in asia.


7% actualy. I agree, it's not much. But the whole Eurasia deal is a bit whack anyway.

Lev 02-04-2006 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardy6931
Anyone who has something against a country that they have never been to is too bloody ignorant be worthy of making a statement of such magnitude against turkey. I have spent a lot of time in turkey which happens to be one of europeans most frequently visited vacation spots. So they are not originally from europe, neither is half the soviet block countries that our now considered part of europe and the Eu.

It don't matter what anyone thinks of Turkey, bottom line is they will get in within 10-15 years when they are ready. THere is too much money to be made from their membership for them not to get in. Do the math people, third world people in the first world countries make great cheap labor. Sad but true.

Not until they face their bloody past and accept the Armenian Genocide and change their extreme laws, like imprisoning people for their views.

nico-t 02-04-2006 09:39 PM

noooooooooooooo!
i live in deventer. apart from other cities in holland, we have a huge turkish (ofcourse criminal) problems here. Please dont let eny more turks in here, enough is enough.

Nembrionic 02-04-2006 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t
noooooooooooooo!
i live in deventer. apart from other cities in holland, we have a huge turkish (ofcourse criminal) problems here. Please dont let eny more turks in here, enough is enough.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh You think Deventer is bad? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-04-2006 09:45 PM

Yeah that would be great.

An Islamic Wild Card playing Politics in real things that matter.

Fuck off Turks...

nico-t 02-04-2006 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh You think Deventer is bad? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Deventer is the turkish capital of holland!

adultfora 02-06-2006 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nembrionic
Wrong. Turkey is on both the Asian and European continent. A so-called bi-continental country.

No fuckin way - thats just the turks opinion because they wont give up the cypres they have tried to take with force.

they can go xxxxxx xxx xxxxxx and hope that hey newer will be a part of EU - turks is nothing but trouble

DamageX 02-06-2006 02:41 AM

The day Turkey joins the EU, Kreuzberg will no longer be called Kleine Istanbul. Kleine Berlin will replace it.

Cash 02-06-2006 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob
Turkey is an asian country, not a european one, so it has no place in the EU.
If you accept Turkey, then you have to accept, Morocco, Egypt, Indonesia, Japan,...

You wish Japan was part of the EU ...

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 03:25 AM

The thing that many of you are forgeting is why would the EU big three (Germany UK and France) want Turky in the EU?

The reason they want them in, is its our gateway to the middle east. It gives us access to the muslim countries and the oil.

Michael O 02-06-2006 03:41 AM

I hope Turkey won't join the EU.
I think the differences between my country and Turkey is simply to big to overcome. Turkey isn't ready for the EU try comparing it with Denmark, Sweden, Holland and the other North European countries, the differences are just to big.
The population in most of the orginal EU countries is against Turkey joining and I don't see it happen.

Sarah_Jayne 02-06-2006 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
The thing that many of you are forgeting is why would the EU big three (Germany UK and France) want Turky in the EU?

The reason they want them in, is its our gateway to the middle east. It gives us access to the muslim countries and the oil.

bingo..the EU is an economic based block and that is how decissions are made no matter if they are popular choices or not

ControlThy 02-06-2006 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardy6931
It don't matter what anyone thinks of Turkey, bottom line is they will get in within 10-15 years when they are ready.

The French will most likely veto Turkish entry into the European Union in a referendum they have been promised. After this whole cartoon issue more Europeans will now be against Turkey joining than before.

I think the people of Europe should have a say in any enlargement of the EU.

pornmonger 02-06-2006 04:10 AM

If you accept Turkey into the EU, Europe needs to be renamed Eurislam.

BTW I'm not European. I'm American.

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
I hope Turkey won't join the EU.
I think the differences between my country and Turkey is simply to big to overcome. Turkey isn't ready for the EU try comparing it with Denmark, Sweden, Holland and the other North European countries, the differences are just to big.
The population in most of the orginal EU countries is against Turkey joining and I don't see it happen.

You actually have to remember why the EU was formed and understand what the purpose of the EU is and was clearly set out from day one.

People think the EU was made for easier trading. It wasnt the EU was set up to stop another war in Europe. The common market was a bi product.

The fact that there are differences bewtween cultures makes not one bit of difference. Turky will be allowed in the EU, for two reason. Its the gateway to oil and to the middle east. It carries on furthering the actual cause of the EU.

pornmonger 02-06-2006 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
The thing that many of you are forgeting is why would the EU big three (Germany UK and France) want Turky in the EU?

The reason they want them in, is its our gateway to the middle east. It gives us access to the muslim countries and the oil.

They are going to make the same mistakes again. Turkey is going to be 2 faced and bit back like the middle east did after the British Mandate of WWI.

Britain gave Arab warlords control of Iraq and the middle east because they wanted to be allies for oil. And look what happened?

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmonger
If you accept Turkey into the EU, Europe needs to be renamed Eurislam.

BTW I'm not European. I'm American.

Dont worry, we could tell.

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmonger
They are going to make the same mistakes again. Turkey is going to be 2 faced and bit back like the middle east did after the British Mandate of WWI.

Britain gave Arab warlords control of Iraq and the middle east because they wanted to be allies for oil. And look what happened?

Again. It makes no difference to what will happen. Turky will be allowed to join the EU, if any of us think its a good idea or not. Turky in the EU gives the EU a platform to the middle east and oil

pornmonger 02-06-2006 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
You actually have to remember why the EU was formed and understand what the purpose of the EU is and was clearly set out from day one.

People think the EU was made for easier trading. It wasnt the EU was set up to stop another war in Europe. The common market was a bi product.

The fact that there are differences bewtween cultures makes not one bit of difference. Turky will be allowed in the EU, for two reason. Its the gateway to oil and to the middle east. It carries on furthering the actual cause of the EU.

Being accepted in the EU has stipulations. One being debt to income ratio, GDP growth, and several other economic factors. Secondly, the people of member EU countries must ratify new countries to joining.

Based on that Turkey won't be joining anytime soon. The French and the Dutch have already rejected the EU constitution based upon the consideration of Turkey being accepted.

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmonger
Being accepted in the EU has stipulations. One being debt to income ratio, GDP growth, and several other economic factors. Secondly, the people of member EU countries must ratify new countries to joining.

Based on that Turkey won't be joining anytime soon. The French and the Dutch have already rejected the EU constitution based upon the consideration of Turkey being accepted.

The rejection of the EU constitution had nothing to do with Turkey. It has everything to do with most citizens not wanting a United states of Europe.

With regards to the "people of member EU countries must ratify new countries to joining" is complete tripe. We have no say at all. You honestly think we would have allowed all these third world eastern european countries in the EU if we had a vote on it?

Katrina 02-06-2006 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
You honestly think we would have allowed all these third world eastern european countries in the EU if we had a vote on it?

Have you been there?

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katrina
Have you been there?

Have I been where?

Sarah_Jayne 02-06-2006 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katrina
Have you been there?

A lot of people in Europe go on vaction to Turkey.

Katrina 02-06-2006 04:48 AM

In "third world eastern european countries" which now are in EU.

ControlThy 02-06-2006 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
The rejection of the EU constitution had nothing to do with Turkey. It has everything to do with most citizens not wanting a United states of Europe.You honestly think we would have allowed all these third world eastern european countries in the EU if we had a vote on it?

Turkey's accession to the EU did play a role in the rejection of the constitution, though a quite small one.

Eastern European countries are not third-world countries, I suggest you do some research.

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katrina
In "third world eastern european countries" which now are in EU.


Yes I have, many places.

But this may come as a shock to you. I am not the total population of Europe and so where I may have been or may not have been makes no difference to how the members of the EU would have voted in such elections, with reference to the post you are refering to. :2 cents:

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ControlThy
Turkey's accession to the EU did play a role in the rejection of the constitution, though a quite small one.

Eastern European countries are not third-world countries, I suggest you do some research.

I suggest you do some research. Many of the former eastern block countries did have and still have huge areas of the countries that live in third world conditions.

ControlThy 02-06-2006 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
I suggest you do some research. Many of the former eastern block countries did have and still have huge areas of the countries that live in third world conditions.

So you are saying that we can compare, for example, the Czech Republic with Ethiopia?

The nations that joined the EU recently are considered Second World countries.

Please check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World

Michael O 02-06-2006 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
You actually have to remember why the EU was formed and understand what the purpose of the EU is and was clearly set out from day one.

People think the EU was made for easier trading. It wasnt the EU was set up to stop another war in Europe. The common market was a bi product.

The fact that there are differences bewtween cultures makes not one bit of difference. Turky will be allowed in the EU, for two reason. Its the gateway to oil and to the middle east. It carries on furthering the actual cause of the EU.

If don't think so.
France voted NON to the last EU treaty it were more a no to Turkey than to the treaty. There is big opposition among the people against having Turkey join the EU and goverments will be voted out if they call for Turkish membership and I don't think they will take that chance.

Michael O 02-06-2006 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
The rejection of the EU constitution had nothing to do with Turkey. It has everything to do with most citizens not wanting a United states of Europe.

With regards to the "people of member EU countries must ratify new countries to joining" is complete tripe. We have no say at all. You honestly think we would have allowed all these third world eastern european countries in the EU if we had a vote on it?

Like I said above the no in France had everything to do with Turkey, many Frenchmen voted no in fear of it would allow Turkish membership.

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ControlThy
So you are saying that we can compare, for example, the Czech Republic with Ethiopia?

The nations that joined the EU recently are considered Second World countries.

Please check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World


Ethiopia wasnt given the chance to join the EU strangley enough. But as someone who as actually been to Latvia, Slovakia & Poland I can tell you much of it is akin to third world conditions. The reason the countries on a whole may not be regarded as third world is that there are many parts that are not.

Most Europeans would regard not having access to electricity, water and health care third world, regardless of how it is defined.

Katrina 02-06-2006 05:10 AM

Ok...those are not the richest countries, but for example what was Ireland 20 years ago? Very rich country? From those countries there arent more then 60 millions people which culture is really different from european culture.

haig 02-06-2006 05:16 AM

%80 of turkish people doesnot want to join eu
only goverment wants to join and some rich people because they want to sell products to eu so goverment and them are acting together they dont think what turkish people want
fuck eu fuck denmark
they are only shitty christian club
i will clean my ass with their bibles papers

wielco 02-06-2006 05:19 AM

I'm against too

wielco 02-06-2006 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haig
i will clean my ass with their bibles papers

LOL good luck, i rather use normal toilet paper tosser

Johny Traffic 02-06-2006 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katrina
Ok...those are not the richest countries, but for example what was Ireland 20 years ago? Very rich country? From those countries there arent more then 60 millions people which culture is really different from european culture.

You are mis understanding me. What I think about these countries being allowed to join the EU is of no relevence. I'm not saying they shouldnt have been alowed because they are poor. What I said was, if the EU citizens would have voted on such a thing. They would in my opinion chose against letting these poorer Eastern European countries in.

Katrina 02-06-2006 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
You are mis understanding me. What I think about these countries being allowed to join the EU is of no relevence. I'm not saying they shouldnt have been alowed because they are poor. What I said was, if the EU citizens would have voted on such a thing. They would in my opinion chose against letting these poorer Eastern European countries in.

Yes, maybe they would vote no. And mostly because there arent enough information what is what. But for Turkey....actually time will show..there is a at least 10 years before they will be taken in EU, and many things can happen (as we can see situation in world isnt nicest at the moment).

ControlThy 02-06-2006 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haig
%80 of turkish people doesnot want to join eu

Source, or are you just making up statistics?

All the polls I have seen show a majority of Turks wanting to join the European Union.

haig 02-06-2006 06:29 AM

etention Please son of bitchs;
don't worry about it, i'm Turkish nationelist & i never want to join EU; you don't fucking know, if Turkiye is not going to Europ Comunity how is fucking dangerous
waiting to Your big oily asses.
our fucking Goverment licking America's ass, if they are not doing that we can make a develop strategy with Russia & China & we can fuck all over the mothers of the world,
Russia ready for this event in anycase, many of the Russian Companies evrytime joining our marketing Activities & etc.
%7 of the my country is a Europ Aria, but i don't care about it, my incesters coming from middle Asia & Cibiria, so we mast be in the Asia Comunity, & we mast fuck theyer mother who hates us, some days we will show Strong of Turks them; who don't know.
you don't know how military we hav, you don't know how Stratejic & jeopolitic important we hav.
my Rather is join the Asiant+3 (Asia Comunity), we don't nead a fucking cristian clubs, we don't nead a hater people.
my stupit people thinking about you; you are friendly, respectfull & modern people, they are trying to be similar with Your fucking unculturel Bullshits, some days they will learn Your 2. face, but it will be so late.
Forinner people when come here to Travel, my people being so Friendly againce them, they are not doing bad thinks, if they are cutting Your dirty heads, you can not spoil like that.
i hav many forenner friends here, Americans, Europians, ffar east & other, i never inpolite againce them, but on this board people making me Crazy.+


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