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Bike 01-25-2006 08:40 AM

Ferrari owners, please come in here - some serious questions
 
Hello,

I know this is possibly the dumbest forum to ask it but I know there are some ferrari owners in here.

I am wondering what the common problems are with ferraris in general?
What kind of costs am I looking at yearly for repairs/service etc?

And I'm especially interested in knowing about common problems with the 355 and 360.

Yes, I've asked at the dealership too but I want to hear it from non biased owners.

Thanks for your help. I know most (ex) owners say they suck but I'm still interested in the answers :)

regards,
Mike

leggs 01-25-2006 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bike
Hello,

I know this is possibly the dumbest forum to ask it but I know there are some ferrari owners in here.

I am wondering what the common problems are with ferraris in general?
What kind of costs am I looking at yearly for repairs/service etc?

And I'm especially interested in knowing about common problems with the 355 and 360.

Yes, I've asked at the dealership too but I want to hear it from non biased owners.

Thanks for your help. I know most (ex) owners say they suck but I'm still interested in the answers :)

regards,
Mike

People keying your car at the mall

Dirty F 01-25-2006 08:42 AM

You're not gonna buy a yellow one are you? That seems like a common problem.

Trax 01-25-2006 08:43 AM

Go with a porsche
only buy a ferrari if this has always been a dream of yours and you really really want one
:winkwink:
whatever you get... have fun and do it pimp :)

kernelpanic 01-25-2006 08:44 AM

Lambos are where its at

Bike 01-25-2006 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
People keying your car at the mall

LOL :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
You're not gonna buy a yellow one are you? That seems like a common problem.

I couldn't care less about the color of the car at the moment LOL
I wanna know about some engine problems first.

WarChild 01-25-2006 08:47 AM

Frank's right. If people would stop buying yellow cars, maybe they'd stop making them.

Korban 01-25-2006 08:48 AM

Buy a toyota.

ssp 01-25-2006 08:49 AM

One of Ferrari's most serious problems in that the engine, arguably especially in the 355, causes problems with speed cameras.

Many of my Ferrari owning friends have encounters these problems, so I would definitely take this into account when you plan on buying a Ferrari.

Quagmire 01-25-2006 08:49 AM

If your penis is small, buy a dick stretcher from www.fastsize.com. Its a hell of a lot cheaper than a Ferrari. (and it won't get keyed at the mall)

Dirty F 01-25-2006 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Frank's right. If people would stop buying yellow cars, maybe they'd stop making them.


Wow, you agreed with me??? Is there something wrong with you?

Chio 01-25-2006 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Frank's right. If people would stop buying yellow cars, maybe they'd stop making them.

:1orglaugh

Bike 01-25-2006 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
Go with a porsche
only buy a ferrari if this has always been a dream of yours and you really really want one
:winkwink:
whatever you get... have fun and do it pimp :)

Yes, as long as I can remember I've always collected Testarossa model cars etc LOL It's a dream. Unfortunately I don't like the look of porsches (no offense), it wouldve made things a LOT easier if I liked them :(

Minte 01-25-2006 09:14 AM

The costs of maintenance will vary a lot based on what vintage and model you go with.Some of them require a full engine out maintenance at 15k and that will set you back quite a bit.

The newer models 360,360cs,430 are much more drivable and maintenance friendly.
I test drove a 360 last year before buying my Lambo.The 360 really didn't seem fast to me.Very smooth power band.
If you have a lot of technical questions about individual models hit me on icq(four one four zero one six two) and I can steer you to the proper forums where the real experts reside.

woj 01-25-2006 09:32 AM

the only problem I have is now a days with gas prices high, I can't afford to drive it... :(

Phoenix 01-25-2006 09:33 AM

dont know much about them...but wed be happy to be sending you enough to cover your lease and gas payments..lol

fuzebox 01-25-2006 09:38 AM

Did you ask the dealership if they'd take 200 PSPs as a down-payment? :)

grumpy 01-25-2006 09:47 AM

no engine problems, just take it easy when its cold. Yearly maintanance will set you back around 5k a year and around 10k every third year.

VicD 01-25-2006 09:51 AM

How about driving one?

lickmymonster 01-25-2006 09:55 AM

[email protected]

Tell them you heard Clyde could get you one for free.

Holly 01-25-2006 09:57 AM

Britney Spears says to tell you that they suck.

iwantchixx 01-25-2006 10:02 AM

Go Bugatti. 1001HP can't be wrong!

Bike 01-25-2006 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy
no engine problems, just take it easy when its cold. Yearly maintanance will set you back around 5k a year and around 10k every third year.

Thank you - this is info I'm interested in :thumbsup

jayeff 01-25-2006 10:25 AM

It's 30 years since I owned a 246 Dino and anyway the problem I experienced was one which seemed to afflict high-performance cars in general, not just Ferraris. But it was that whenever I could only drive around the city for more than a couple of weeks, the engine would start to run very rough. It was easily enough taken care of with a late-night run up a motorway, but still a pain.

Owning that car was the fulfillment of a 10-year-old dream and the car itself was everything I expected. But I lived in London then and once the novelty wore off, the attention became tiresome, driving it in traffic most of the time was hard work and I really didn't enjoy being constantly in other drivers' blind spots. After about 6 months I replaced it with an XJ12 and drove Jaguars right up until I moved to the US a few years ago: not near as good for posing or having some fun when the law wasn't looking, but an all-around much better car to use every day.

FUCK J0EL 01-25-2006 10:26 AM

Winter tires are hard to find ;)

Holly 01-25-2006 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bike
Thank you - this is info I'm interested in :thumbsup

You didn't like my Britney Spears pictures? :(

I thought they were relevant and topical.

DutchTeenCash 01-25-2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
It's 30 years since I owned a 246 Dino and anyway the problem I experienced was one which seemed to afflict high-performance cars in general, not just Ferraris. But it was that whenever I could only drive around the city for more than a couple of weeks, the engine would start to run very rough. It was easily enough taken care of with a late-night run up a motorway, but still a pain.

Owning that car was the fulfillment of a 10-year-old dream and the car itself was everything I expected. But I lived in London then and once the novelty wore off, the attention became tiresome, driving it in traffic most of the time was hard work and I really didn't enjoy being constantly in other drivers' blind spots. After about 6 months I replaced it with an XJ12 and drove Jaguars right up until I moved to the US a few years ago: not near as good for posing or having some fun when the law wasn't looking, but an all-around much better car to use every day.

a dino isnt a 360 you know that too... anyhow Id pick a XJ over a dino for sure, ok a dino looks amazing but Ferraris are costly to maintain worse then a Jag, I know a guy who has a Countach, its always in the garage.

These cars are nice if you have serious cash to maintain them. 20k for a service is kinda normal for a Ferarri if you need some stuff done, tires etc too.

DutchTeenCash 01-25-2006 10:33 AM

Ask the datinggold guy btw he just got a Ferrari

Screaming 01-25-2006 10:37 AM

I want to have a legit reason to post in this thread in the next year.

Bookmarked.

baddog 01-25-2006 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly


She has sure gone to hell in a handbasket

Manowar 01-25-2006 10:48 AM

ferrarichat.com :)

TexasDreams 01-25-2006 10:58 AM

Found this...

PRICE SHEET

(All prices are approximations; prices include appropriate parts and labor)

*15,000 mile (MINOR) Service for 308's, 328's, Mondial 3.2's, & QV's = $1195.00
(348's and Mondial t's are $1495.00 & F355's are $1995.00 due to parts cost and added labor)

{Documentation of every service comes complete with full write-up, pictures, and receipts for your records}

-Replace Spark Plugs (NGK or Bosch)
-Change Oil and install new Filter
-Replace Air Filter
-Change Transaxle Gear Fluid
-Replace Fuel Filter(s)
-Bleed Brake Lines
-Replace Coolant
-Replace A/C Belt
-Replace Alternator Belt
-Replace Water Pump Belt
-Check Lambda System
-Check Fuel Injection System
-Check Air Conditioning System (possibly pressures)
-Inspect Distributor Caps / Rotors / Ignition Wires
-Inspect all Bulbs
-Inspect all Motors
-Pressurize Coolant System (check for leaks, replace hose(s) if necessary)
-Check CV Boots
-Thorough Inspection of entire car



*30,000 mile (MAJOR) Service for 308's, 328's, Mondial 3.2's & QV's = $2995.00
(348's are $3995.00, Mondial t's are $4995.00, and F355's are $5575.00 due to parts cost, engine removal, etc.)

{Documentation of every Major Service comes complete with a full write-up, pictures, and all receipts for your records}

-Replace Spark Plugs (NGK or Bosch)
-Replace Timing Belts and Tensioner Bearings
-Replace Cam Seals and Housing O-Rings
-Replace Valve Cover Gaskets
-Replace Distributor Seals and Housing Gaskets
-Replace Distributor Cap Gaskets
-Replace Cam End Cover Gaskets
-Replace Air Filter
-Replace Fuel Filter(s)
-Replace A/C Belt
-Replace Alternator / Water Pump Belt
-Adjust Valves (where applicable)
-Torque Cam Journals
-Torque Heads (check only)
-Set Timing
-Bleed Brake Lines
-Change Oil and New Filter
-Change Transaxle Gear Fluid
-Replace Coolant
-Inspection/Service of Air Conditioning System (recharge "R12" extra on 308's/348's but "R134" is included on F355's)
-Inspect all Lines (fuel, oil, water) and replace if necessary (extra charge for parts)
-Check of Lambda System and Bosch Fuel Injection System (make adjustments if necessary)
-Clean Engine Compartment
-Pressurize Coolant System, check for leaks
-Inspect CV Boots
-Inspect Fuse Panel
-Inspect Tires / Adj. Tire pressure

{The items below are inspected and advised to the customer at no charge. If any item(s) require service, the customer will be advised of the cost.

-Inspect Water Pump
-Inspect all Seals (shift shaft, main, timing gear assy)
-Inspect Ignition Wires / Caps / Rotors
-Inspect all Bulbs, Lights, Electrical Motors
-Inspect Clutch Pedal play (adjustment setting if necessary)
-Inspect all Suspension Bushings / Connections
-Inspect all Exhaust Joints / Connections for leaks
-Inspect Brake Pads and Discs
-Inspect Wheel Bearings



*3 Year (Timing Belt Change Only) Timing Belt Service for 360 Modena's = $1595.00

{Documentation of every service comes complete with full write-up, pictures, and receipts for your records}

-Change Both Timing Belts
-Set Timing Belt Tension (reset tensioners)
-Check/Set Cam Timing
-Replace all Accessory Belts
-Inspect Idler Bearings
-Change Coolant



*(MAJOR) Service for 360 Modena's = $3595.00

{Documentation of every service comes complete with full write-up, pictures, and receipts for your records}

-Change Both Timing Belts
-Set Timing Belt Tension (reset tensioners)
-Check/Set Cam Timing
-Replace all Accessory Belts
-Replace Both Idler Bearings
-Change Oil and Filter (incl. cleaning screen)
-Change Gear Oil (incl. cleaning screen)
-Change Air Filters
-Change F1 Pump Fluid (if applicable)
-Change Brake Fluid
-Change Coolant
-Change Spark Plugs
-Check R134 Pressures
-Inspect Brakes
-Inspect Hoses
-Check Power Steering Fluid
-Check Alternator
-Inspect all Lines (fuel, oil, water) and replace if necessary (extra charge for parts)
-Check Oxygen Sensors
-Clean Engine Compartment
-Pressurize Coolant System, check for leaks
-Inspect CV Boots
-Inspect Fuse Panels
-Inspect Tires / Adj. Tire pressure
-Inspect Water Pump
-Inspect all Seals
-Inspect Ignition Wires
-Inspect all Bulbs, Lights, Electrical Motors
-Inspect all Suspension Bushings / Connections
-Inspect all Exhaust Joints / Connections for leaks



Other Routine Services:
(prices are approximations and are geared towards 308's, 328's, Mondial 3.2's, and 308QV's)

-Timing Belt and Tensioner Bearing replacement = $995.00
-Water Pump Rebuild (incl. remove and reinstall) = $595.00 ($845 for older models req. timing belt cover removal)
-Shift Shaft Seal, Oil Pan Gaskets, and Trans Pan Gaskets (plus all fluids) replacement = $695.00
-Oil Change and Filter (308/328) = $125.00
-Oil Change and Filter (348/Mondial t) = $145.00
-Oil Change and Filter (F355) = $189.00
-Pressure Bleed Brakes (all four corners) = $85.00
-Transmission Fluid Change = $89.00
-Coolant Replacement = $85.00
-Completely Tune Bosch Fuel Injection System = $195.00
-Service Air Conditioning System recharge (incl. up to 2lbs. of Freon)= $195.00
-Replace Front Brake Pads (includes bleeding, rotor turning and wheel bearings extra) = $175.00
-Replace Rear Brake Pads (includes bleeding, rotor turning and wheel bearings extra) = $175.00
-Replace Alternator = $595.00
-Replace Starter = $495.00
-Steering Rack Replacement (complete with rubber mtg. bushings, Tie Rods, & Alignment) = $1395.00
-Replace Radiator Fans (remove, rebuild, and reinstall) = $155.00 each
-Remove, rod out, and reinstall radiator = $495.00
-Replace Distributor Caps and Rotors = $895.00
-Replace Ignition Wire set = $695.00
-Replace all Accessory Belts = $195.00
-Clutch and Pressure Plate Replacement = $1385.00
-Clutch, Pressure Plate, T.O. Bearing, Pilot Bearing, Ring Nut, Resurface Flywheel = $1598.00
-Replace CV Boots = $355.00 per axle (308, Mondial), $455.00 per axle (F355)
-Replace all fuel injectors = $395.00
-Complete Detail Job = $100.00
-OBDII Test & Analyze (complete with print out) = $149.00
-5 Gas Exhaust Gas Test & Analyze (complete with print out) = $199.00
-Compression and Leak Down Test (complete with filled out form and all the data) = $250.00
-Suspension Bushing Replacement (308/328) (all 4 corners) = $2195.00


*Note for 348 / Mondial t / F355 owners : Owners of cars with over 30k miles should seriously consider changing the water pump and front seal at the time of the Major Service. This particular type of Major Service (what we call a Major Service Plus) is approximately $4695 for 348's and $6495 for F355's.


*Attention F355 owners : We currently offer a complete Head Rebuild along with a Major Service for F355's. F355's built between 1995 to early 1998 have the well known "inferior" valve guides orginally used by Ferrari, and the heads on these cars will not last. This complete service includes completely removing and rebuilding the heads along with a complete Major Service and a water pump and front seal. This particular type of Major Service with Head Rebuild is approximately $11995. Note: Cars with higher mileage may require bottom end work which is extra.

O MARINA 01-25-2006 11:07 AM

FYI - to everyone who is interested in buying one, Bike's SexSearch weekly payouts are paying for it :winkwink:

Bike 01-25-2006 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA
FYI - to everyone who is interested in buying one, Bike's SexSearch weekly payouts are paying for it :winkwink:

IT'S TRUE :thumbsup

Bike 01-25-2006 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasDreams
Found this...

PRICE SHEET

Awesome, thank you!

KRL 01-25-2006 12:39 PM

Ever wonder why so many high end car buyers put them up for sale after only a year or two?

Save yourself the headaches. They are fun cars to drive but the costs of ownership are exhorbinant as is insurance, speeding tickets, and high speed collision risks.

Best thing to do is to just have lots of rich friends that have them and go for a drive with them instead. Guys with Ferrari's, Lambos, etc. always love showing off their wheelz with free rides for friends.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Big Red Machine 01-25-2006 01:29 PM

I'm surprised MPegMaster didn't post a pic of his Red Ferrari yet

OldSchoolJim 01-25-2006 01:35 PM

Bike...you know you can always holler at me when it comes to Ferrari.....

Mine never had any mechanical probs as i was always getting a new one......but if you keep with the scheduled maintenance programs you should be fine....

Big Red Machine 01-25-2006 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
She has sure gone to hell in a handbasket

:1orglaugh Ahh she's Hott for a MILF

Mpegmaster 01-25-2006 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red Machine
I'm surprised MPegMaster didn't post a pic of his Red Ferrari yet


YOur wish my command


http://www.mpegmaster.com/scooter.jpg


now beat my ferrari bitches..........it has 100cc under the hood......:winkwink:

DatingGold 01-25-2006 03:27 PM

I didn't read the whole thread so forgive me if I repeat something.

I have a Ferrari F430 spider, I highly recommend this model. In either the spider or coupe version. However I know the price isn't very comparable to a 360 and definitely not a 355.

I know owners of both 360's and 355's and from what they all tell me, you definitely want to go with the 360.

If you are getting a F1 transmission, definitely stay away from the 355. The F1 transmission wasn;t advanced enough yet in that model. There is a noticeable delay in shifting much unlike in the F430.

In short if you want a ferrari just to have one, get an older 360 coupe. If you are a serious Ferrari fanatic I would do whatever you can to get yourself in the F430.

natas 01-25-2006 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox
Did you ask the dealership if they'd take 200 PSPs as a down-payment? :)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bike 01-25-2006 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJim
Bike...you know you can always holler at me when it comes to Ferrari.....

Mine never had any mechanical probs as i was always getting a new one......but if you keep with the scheduled maintenance programs you should be fine....

I'll hit you up tomorrow or so :) Thanks!


Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold
I didn't read the whole thread so forgive me if I repeat something.

I have a Ferrari F430 spider, I highly recommend this model. In either the spider or coupe version. However I know the price isn't very comparable to a 360 and definitely not a 355.

I know owners of both 360's and 355's and from what they all tell me, you definitely want to go with the 360.

If you are getting a F1 transmission, definitely stay away from the 355. The F1 transmission wasn;t advanced enough yet in that model. There is a noticeable delay in shifting much unlike in the F430.

In short if you want a ferrari just to have one, get an older 360 coupe. If you are a serious Ferrari fanatic I would do whatever you can to get yourself in the F430.

Thanks for the advice, you aren't the first one who told me to stay away from the 355. I'll definitely keep that and the F1 problem in mind :thumbsup


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