Who really believes in death do us part or Love every relationship needs a contract!
 

I do believe you can love someone as much as you can love many people.

Men and Woman have always cheated even back 100 years the only difference is woman now have rights, voice and equality.
So why not treat relationships like a business with contracts so everyone knows what they get upfront and cut out all the bull shit. Woman will run circles around men yes men rule the world but they do it for pussy or Ass depending on your life style.

It took me a long time to understand what woman want! which is security from a man and all women like to shop and look nice and the easiest route to achieve this is through a man. When I finally tried this new approach to a relationship instead of worry about the gold-digger aspects and taking half bullshit! Life started to become less stressful and fun.

I have an agreement with my girlfriend she gets what she wants as long as I get what I want of course everything in reason that we agreed on.
Example: if she wants a private jet and I can?t afford it then she doesn?t get it but if a can one day then she will get her private jet same goes with anything else her little heart desires.
She doesn?t try to play me she works hard and wants many things in life as we all do. So it?s a Partnership with rules.
It makes things so simple. If we didn?t agree on the terms we decided on we would just end it right away, why waste time life is to short. Just like many business deals that never can find a common agreement they just never materialize and all parties move on.

Example some of the rules are she can shop have whatever she wants as long as I get the type of sex I want whether it be just a blowjob or have her bring another girl. She also understands if and when she gets pregnant and she doesn?t want to put out, I?m allowed to go fuck someone, If her ass gets to big and she doesn?t maintain her cute figure within reason the contract is breached etc. Those are just a few of our agreement. Obviously everyone has there own.
This way everyone has there cards out and all the bullshit later doesn?t happen.
Fuck this take half bullshit. Woman can find another man to take care of them easy. If not put that in the agreement 1 year you get nothing 5 years you get 50K 10 years or over with kids etc, they get enough to take care of the kids with comfort it all depends on the income level but you guys get my point. Women don?t want to end up alone at 50 when we men decide to find a 20 year old...

Don?t get me wrong I love my Girl to death but if the rules were to be broken its over
Nothing last forever we all die one day and while I?m alive I?m going to be happy with or without her... Trust me there will always be another door open.

I never got the "death do us part" thing anyway... being that it's said by a religious guy who believes that you go to heaven and continue to be together for ever and ever anyway...

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They all eventually rip out your heart and stomp on it..paperwork means shit to those she devils :mad:

Thats because you didnt have a contract or agreement upfront. maybe she would have wanted to bang another guy once in a while. there can be no double standards thats why you lay out what you want before you continue.
Everyone is fake in the beginning and tries to get what they want this just cuts all that time and bullshit out.

I got lucky my girl hates men and loves woman but I waited for the right Partner and I didnt settle. and I will never be miserable lifes to short.

Woman are amazing I love them all you just have to understand them and they will take care of you

I find myself agreing with Roger V's social outlooks more than anyone else on the board. :thumbsup

Men and women have clearly defined roles and needs. If you don't realize that and act accordingly then you are just walking around life blind.

There's really no such thing as golddiggers.

Definitly... I've seen lots of guys who managed to have the upper hand with girl, but one thing they can't control is sex.

The day when she tries to control you with it, if you don't act like you don't give a fuck (wich means no more sex for 6 months if she dosen't like it ... and she was lying to you), then she's got the upper hand ;

i believe in death do us part, but i definately do not see a rush or a need for marriage. i do not believe in soul mates though, i believe love is learned and you can learn to love alot of different people if you give it the time.

some women think if they are not married by 25 that the sky is fallling, i think you should be able to be with someone without having to put a ring on the finger. i do not plan on getting married for a long long time, even if i was dating my current girlfriend for 10+ years.

i think the problem is to many people find a need to rush into things, i like to sit back and enjoy the moment, i try to live as if everyday could be my last.

the whole death do us part thing has to do with giving yourself fully to someone, i do that anyway when in every realationship anyway. i cannot stand people who walk around like damaged goods and compare old realationships to new ones and are afraid of getting hurt.

My wife and I have been together now 11 years (married for 8)...and we're still the textbook epitome of soulmates and best friends. We finish one another's sentences, exchange thoughts with just a glance or two...and we're generally on the same wavelength about the majority of important issues and ideologies.

Even more remarkable, we originally met through an adult/fetish BBS. We got to know one another for a few months through text messages only, and perhaps that's what helped the matchmaking (shrug).

I never would have said it in the past, but I'm now a believer in 'till death do us part'. I've finally gotten my 'dawg days' put behind me and now so monogamous its almost sickening. :1orglaugh

If you have rules no one needs to have the upper hand. I used to think I had it till they all decided it was over. you cannot control anyone but yourself.

Just an example of my life the past 24 hours
Last nite I gave my girl $100 on top of what I pay her for work etc. because she was going out to dinner with a old girlfriend of hers and I wanted her to have a good time.
this morning My girl gave me a blowjob and took off to start her day as she said how much she loved me on the way out the door.

Understand what a girl wants and she will love you forever break the contract and it will end in spite like anything else

this is 2006 ...Marrige is only a contract to make sure the woman dont get fucked over

I totally disagree because you can pay a hooker and get the sex that you want anytime you want it. If you are in a relationship there are no rules other than sincerity and respect. You should treat your girl the same way you would like to be treated. Yes men and women have different needs and likings but in a relationship you should not think who has the upper hand as both hands are together. If you are happy then she is happy and vise versa. The time where you start doubting things that is when you need to end it.

My 2 cents.

damn dude, you sound like my wife and I. We are always together, best friends at the hip....going on 7 years now and it is just like we met and fell in love last week

my wife and i have been together over 10 years....still no one i would rather be with and we spend every moment together...we go out together we chill together...and the4 only friends we have are the people that understand that.....i trust her with my life and my $$ and she does the same....so it IS out there.....

Personally, I believe you shouldn't marry anyone that you don't trust or KNOW 100%. Some people change after marriage and that's only because they weren't being honest along. People don't suddenly change... these new personality traits just surfaced later on.

Some people rush to judgment too quickly or are blinded by other things, such as attrative appearances and/or money. In my eyes, you should only want to marry someone if you love them unconditonally and they love and trust you the same. Unconditionally goes beyond in sickness and in health. You should love and WANT the relationship whether your partner gains 200 lbs, goes broke and doesn't have a cent to their name, and many other superficial factors of life. If you can't imagine loving and staying with someone through the worst of the worst, then WHY marry them if there's a chance you could change your mind depending on what life throws at them or the choices they make?

A lot of divorcees say "They weren't like this before we were married." BULLSHIT! People need to use their minds and see people for what they truly are. People are naive and live in denial and too often, take things at face value. All beauty, sex, and money aside... marriage is not for everyone. If you are entering it solely for the purpose of assigning duties, monogamy and something sacred is not for you.

I could never live with myself knowing my husband's main interest in me is sex or other shallow things. I also couldn't live with myself taking things in return. There's a fine line between security and prostitution. Security is when the bills get paid, you have a warm home and there's food on the table. Diamonds, fancy cars, and $2k purses are luxury items that shouldn't make or break a marriage.

This is exactly why you need to have things in writing before you say I do. so everyone knows what they are agreeing on. sorry shit happens and love rarely last forever if its not blood thick. If it does last till death it was a great partnership.

I agree relations are not just about sex and materialistic things. but taking half is bull shit unless you earned it not married into it.
ALl I'm saying is lay your cards out first and there is never any surprises I personally recomend it in writing before you say I Do so there is no miss understandings if it doesnt work out.

Congrats on the longevity to you both. :thumbsup :thumbsup

Wait until you have children lol, then all bets are off.

all i gotta say, is you've got serious issues if you ever purposely get married.... case closed.

We have 4 kids between us.....you know what they say...3rd times a charm!!

That is how i konw the difference!! LOL been on the other side!

I dunno, I've been in the opposite situation, it was the men who tore my heart out and stomped on them. They were the ones who fucked around, pulled bullshit, ruined things, and nothing I did changed it, so I walked away. I am now with a man who treats me with love and respect, and I treat him the same, and as long as you are nurturing that relationship in all ways possible, there's no reason why it should ever become a "business" thing. You want to share everythign you have with th eperson you love...

That being said, I ALSO agree that it is human nature to "cheat", anthropologically this has been proven, it's simply another way for our species to proliferate itself. Hence the reason I pick his girlfriends and give him the variety he needs without him having to "look" outside the relationship to get it. Why not share in it with him, we both gain pleasure from it, and at the end of the day, ALL our needs are fulfilled. Anything is possible, it really all depends on the people in the relationship.

The biggest problem with all of this is that the human heart is a fickle thing... People fall in love with someone, and no matter what you tell them or how hard you try to show them, they refuse to believe the worst until it's too late, and by then their bank account and emotions have been affected. I've seen it so many times, people I cared about falling into the traps of manipulative people who use the emotions of others to get what they want. That's not an easy battle to fight.

I've been with my wife for 14 years and married for 8. One thing I learned was that marriage is an ongoing project, not a contract on paper. If you don't put effort in to loving your partner, you get the same in return and you end up unhappy.

My wife and I are best friends and even though after 14 years our interests have shifted at the end of the day she comes home to spend time with me (and I with her) because we feel the want to spend time with eachother.

Marriage is not like dating where people have this disgusting need to spend every waking moment together. There isn't a person on the planet that I want to spend every waking moment with. You need interaction with alternate sources to keep a relationship healthy. IMHO of course.

I agree with you to a certain degree. Not everyone who gets something out of a divorce "earns" it... but that is the risk you take when you marry someone.

In NY where I live and many other states, what you own before marriage is always yours and what you buy after marriage, automatically belongs to your spouse as well. Unless there is a pre-nup or other arrangements while the divorce is taking place.

If people would just communicate and plan for life after the fantasy wedding more often, there wouldn't be so many bitter emotional and financial endings.

You're right. Some people only see what they want to see. Selective reality. Then later on, they kick themselves and ask why they didn't see it coming. Happens to everyone at some point or another... but there comes a point when you have to take responsibility for some of it and not just be the victim. I guess it all comes down to living and learning.

I agree with Roger. True love is out there but it's rare. For most of us, anything we do in life requires effort and rules. Relationships are no exception to that for most of us. Setting loose boundaries of conduct is a good way to maintain a healthy relationship assuming you want a long relationship. If you want the most out of life with the least amount of headaches or potential headaches, this is the best way, I think.

Marriage is over rated.
That is the first mistake of most marriages.

Been Married for 8 years now, and I have known the girl since I was like 15.

see, that is the exact reason I got my shit snipped....no babies for me