Do nice guys finish last
 

Or are they just in another race.

Ladies tell the truth

nice guys will end up with nice girls, and not as fast (usually not as hot as the bitchy girls also)

does finishing last mean you gave up on the race and got the girl?

I didn't lose yet, I just lost my turn, a lot. LOL
WG

The question is not about being a nice guy or not. Usually girls and that?s my opinion need excitement and someone who is fun to be with. We have enough drama to deal with and we need a guy to balance us by adding to the excitement. When I go out with a guy who always agrees with me, I tend to get bored after a while. Don?t get me wrong, nice guys will always win only if they know how to present themselves. Anyone who continuously says ?yes sweetie whatever you want? gets booted out very fast.

There's 2 sides to the nice coin and it has to do a lot with the women involved and a level of genuine respect:

In some cases, nice guys get walked all over and worn down into tiny little nubs by overbearing bitches that take advantage of them. They also get cheated on, used for their money and disrespected because nice is also considered as a weekness to some women.

Then again, it's the guys fault for being such a puss. Any guy that feels like they have to do everything their woman wants to the detriment of their own happiness just to avoid conflict has SERIOUS issues ... usually they are just too nice and non-confrontational and it quietly eats away at their soul.

Also, I have seen it to seen it happen to friends throughout life but it's hard to talk to them if they don't face it themselves. Most nice guys don't want to face it.

:2 cents:

Then again, if there's a genuine mutual respect there's no reason not to be nice ... I love my wife and have no reason NOT TO be nice to her and provide the best in life for her and my kids. She's not a bitch, nor is she materialistic, sneaky or coniving. She's a down as grown woman that understands me and knows how to treat a man. I'm not talking subserviant either. We have a great partnership.

You've met her, Roger - you know what I'm talking about! :winkwink:

Jesus, that hit the nail right on the head. Its like you were able to get right into my head with that J, its so accurate that its freaking me out.

WG

j$tlyes - great answer. :thumbsup

being nice doesn't mean you have to be a pussy.

I date a lot. and I'm nice.

but when i comes to dating someone who I want to get serious about - I get VERY picky these days. fuck dates are another story. some I'm super sweet - most that I end up in bed with are ones I don't care about - am curt with, and after flirting and catting with I just ask straight out to go and have sex with.

someone's late on a first date - they don't get a second. I believe in first impressions.

someone abuses me - ok, i might play the game to get laid if they are hot- but they will get dumped. someone like that RARLY goes to date 3. they often get date 2 if they are good in bed - but i just can't bring myself to goto date 3 with someone who doesn't respect me.

i want a lot in a partner.

someone who respects me. My business. My relationships in my business. And knows how to have fun and be happy in life.

that doesn't sound like a lot but apparently in my searching it is....

Been there and done with that.

When it comes to girls I am way to nice and it did in the past fuck me up. I will still be a nice guy but the women will deserve it and it won't come so easy ;-)

You got the right idea, SleazyDream,

No worries we all do.. Look to your left





another slut is coming :winkwink:

Nice guys dont always finish last, guys who don't have enough self respect and confidence to not put up with a "bad" woman do.

You gotta know when to stand your ground. Don't let a woman walk all over you, no matter how hot she is. It means she doesnt respect you and thats that.

Oh yea she's got a nice tight grip around your balls :winkwink:



Tell her I said Squeeeeze and give her a kiss for me on New years

I'm a nice guy, BUT not to nice. I don't let anyone, including women walk all over me. There's a limit to being nice. Of course, I hear women say "I wish I could find a nice guy" bla bla fucking bla. what they mean is

"I wish i could find a nice guy that I could bitch to about all my problems with the assholes that I date and at the same time make him think I want him, but keep dating the assholes and bitching about it"

that's basically what they are saying. Stop actually listening to everything they say because it will not get you anywhere. long ago I used to be the "way to nice guy", but that has ended. Now I have my limits.. Cross that line and I will make you feel like nothing. Fair is fair. You want to drag me along and bitch about the morons you chose? Then don't expect me to always act like I give a fuck. I've just about had it with all the bitching and whining.. boohoo a guy did this.. boohoo a guy did that. And that's my fault?

Simply put, be nice, but not to nice. The instant you feel the girl is taking advantage of you shove your foot up her ass. (not literally.. you know what I mean lol)

Fact is, women want the opposite of what they say so don't buy their bullshit.

this man is a GOD. :thumbsup

No place I'd rather have my balls but in her grip

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Finishing first gives you the chance to choose the finest meat. :winkwink:

the only way it will work if there is trust and respect on both ends.

If your girl is jelous your going to be miserable

always start out the relationship real and open if it get serious to fast slow it down no need to rush or it will end up unhealthy

you always have to keep hand soon as you slip they will lose respect
be a man and always surprise your girl with random stuff like flowers, cards and sex when they least expect it.

You got it :thumbsup

thats why I always break them down first then build them back up the way I want them :1orglaugh

all you have to remember is there will always be another girl if she doesnt work out. trust me never show weakness ever
my parents are still together my mother ran the house but my father always had the final say if he chose too.

So I personally think nice guys finish last because woman will continue to walk all over them till they grow balls and be a man

All that matter is that you guys are happy

Seriously I wish you guys the best :)

I really dont think that ALL women are like that. Honestly.... I am sometimes prone to say that a lot of times nice GIRLS finish last.

Just like women want a bad boy at times... I have seen men that like BITCHY, high maintenance women.

i agree that you have to be a man, if you don't put on the pants - she will

i like to let a woman take care of the small details. i don't like to get caught up in details, but when i speak up it's for a fucking reason and she better have enough brain cells to listen or be prepared to leave. When I speak up about something it's not casual and I want someone who realizes that.

i'll find her.

i'm intrigued about the idea of breaking someone down though and building them back up... please elaborite. I've been working on the assumption that you can't really change someone and I've been searching for someone I don't have to fix. not in a hurry, having fun fucking a lot of bimbo's in the meantime - but VERY curious about your theory there on breaking down and rebuilding..

Well I look at it like this all my friends dated or married the bad boys right out of high school. We are all about 23 now and very few of us are still with those guys. Last time I talked to most of them they are now trying to get those nice guys and settle down. Funny how things change! So no the nice guy does not finish last he just has to wait till us girls get a little smarter. Melissa

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thats because the bad boys have moved on to the younger hotter girls and your clocks are ticking. who wants a used up girl after all the badboys are done with them :2 cents:
your right you realize your experation date is expiring. so you find a guy you can control after you had all your fun. :)

nothing wrong with that they deserve it for being nice guys.

and dont think you haver to be good looking to get a hot girl you just have to have confidence

My friend's first wife was a real cleanliness, super-religious, control freak: super clean, white carpets, bossy church lady type. She used to ride his ass daily.

One day he decided he had enough. She was giving him a raft of shit about buying the wrong lunchmeat or something equally inane, and he lost it....

He looked at her, smiled, and hocked the biggest luggy you can imagine, slowly turned his head, and dribbled the luggy on her white carpet. Then, he just smiled. She freaked!!

Her cleaning mania took over and she scrubbed the carpet.

Everytime afterwards, when he had enough, he'd just start hocking up a luggy and she would shut up.

They divorced shortly thereafter and he is now happily married to his second wife. :thumbsup

Its not easy to explain but basically you tap into there weakness's and get in there heads kinda like a pimp does to his ho's just not as harsh or phisical. need to make them think all your ideas are there ideas and never show your jealous or weak. they have to respect you in order to follow you.

but this is something easier explained in person or over the phone.
it really depends on the girl and how you break them down, my girl was a total materialistic girl and now She doesnt care as much but it takes time because girls want it all. they are princess and you need to treat them like one.
I always remind my girl if shes not happy with waht I have now she can walk becasue there is another waiting to take her place

That's too funny, you think you have it all figured out! It may be different with you becuause you have money and there are enough girls out there that will fall in love with you for your money. In the real world most the bad boys thought they were cool and then the real world caught up with them. They were the guys who hardly made it through high school and never went to college. They make $12-$15 an hour, still go out and drink with the guys 5 nights a week and will never have anything solid. It wasn't that they found hotter girls it's the fact that the girls were smart enough to leave them. I am not sure what kind of girls you hang out with but they don't sound too smart. I guess I am confused when you were asking if nice guys finish last were you not talking about finding that right person and staying with them? I guess I didn't know you were talking about 1 night stands. One day you will want to find the right girl be careful you might miss here with that attitude Melissa

All depends on what yoru looking for and what your IDEAL is in life. I have found like attracts like. Im a nice guy and I won :) But winning means different things to different people :) To me winning was finding someone I could spend my life with and grow old together with. To others it might be counting off notches in ones belt, or whatever. In the end if your happy and content you win, If your not Happy and content try something totally different, compleate opposite of what you are currently trying. Thats what I did and I am happy and content with my family :)

Looks and libido fade with time. You need someone who cares, can hold an intelligent conversation and makes you laugh. If you do the same for her, it will work.

She will always be my skinny, little, hippy chick.

If by being a nice guy you mean opening doors, saying thanks, and what not...then I guess I'm a "nice guy". At one point it did seem like I was being taken advantage of and I considered being a dick, but I never did.

I still do nice things for girls, and they appreciate it. Take a stand when you have to, but there's no point in constantly trying to prove your thoughts & opinions are more important than hers. I personally don't believe nice guys finish last. Sadly, it's more common that ugly guys finish last.

Be courteous yet intelligent, assertive but not overbearing, and lastly...confident.
Better yet, be yourself.

Agree? Disagree?

My 2 cents,
c-lo

nice guys may finish last, but they are meant to last.

Being a nice guy with a bad boy look, who doesn't take any shit seems to work.

looks can sometimes be decieving.

i too sexy for myself let alone anyone else trying to share my sexiness!

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