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Redrob 12-24-2005 05:36 PM

Polk County Sheriff Claims Jurisdiction Over All Adult Websites
 
This is the guy who has Chris Wilson in his jailhouse this Christmas.

According to the Ledger, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said,

"Isn't it strange when people are charged with violating the obscenity law, they run and hide behind the First Amendment?" he said. "While they're running and hiding, they grab liberal attorneys, who make their money from the news coverage. People who don't violate the obscenity laws don't need the ACLU, a California attorney, attorneys for the pornography industry, and all other out of county attorneys, to defend them."

In response to the ACLU brief, Judd said, "I believe the obscenity investigation speaks for itself."

There are several people who live outside of Polk County who assist Wilson in running the Web site. When asked if they also might be charged with obscenity, Judd would only say, "The investigation is ongoing."

Polk County would have jurisdiction over anyone involved in running the Web site, even if they don't live in Polk County, as long as Polk County residents are able to view that Web site, Judd said.

"If obscene content is accessible in Polk County or Florida on the Internet, it's in violation of the law," Judd said.For the entire article, click here.

devilspost 12-24-2005 05:38 PM

He will get owned in the end.

candyflip 12-24-2005 05:41 PM

This guy sounds a bit out there.

I bet he's got some freaky old porn hidden in his basement on beta cassettes.

adultchica 12-24-2005 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip
This guy sounds a bit out there.

I bet he's got some freaky old porn hidden in his basement on beta cassettes.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
I must agree with you on this one.

KRL 12-24-2005 05:44 PM

Right wingers are a dangerous bunch to our core freedoms in this country.

dig420 12-24-2005 05:45 PM

I'm sure theking and our other resident right wing nutcases support him wholeheartedly.

pr0 12-24-2005 05:50 PM

God forbid someone show real life on a website, sex & death.

Fuck, the entire bible on which they base their morals & principals is about sex & death.

SmokeyTheBear 12-24-2005 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob
"If obscene content is accessible in Polk County or Florida on the Internet, it's in violation of the law," Judd said.For the entire article, click here.


not sure if he is out of context or the reporter is , but he is completely right..

Its illegal for people to VIEW obscene content in polk county. If the distribution takes place in polk county then the distributor is also liable , BUT in most cases the distribution does not take place in polk county only the viewing , and that part is illegal.. so they can only charge the viewer not the website owner.. ( unless he is distributing in polk county )

I think what he was trying to say is that , other employees , even though they dont live in polk county could be liable if they helped distibute it from polk county to polk county.

He doesn't mean he can charge the owners of a website in afghanistan for porn that a polk county resident viewed.

European Lee 12-24-2005 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
not sure if he is out of context or the reporter is , but he is completely right..

Its illegal for people to VIEW obscene content in polk county. If the distribution takes place in polk county then the distributor is also liable , BUT in most cases the distribution does not take place in polk county only the viewing , and that part is illegal.. so they can only charge the viewer not the website owner.. ( unless he is distributing in polk county )

I think what he was trying to say is that , other employees , even though they dont live in polk county could be liable if they helped distibute it from polk county to polk county.

He doesn't mean he can charge the owners of a website in afghanistan for porn that a polk county resident viewed.

Yup, a lot of countries around the globe have similar laws, this is nothing new to those of us who have actually researched the legal side of running a porn business.

Germany for example has some very strange (by U.S standards) laws concerning adult websites.

Why individuals who run an adult business dont do their homework when it comes to issues such as this is simply astounding if you are running a business in the 'porn' industry, you still need to ensure that you are running a solid business.

This case is tantermount to educating adult webmasters that they just cant upload a porn site and think its 'fun' it isnt, something as simple as a law enforcement officer hitting your site could potentially mean you end up in jail.

Regards,

Lee

escorpio 12-24-2005 06:18 PM

Grady Judd :1orglaugh
awesome redneck name for a southern sheriff

Harmon 12-24-2005 06:18 PM

LOL at this thread. Polk County is a joke. I like how this person continues to make threads about this.

theking 12-24-2005 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
I'm sure theking and our other resident right wing nutcases support him wholeheartedly.

Danny boy you really do need to lay off of the drugs...though it may be to late...to improve your memory.

I am not a right winger...by any strech of the imagination...but you are an extreme ultra left winger...so I can see how...in your drug clouded stupor...that you would think...that everyone including a liberal would be a right winger from your view point.

Corona 12-24-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
He doesn't mean he can charge the owners of a website in afghanistan for porn that a polk county resident viewed.

During the Regan years the Postal Service had its investigators place orders for porn VHS tapes from California. I don't remember what state they were delivered to but the Post Office routed the mail through very a conservitive county in Ohio. The government then charged the distributor in Ohio court even thought the tapes only passed through Ohio and were not viewed there.

I don't recall the ultimate disposition of this case but I think the sheriff could and would be very happy to charge others in this case and then let them fight it out in court for 10 years.

Mr Pheer 12-24-2005 06:57 PM

Anybody got the email addy for that idiot sheriff?

Nothing illegal about emailing someone and telling them what an idiot you think they are.

PrintAdult 12-24-2005 06:59 PM

I do not want to live anywhere near there. Fuck that. ( note , move all servers offshores)

dig420 12-24-2005 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking
Danny boy you really do need to lay off of the drugs...though it may be to late...to improve your memory.

I am not a right winger...by any strech of the imagination...but you are an extreme ultra left winger...so I can see how...in your drug clouded stupor...that you would think...that everyone including a liberal would be a right winger from your view point.

if I'm the one in a stupor why are you the one who can't communicate in complete sentences?

That's pretty sad. Me stoned is smarter than you sober. Except you're probably drunk. I bet you love this sheriff don't you?

Shoehorn! 12-24-2005 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
God forbid someone show real life on a website, sex & death.

Fuck, the entire bible on which they base their morals & principals is about sex & death.

:thumbsup

EdgeXXX 12-24-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
Anybody got the email addy for that idiot sheriff?

Nothing illegal about emailing someone and telling them what an idiot you think they are.


gjudd (at) polksheriff.org :winkwink:

escorpio 12-24-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob
"Isn't it strange when people are charged with violating the obscenity law, they run and hide behind the First Amendment?" he said.

Isn't it strange that redneck sheriffs speak of the First Amendment as if it were some kind of legal loophole that needs to be abolished?

SilentKnight 12-24-2005 07:31 PM

AnalRetardsOfPolkCounty.com is up for grabs.

SmokeyTheBear 12-24-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corona
During the Regan years the Postal Service had its investigators place orders for porn VHS tapes from California. I don't remember what state they were delivered to but the Post Office routed the mail through very a conservitive county in Ohio. The government then charged the distributor in Ohio court even thought the tapes only passed through Ohio and were not viewed there.

I don't recall the ultimate disposition of this case but I think the sheriff could and would be very happy to charge others in this case and then let them fight it out in court for 10 years.

what crime would they have charged them with that took place in ohio ? i have never heard of any state trying someone for something that never took place in their state.. the prosecuter has to actually name a crime.. the state laws aren't valid in other states..

RawAlex 12-24-2005 07:35 PM

While I don't agree with the Polk County mounty on this one, I will have to say this:

There is nothing in the books, law or judgement, that says he is wrong. Nobody has tested to find out if we are subject to the community standards of the RECEVIER or of the SENDER, or if the internet as a whole has it's own community to judge from.

If you send an obscene video tape into polk county, they could charge you and I suspect they could make it stick. I think their logic is "the delivery method isn't important, just the product". Until someone proves them wrong, they are free to go about and lay charges based on their view of the law as it reads to date.

It isn't going to fly, but they sure could use it to fuck some people up in the mean time.

... and no, Redrob, I will not donate money.

Alex

EdgeXXX 12-24-2005 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
what crime would they have charged them with that took place in ohio ? i have never heard of any state trying someone for something that never took place in their state.. the prosecuter has to actually name a crime.. the state laws aren't valid in other states..

If it goes through the USPS it turns into a Federal crime

DaddyHalbucks 12-24-2005 07:39 PM

Hey Grady Judd,

Go fuck yourself!

:)

Doctor Dre 12-24-2005 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
While I don't agree with the Polk County mounty on this one, I will have to say this:

There is nothing in the books, law or judgement, that says he is wrong. Nobody has tested to find out if we are subject to the community standards of the RECEVIER or of the SENDER, or if the internet as a whole has it's own community to judge from.

If you send an obscene video tape into polk county, they could charge you and I suspect they could make it stick. I think their logic is "the delivery method isn't important, just the product". Until someone proves them wrong, they are free to go about and lay charges based on their view of the law as it reads to date.

It isn't going to fly, but they sure could use it to fuck some people up in the mean time.

... and no, Redrob, I will not donate money.

Alex

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight ... that coule make sense to try to sxensor the shit out of the net, but that wouldn't be very doable.

kane 12-24-2005 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
what crime would they have charged them with that took place in ohio ? i have never heard of any state trying someone for something that never took place in their state.. the prosecuter has to actually name a crime.. the state laws aren't valid in other states..

this just happend with the case against extreme associates. The ordered movies and had them shipped to a conservative pittsburg so that they can charge them in that area.

The supreme court ruled in the COPA case that local community standard can be used in internet cases so if you run a site from your office in Los Angeles you can be charged in Ohio. So far they haven't done that, but there is bound to be a test case one of these days.

SilentKnight 12-24-2005 07:59 PM

http://www.georgeblowfish.com/bfife.gif

Probono 12-24-2005 10:57 PM

They can do what ever they want. They can issue a warrant for your arrest and they can extradite you from any State. You might win, you might go broken paying the legal fees. These folks are for real we have had experience with them and will not accept content nor sell memberships in that county.

tony286 12-24-2005 11:01 PM

it also happened a couple ran a site in CA and got put in jail in TN.This was in the early days of the net. Another thing someone else posted offshore servers dont do shit if the money comes back in the the us. You have to move whereever the servers are. Polk county is a fucked up place and I hope this teaches others you just cant do a adult site where ever the fuck you want. You have to be aware where you live. I dont think he is going after anyone out of polk county ,their thing is they dont want people running adult sites or porn businesses in polk county.

SmokeyTheBear 12-24-2005 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
If it goes through the USPS it turns into a Federal crime

exactly , not a state crime..

pocketkangaroo 12-24-2005 11:52 PM

Damn, we are like China now.

Mr Pheer 12-25-2005 01:07 AM

http://www.polksheriff.org/SheriffJudd-sm.jpg

Well there he is, Grady Judd

someone get busy photoshopping his ass and lets post him all over the interweb

kmanrox 12-25-2005 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
http://www.polksheriff.org/SheriffJudd-sm.jpg

Well there he is, Grady Judd

someone get busy photoshopping his ass and lets post him all over the interweb


oh YEAH,, someone PLEASE photoshop this...

Grady, if you're watching.... FUCK you, and your wife is a 2 dolla BlacksonBlondes actress!!

COME AND GET ME BITCH

Mr Pheer 12-25-2005 01:14 AM

http://www.polksheriff.org/briefings...Material.pd f

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd says, "In my 33 years of law enforcement experience, this is one of the most horrific examples of filthy, obscene materials we have ever seized"

I think Sheriff Grady doesnt surf the internet very much :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

weekly 12-25-2005 01:16 AM

Where the fuck is polk county and who cares?

nofx 12-25-2005 01:30 AM

the sheriff is an uneducated backwoods prick, do you expect him to actually know anything? hes a cop for fucks sake.

darnit 12-25-2005 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer

I'd bet good money the skeletons in that mans closet could raise an army of the dead.

asshat. :321GFY

eroswebmaster 12-25-2005 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
what crime would they have charged them with that took place in ohio ? i have never heard of any state trying someone for something that never took place in their state.. the prosecuter has to actually name a crime.. the state laws aren't valid in other states..

There was the couple that was brought to Tenessee from I think California back in the BBS days.

eroswebmaster 12-25-2005 02:04 AM

Here's a link with some information about that couple and a few other cases.

LINK

poe 12-25-2005 02:13 AM

PolkCountyPorn.com - Congratulations, domain is available!

heywood 12-25-2005 02:33 AM

I thought about registering polkcountyporn.com when I first read that quote. I even thought about mimicing the look of the polk county sheriff's dept. But, because of my ties with the case, I don't think it would Chris any.

It sure would be funny though.

bjjb 12-25-2005 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip
This guy sounds a bit out there.

I bet he's got some freaky old porn hidden in his basement on beta cassettes.

More likely hes got it all on 16 and 8 MM film. Sounds like some old fart throwback to the 50's and 60's

The Ghost 12-25-2005 04:12 AM

I second the asshat comment.

DWB 12-25-2005 04:23 AM

Polk County: Go fuck yourself and have a merry christmas.

Red Ezra 12-25-2005 05:06 AM

this makes me want to move my bowels

HairToStay 12-25-2005 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrintAdult
I do not want to live anywhere near there. Fuck that. ( note , move all servers offshores)

What good will that do? Chris Wilson hosted in the Netherlands and still got busted.

Redrob 12-25-2005 09:10 AM

To Chris and everybody associated with NowThatsFuckedUP.com,

Merry Christmas and Best Wishes for the New Year.

Don't despair as you are in our thoughts this holiday.

I hope your situation improves and justice prevails.

Yours,
Redrob

Drake 12-25-2005 09:13 AM

Wow he owns us :upsidedow

Mr.Fiction 12-25-2005 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob
"Isn't it strange when people are charged with violating the obscenity law, they run and hide behind the First Amendment?" he said.

Why does this person hate America?

If he hates the U.S. Constitution, why not move to Iraq or China? Is he a communist? :1orglaugh

escorpio 12-25-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
Why does this person hate America?

If he hates the U.S. Constitution, why not move to Iraq or China? Is he a communist? :1orglaugh

I agree 100%. Nothing pisses me off more than hearing a government official speaking that way about the First Amendment. Freedom of speech is the cornerstone of democracy and people have died defending it. This asshole speaks of it as if it were a loophole. He should be brought up on treason charges.


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