The Empire *W I L L* FALL!
 

I may not be the first to have said it, but I am saying here and now.

MICROSOFT IS GOING DOWN -- bye-bye -- :)



2hp

I don't know about that, to be honest. They'll get more competition, yes, and they'll lose the monopoly, but I don't see them really falling any time soon.

Thank you for coming into my thread -- :)

"Soon" is relative -- it's an example of the diagnosis hastening the end -- for who will invest long-term in death?


2hp

They have 40 fucking billion dollars in CASH! They're not going anywhere.

(In other words, they could lose $10 million a day for 11 years and still be in business)

whar prompted this? they have more money then god

That and most computer users are simply not too tech savvy to use anything else. It'll take decades before MS goes down; cuz', well, it took decades for more and more VCR clocks to stop blinking "12:00".

i thought that this was going to be another anti-yankees thread...

go yanks

Microsoft isn't going down, that's just ignorance talking right there...

lol.



2hp

i got in a fight with bill gates, and i was like... yo... wire me 3 billion or i'll make a drama thread on gfy, and noone on there will buy windows again..

and he gave in.. cause he knew if i started a drama thread on gfy it would cost his business more then 3 billion in future business :2 cents:

They can lose money a lot faster than that, under the right conditions. A failed product line combined with new, strong competition, for example, could do billions upon billions of damage. And new competition is a distinct possibility. For example, Google is planning to hire people to aid the free and open source OpenOffice, which could be killer competition for MS Office. Worse, if MS Vista fails to meet expectations, Google may be tempted to start thinking about its own operating system.

Aside from that, the XBox and MS Media Center Edition and its successors may well lose the fight for dominance as the all-in-one home entertainment center. That would be a huge blow to them, and could even destroy their future markets. And it isn't an unlikely thought, either, if you look at how MS has failed with almost everything other than its OS and Office.

The real reason I think MS will last for quite a while is that their margins right now are still insanely huge, giving them an almost infinite war chest to conquer new markets, while at the same time they are acquiring new patents by the thousands, giving them such a capital of intellectual property that exploiting that could turn out to be a solid business in itself.

Microsoft isn't going anywhere for a very long time.

I think your all wrong.

Everyone is quick to bash M$, but our industry exists because of their products and software. Without M$ where would we be? And without M$, what would have we have used? Would it have been better or worse?

Then factor in that Windows is the defacto standard. Imagine the billions in re-training if Microsoft was suddenly replaced.

Not sure about everyone else but I've been running Windows XP on this box for the past two years without any problems.

You're totally missing the point. Ford was one of the first companies to popularize automobiles, and definitely the first to make them available to the masses. Nevertheless, standards changed, and while at one point half the cars in America were T-Fords, now the situation is entirely different, and their bonds have been downgraded to junk status.

Thinking MS will fall is not the same as hating on MS :2 cents:

OUT fucking STANDING!!

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2hp

I read the article in Forbes.
Steve Ballmer is holding shit together as best he can, however they're relying on profits from their oldest products. Their last 20 or so products have all failed and they have had their worst 3 years.

I find it interesting that a free company such as Google that basically gives everything but advertisements away for free is threatening a 100 + billion dollar company.
You figure in 5 years at the rate google is going, and with 3 -10 more companies tagging along and following their model that Microsoft can stay on top?

I don't. However I am optimistic and I give them a little more credit than that. I beleive they'll restructure and wait to pounce again, if that fails they'll either resort to law suits and tie things up in court, or they'll just copy the competition.

and that's why this man is STILL in the business -- :thumbsup



2hp

Thanks Bud, I'd love to read your views.

I dont think microsoft will ever fall. They may lose big market in the next few years tough.

You are smoking something pretty strong dude.

It all depends on Google at this point. That AOL deal was interesting.

google will be the next giant.

All empires fall, eventually.

This thread's kind of funny. Seems many of you forget that most of you are tech savvy and know what a "Google" is. Most of you make up the minority of actual computer users.

I have no numbers, but I'm willing to guesstimate that the "majority" of internet users, let alone straight computer users, have no idea what they are doing on their computers, save for trying their best to get an MS word document, which came pre-installed on their computer because they knew no other, to print.

I have no disagreement that MS won't be huge one day, but that one day is far, far away.

Indeed. And why is that?

"How to Live Forever

As strategies go, it should take you about 15 seconds of consideration to reject Conquest. It cannot be sustained. The internal systems and principles Conquest requires breed an assortment of undesirable manifestations. It has no plan for what to do when ?All the eye surveys is yours!? Though we may admire Rome, et al, Conquest has never once succeeded in the past. The Empire is, alas, where all the roads have led.

Oh, what to do?

2hp

Watch FIREFOX do MIND-BLOWING THINGS first half of this year -- marketingwise, esposing an organization no one has dreamed -- consider who their allies are -- consider the new methods of software distribuition that are quietly displacing the old -- It won't be long at all. Assets don't count when you can't buy traffic from anybody but outlaws because your trust rank is zero. People are going to "vote" for things with their links -- to make money, to express, to enjoy unprecedented scope of reach and effect, and to participate. I am writing about trust rank in another thread, fyi -- it's all connected.


2hp

I checked out that link, wow... great read... I'm not even close to being through with it, but it's fantastic.
Keep it up, and let's talk more soon.

I can't see it happening.. well not anytime soon...

After Rome fell the World was plunged in to the Dark Ages. Careful what you wish for.

Lensman
 

It would mean the world to have you post in one of my threads -- anything -- :)

My relationship with Lensman is not unlike my relationship with the Spider -- dominated by awe and a desire to have it like me -- :)



2hp

Microsoft definitely isn't "going down" anytime soon. They may lose the search engine race, browser dominance, and everything else but one thing alone will make sure they stay on top in the industry and one thing alone...Windows and the ability to make simple products that every single person in the world gets talked into purchasing. I, probably more than anyone else, would absolutely love to see Microsoft crumble, but it isn't gonna' happen.

Windows and the ability to make simple products that every single person in the world gets talked into purchasing


:winkwink:


Do I even have to?


How long do you think before the OpenSource killer OS is released? You can't imagine it's all riding on the browser.

The browser's job was to come and show everyone how much better a certain way of thinking is -- versus an old one -- and to,at once (and this will go down in the marketing books for aeons (and fluxes -- lol) -- to at once embrace users with superior more reliable, more stable, more PC (bookmark historic pun, pls.) functionality and just basic "in your life everdayness" AND embrace a global community of programmers who write code passionately for free and share EVERYBODYS's work in a framewerk that percolates features into the finished product ONLY because they have been vetted by tens of thousands of users/developers -- c'mon. It sounds like the Viet Cong, bro -- MS don't have a fat fly's chance in fishtank -- :1orglaugh



2hp

lol...seriously for that Windows Applications would HAVE to run on such OS and that will not happen..

btw lets not forget about the pretty thing called DirectX :2 cents:

Pigshit............ :2 cents:

haha :) funny, Microsoft will not going down

Doesnt take years to learn how to drive a new car. :thumbsup Steering wheel, brake, gas. Thats about it.

it would take years for them to fall, google and microsoft will compete heavily for the next few years.

intersting posts on both sides. i could spend hours and hours on this subject, but i would have to say that the most interesting thing to see will be how well google does with the new ebay clone. if google is able to take away a big share from a company like ebay that has dominated the online auction arena, i think any big established competitor should start to worry.

as far as the os side goes, i dont think a free os would lower a pc makers cost significantly in comparison to how low new pc prices are today. with that in mind i don't see a lot of pc manufactures gambling on a non ms os and risk losing customers with a new to market os.

intersting posts on both sides. i could spend hours and hours on this subject, but i would have to say that the most interesting thing to see will be how well google does with the new ebay clone. if google is able to take away a big share from a company like ebay that has dominated the online auction arena, i think any big established competitor should start to worry.

as far as the os side goes, i dont think a free os would lower a pc makers cost significantly in comparison to how low new pc prices are today. with that in mind i don't see a lot of pc manufactures gambling on a non ms os and risk losing customers with a new to market os.

Oh, boy -- IF i got you drunk, you are SO close!

Actually, our "industry" exists because of IBM, Intel, Xerox (they created graphics interfaces and the mouse) and to some extent Apple. Microsoft exists because it's founder "scammed" another company out of it's DOS software and sold it to IBM as their own. That relationship is what built MS. Microsoft has never done anything except buy technology/programs (sometimes thru "shady" business practices) from others and then market it far better than anyone else. They don't "innovate", they take what others have and use their marketing muscle (and licensing "threats") to outsell everyone. Also remember that "Windows" was what came out of the "broken" contract between MS and IBM to develop OS2. OS2 was far superior to Windows. Keep an eye on Apple. They're slowly doing and end run around MS.

Micro$oft wont be going anyware.

If anything they will lose a little cash.

they arnt going anywhere

it would be a healthy competition and surely the end user will benefit on it. :thumbsup

The most fascinating aspect of the question is that NONE of you imagine yourselves very much affected by the outcome. You are LAISSEZ-FAIRE, mais vous-etes dans un territoire ou les iimbeciles sont Peres de campagne -- excusez-moi -- :pimp

Yes, Microsoft has faced competition on various fronts, but it takes a smart competitor. Apple, for example, has owned the music market with the ipod and itunes, and sells far more players and songs than ones based on Windows technology. Until another competitor truly challenges them in the desktop OS market, though, I don't see them going the way of Ford or GM - because Microsoft still owns the road the other companies are all travelling on, which is the Windows OS.

Not in the near future...

Fall? Not in our lifetime.

Your new to computers huh? lol If microsoft didnt rise others would of, maybe apple would of licensed their os at that time or Xerox who actually invented the GUI technology and pc networking and the mouse, would of come forward.we would all be using apples. We would still be where we are but on a different type of system , you have to remember it was all a rip off of xerox anyway.