google selling out normal rankings
 

how do you feel about this ?

its common knowledge that nowadays you can just buy rankings on google, and I am not talking about the ads on the right ?

i feel that you should stop posting before you hurt yourself.

"Do no evil".

Is it evil to return a profit for shareholders?
Is it evil to post "news" without links?
Is it evil to scratch your ass in public?

I feel that if you have the money, and their willing, then why bitch? It's their service to do what they want with it.

I think you have no knowledge

your sig is appropriate.

yeah , but it is not really what the users want , the users looking for something dont want a result based on $$$ , they want/ need results based on relevance


I think in a way it is a bad move from google to do this thing however I am actively involved in it as we speak, but still it would be better for me if the rankings were only based on relevance and not on $$$

well if you think google does not sell the normal rankings , good for you ,

You have any evidence of that "common knowledge" or is that pulled straight out of the tin foil hat files?

Very good point. Well, i'm sure they know what they're doing over there. So we'll just have to see. :2 cents:

You mean the sponsored links at the top or what ?

no , talking about the normal rankings , not the sponsored links on top in bleu , or the ads on the right ,

Really ? If that's true, google just took a big hit in what I thought about them.

I say post some form of proof or I call bullshit

you're right, you should start your own search engine with no ads at all and blow google away, after all you do know more than them about running a search engine.

Yahoo is doing it now.

hmm, are you thick ? I am not talking about normal advertising but about letting users think a site is ranked based on relevancy while in fact in reality its ranked based on $$$

with the ads on the right and on top the users knows they are just that ads , but if you allow ranks in the normal listings to be obtained trough $$$ you are deceiving the user base that made you big !

google is going out of business

This coming from a guy who has simply started a thread with absolutely no evidence to back his claim up.

How do you know they are doing this? Who do we call to buy some?

Wouldn't surprise me if they did... But google gained it's popularity by having more relevant results than others... If they dilute that then it opens the door for the next "google"...

back your claim up dude, seriously

I read and watch everything dealing with search engines, and I have not read or seen anything that would show me that rankings can be bought easily

Give one example.

hmm, so I take it none of you are in the know

Still no proof.

http://www.analthai.com/pics/BULLSHIT-O-METER.gif

Defined "common knowledge" please

Sure a lot of people have suspicions but they mostly fall into the category of "Well they SHOULD sell rankings if they don't!" or the conspiracy theorists. Where are you getting your intel?

Hi mike


like I said before I am not posting this here to proof something as I have nothing to proof, this thread is directed to the people that know what I am talking about and how they feel about it

you on the other hand clearly have no idea what I am talking about and thus you can not add any value to this thread

I think right now for you it would be best to just stay out of this thread and stop wasting your time aswell as mine

i think you sig says it all my man

you are giving the surfer to much credit, most surfers do not even pay that much attention to the sponsored links honestly, they do a search, get links put in front of them and they usually click the top one NOT based on relevance but on the same thing brick an mortar and real estate people care about LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.

The next step up is the person who briefly skims the description that pops up looking for the bold words which were the ones they typed in and their relevance in that sentance. How many surfers even know what google pr is or how search results are returned?

If your surfer is that enlightened they are going to skim search results no matter what so someone buying a site up to the top was really wasting money. If the site has little or no relevance to what they are looking for, then they will hit the back button or close the window and go to the next ranked or the most relevent by contextm once again they are going to go elsewhere, money wasted. Most sites out there do not even care about pr, they are information sites, the ones that sell a product usually PAY someone to design their sites in a way to get high pr which is usually by making the site as relevant to it as possible to the search words. There are the tricksters also but who has shown a hands down, unequivicle link between google tricks without providing good relevance to get high ranks and then profits over someone who designs a site with relevance to the search with good content that would also score well and also have viral advertising as well as what the surfer wanted?

Really aren't people used to advertising where the ones with the most money pay to have their products in their face all the time? My :2 cents:? If it is true, it looks like people are going to have to worry about the actual quality of their sites so they can get viral advertising to compete and not on google tricks to take advantage of listings since someone with a deep wallet can own real estate. Surfers will start to pay attention to how crappy the top ranks are and go to the next google or be more careful on the links they click. Honestly the real world works with that system, I think the net can also.

So you expect to just waltz in here, post a claim that the largest search engine in the world today is crooked. That's a pretty serious accusation.

Many webmasters in this place do know what they are talking about when it comes to google. They know about it a lot more than both of us do. When you are not backing your claim up by posting some link to an article or other reliable source, you are doing nothing else but hurt your credibility.

Honestly most of the time I click on the sponsored links because they are more targetted then the search results.

Yo commander, see sig and join.

yeah... playboy is buying them!

more bs from a troll...

BS man, BS

mate, wtf is the matter with you not backing this up with proof?!
yes, it would be disturbing because other than getting great traffic to my sites, google is my knowledge base, an universal tutor.
please bare in mind that if you have an anal fisting tgp and you buy a top ranking for the keyword "free anal fisting porn" than you are not doing anything wrong unless you take into account the capitalism of the matter.
no one has mentioned this in the seo world so even if it DOES makes sense that they sell their normal rankings (when did google become so needing of cash) we want to see something to back this up!

this idiot has no idea what he's talking about, those rankings are not for sale.

i don't know if you're kidding me or not after this thread