Tookie Williams deserves death.
 

His last appeal was just rejected as of 3:08 eastern time zone.

I am a minority, left wing, liberal, democratic blue stater and i can see past this guys bullshit. Who gives a fuck how many kids books he wrote? He's responsible for starting arguably the most dangerous street gang ever.

If someone kills one person an argument can be made for redemption and a pass on the death penalty. When someone is responsible for taking 5 lives, then there is no fucking excuse. He is a perfect candidate.

I hope his veins explode.

Am I the only anti death penalty person on here?

no, i am with you.

i do not beleive it is within the powers of the state to execute people.

An eye for an eye.

I can go either way. Like I said...if anyone deserves it....it is him.

while doing my prelaw program i studied capital punishment and its inherent flaws. that is my only argument against the death penalty. in this case it works perfectly...no flaws.

contrary to popular belief there is no right to life.

OK. so give his ass over to the family members of the dead.

I got my shotgun ready in case its a repeat of rodney king riots.

bring it up niggggasssssss

all the protesting and shit is pointless. he's going down regardless...

about 5 different family's would like to get their hands on him.

usually i am a man who believes that it is better to let them rot in jail...than to take their lives.

but in this case..it's different. this man "tookie" wants to live...he has a desire to live...the death penalty would fit better.

California prisons are filled with Crips who cherish and praise this guy. He lives like a King.

i support the death penelty

He should die`

Let the dude live.
If my taxes paying for him to eat and live he should work his fucking ass off and help change the world for the better.
Also, if he isn't granted clemency by our "Alneld" today, I'm sure the riots will break out causing a total shitstorm.

classic hollywood trash :1orglaugh

kidding.

You're quick on the draw... I thought you were Canadian?

Let them burn down there own city again. There not going to get away with anything in my area.

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1) When he started the crips it was a poolhall club that did some small gambling
2) He is not asking to be set free .. just not to be killed
3) He is in jail for a murder that was he convicted of based on circumstantial evidence and no real proof was ever found .... it was back in the day where racism ran wild and it was a 100% white jury .. the two black people who got dismissed where not given a real reason


He deserves to have his case re looked at by a group of HIS PEERS

You forgot the ending... "leaves the whole world blind"

Killing people is wrong..

Tookie does deserve to die.. but we aren't the ones that should be making that judgement.

One thing is for sure, the justice system is whacked... They are way to nice to convicted killers and way to harsh on minor offenses..

Im not sure what that has to do with anything ? he isnt being killed for being a crip , he is being killed for killing people

he shouldnt be allowed to ask for anything..
if he has a legal reason to ask for a re-trial , then it should be given , but he tried that and the legal system denied it..

I saw him admit in his own words that he shot people with the intent to kill..
he had that chance it was denied. Every criminal has that chance

If I had the choice between life in prison and death I'd choose death. Why would anyone want to live in prison?

The dude lives ok in there.

I'm sure you'd think differently if it was your mother, or g/f who got killed.

"Thou shalt not kill". Same book.

he deserves to die!

we live in a world today where gangsters are portrayed as somehow being heros.

you have tons of wannabes trying to follow this idiot. its called setting an example.

GOOD, something finally went right! KILL HIM

I don't think our criminal justice system is perfect. I think it could use a bit of overhauling but I do think the Death Penalty does have a purpose and place within it.

Thats because the only other option is to let him live and smoke and drink and write books and watch tv and hang out with his buddies.

If there was another option , perhaps people might take it..

Like if they allowed victims to choose a torture for the convict, and decide what he should do ( hard labour, chain gang , isolation etc )

The book is ambiguous. It must have been written by a marketing guru. It says a lot and means nothing.

I will go with the 'eye for an eye'.

Lyn

:thumbsup

I personally am on the fence when it comes to the death penelty but if he has admitted to shoot to kill.. then the death penelty should be inforced. If it is his words that convict him and the evendence is there!

We can't kill him,,,,,,,,,,he wrote a book for kids! :1orglaugh

That was kinda my point :thumbsup

I don't believe in the death penalty though.

Fuck that I don't want to pay for this idiots meals. This guy killed innocent people. There is even still talk that he is running the crips from within prison. This dude just got better at bullshitting , thats all. This guy deserves to die. I hate to say it, but if this was a white guy that started the "crackers", the deadliest gang in the country, there would be no appeals, he would have been dead already and no one would give a shit.

That's part of the problem, from what I understand this guy has NEVER admitted to killing anyone. This is one of the reasons the family members are so upset about all this "spare his life" shit. He cannot even take responsibility for what he was convicted of doing. Work it out with your maker.

don't be an idiot

bullshit

ANY link, please, that says that...

Maybe to do what he is doing, waking a few youngsters up before it is too late.

Like I said in the other thread about this guy. If he REALLY cared, he would make a public statement, admitting he was wrong and that he was going to take his punishment. At the same time, he could then really be a role model for young kids and give the message that crime doesn't pay and that people should celebrate his life or something along those lines.

All this guy is doing, is making matters worse with all the appeals, celebrities on television etc. He is creating the chaos, instead of calming it.

not sure if I support death as a punishment. Give him lifetime jail

Ignorant.

inform yourself instead of making an ass out of yourself ( lousy " branding " ).

Facts about the case

Boston...Massachusetts. Kinda like LA just colder and realer. :1orglaugh

we have hotter brunettes and you guys have hotter blondes.

no sorry it was an interview years ago , and it wasnt in regards to the murders he was convicted of.. it was just in regards to his gang activites in general..

I dont remember the exact words but heres the gist of it..

The reporter asked him about his activities with the crips , and particularly if he ever shot anyone.

And he replied that he had participated in drive-by's , beaten and robbed people before etc..

The part i watched they never spoke about the murders he was convicted of..

If one individual decides someone ought to die, they are a murderer, but if 20 individual people decide someone ought to die, there's nothing wrong with it?

Human beings are simply ridiculous. What are we doing with our intelligence?

This thread clearly shows how sick 70% of the American people are. Democracy? Humanity? Haha - you don't even know anymore what that is. But you believe you are good Christians because you go to church once a week. Poor!

Good Christian? I don't attend church, I don't practice religion, I am a pornographer, and I still think this guy should die!

Now some lyrics to the song I am currently listening to.

D.R.I. - Give a Hoot
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I give a hoot
But I still pollute
I don't know what's the matter with me
I won't kill
But I think I'd shoot
If it meant whether or not I'd be free

Simulated sympathy
In a world full of pain
It's each for his own
If there's something to gain

I've got my own problems
It's hard to care
There's just more death
Then I can bear

So I fly my flag at half mast
Big, black clouds hanging over me
My days are always overcast
Burnt out buildings return my stare

But I must hang on
Though the sea is dead
I must hold on
Someone said

I must go on
Though young men die
I must push on
But I can't rember why

Tookies website stipulates a Filipino and Latino served on the jury

I have him on ignore. I presume he doubts the accuracy of my comments?

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another fight with other inmates July 6, 1993, in which a stabbing instrument (shank) was recovered. The DA's report also says Williams threatened all of the jurors after they found him guilty.

"Specifically, the defendant looked at the jurors and said he 'was going to get all' of them," said the report. "After learning of this threat, the trial judge inquired of the jury foreperson. The foreperson confirmed the defendant mouthed the words 'I'm going to get each and every one of you m-----f------."
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Kill a man, and you are a murderer.

Kill many, and you are a conquerer.

Kill them all, and you're a god.