Originally Posted by bhutocracy

oh I'm all for the gang members getting some of their own back, but who says the one or two guys copping it so far had ANYTHING to do with it? they're obviously not in a big group with knives and bats could just be poor holiday makers. Thats the problem with mob rule.. the more people there are the stupider it gets.

It's also pathetic it gets turned in to a race thing rather than a gang thing. Gathering together and yelling "no more lebs" is about the most retarded thing i can think of.
If they wanted targetted violence they should have laid low for a week or two and got 30-40 guys to all lay on beach towels spread out like normal sunbathers and spring a trap to actually catch the ones responsible... wait for a gang of them to start picking on someone and then teach them a lesson as to how fun it is to be gang bashed and outnumbered.
Or better, catch these assholes doing this stuff on film and publish it to shame them, put their pictures up on telegraph poles etc in their home suburbs so their parents start doing their job.

Although it must be said that locals at any beach suck and might be almost as much to blame.. I've had a local moron try to spear me with his surfboard because I was only visiting and therefore "stealing" the dope smoking dole bludging loser's waves.

I think it's a good thing to see people stand up to bullies. But it's tainted with media hyperbole, talkback racism and copious amounts of alcohol at the moment. I would have preferred to see families and the full community "reclaim" the beach not drunken local yobbos. Still.. will be interesting to see the fall out.

Originally Posted by Sloane

Your joking right?? The parents are just as much the cause of the problem. The only reason this has become a race problem, is because that is exactly what they have made it. They hate Australians, and the Australian lifestyle. They hang around the beach harassing Australian girls because they are wearing bikinis..calling them sluts because they are not covering their bodies. They have no respect for Australian people..the way they talk and act infront of children makes my blood boil. I'm tired of hearing the bleeding hearts saying its just an isolated incident, or its just one bad apple..it isn't. For a minority group they are causing majority problems. We do not have these same problems with other ethnic groups. Seems like Australia is not the only country to be suffering from these clowns..Europe is having a whole load of problems with them too.

Originally Posted by Chief

Yeah, must be nice to live in Queensland. They aren't fucking gangs, what a joke. They are a bunch of young wogs, like 99% of young lebs that go to the beach they are there to stir shit. This whole gangs shit was an attempt by the media to try and make it look like a few individuals, and not the generally lack of respect 99% of these 'Middle-Eastern' individuals have for Australian men, women and children.

Young Lebanese men in Sydney quite simply have no respect for Australia or Australians. You may not realise it sitting in your house up there, but every Australian dealing with them down here does. The cultural differences are enormous, and like it or not it is a race thing, not because the media and the yobs turned it into it, but because Lebs see themselves as Lebs, and they don't identify with or respect Australians.

Originally Posted by Sloane

We do not have these same problems with other ethnic groups. Seems like Australia is not the only country to be suffering from these clowns..Europe is having a whole load of problems with them too.

Originally Posted by Chief

To be honest I am proud of them

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

I lived in sydney for 6 years. I know how the lebs are.. one of my mates lived in Dulwich Hill. Don't think you can brush me off just because im not currently in the shithole Western suburbs. I know exactly what it's like. Thats why one of the SMS's that went around was moronic "lebs and wogs" annd the other was a fair call "middle eastern gangs". As you yourself say it's YOUNG leb fuckups.. not their parents or other members of the community. The immigrant and second generation are stand up people, it's only some of their kids that are fucked up.

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

Well as one of the resident Stormfront jewhaters I'm sure you're quite proud of the mob that beat up the lone older middle eastern fellow and are assaulting police. But there are a lot of Australians that still have some level of dignity and self respect and don't quite hold these drunken fucks in as high regard.. The reports of the middle eastern girl being pushed over and kicked while she was down probably give you wood. I can assure you that most Australians without mullets don't agree at all with these hooligans are doing even though a lot of us share the basic sentiment.

Originally Posted by Chief

if you had any true idea you'd realise that 90% of young Lebs have absolutely no respect for Australia.

Originally Posted by Chief

You, like the idiotic politicians wouldn't have a clue what most Australians think.

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

whatever jewish 911 conspiracy theory guy, yeah, you're REALLY in tune with what people think lol.. Just because your stormfront pals and a few bogans you know agree with you doesn't mean shit.

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

You honestly think the majority of people are for the drunken violence that happened today? If so you are out of your mind. Yeah the beer bottles they threw at police must have been pre-filled with "rage" before every yahoo in the area with half a skinful in them on a sunday afternoon and an eye for some action in an otherwise bored life crashed the respectable community event lol.

Australians are fully against the lebanese gang behaviour and we all like the idea of them getting hit back but today's events were pathetic. It took any moral capital we had and pissed it away with drunken retards acting like monkeys and just as bad as the gangs in the first place. Only a complete fool would think today's actions were a good thing and not morons gone wild.

Turned a good show of community spirit or at least a moral strike back at the gangs into a beer fueled hoon fest. Throwing shit at police? I thought only black people and feral uni students did that? Way to piss away the moral high ground..

Originally Posted by Chief

Actually I never thought anyone agreed with my opinion about the Mossad having knowledge prior to 9/11. But ofcourse it is a totally ridiculous conspirarcy for an agency who has at it's slogan (according a former Mossad agent) 'Through deception thou shalt do war' to not tell a country about an attack that might gain them worldwide support. But anyway, I know of stormfront, but don't visit it, or know anyone from it (nor have I). I do however know hundreds of Australians from all walks of life, most of which are educated individuals who, yes, did originally come from the Western suburbs.



Let me make it clear to you as well, you seem like a reasonable guy, it is not that I or others support the indiscriminate attacks, but at the same time the few attacks that did occur are not enough to disregard the fact that 5-7 thousand Aussie men and women came out and said something for a change. When I said I was proud, that was what I was proud of, I honestly did not care for the few attacks that did occur (they are nothing in comparison to what has happened to cronulla over the past few years).

That said though, having high moral ground will only get you so far. For years we've 'had the moral high ground', can you please tell me what it achieved? After 17 days of burning cars in France the French have now vowed to help these people find jobs, etc. Is it something I support? No. But did it achieve something? I guess it did. To most Australians (at least judging from my position, and no that is not from some bogan trailer) it was an overall positive event, because it was something that most (like yourself) have been feeling for years. I doubt the government will listen now, but they sure as hell weren't listening when we had the moral high ground anyway. At least someone got out there and said something, even if it they werent Saints.

And I honestly do think most Australians feel the same way (and judging on comments from people I know from all walks of life, computer programmers, police officers, engineers, factory workers, etc) I believe that is a valid opinion. Perhaps in your suburb opinions are different, but in Sydney at least there is significant support for the event that happened today, regardless of the few mishaps.

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

I should add: Stupid enough to do it on camera. I think you are wrong when you say the attacks are not enough to disregard the fact 5-7000 aussies came together. The media will beat down and judge the mob as harshly as they inflamed it. It will be remembered as a "day of disgrace" not a day of unity or pride.