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  • [Labret]
    Registered User
    • May 2001
    • 10945
    #1

    This just passed along to me

    Sorry KK, dont hate me, it would get out eventually.

    I know some seriously bummin people. ahahaha




    Subject: IMPORTANT VISA NOTIFICATION! PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY
    Importance: High




    1501 W. 17th Street

    Tempe, Arizona 85281
    (480) 449-7750 Fax (480) 449-8814





    IMPORTANT ? Please read immediately!



    March 25, 2002



    Dear Webmaster:



    Attached is a copy of a letter we received from Visa stating that they will
    no longer accept Visa cards as payment for beastiality sites. Please note
    that their decision is effective immediately. Although we regret having to,
    CCBill must, as a result of Visa?s decision and other potential legal
    problems associated with processing billing for beastiality sites, cancel
    our agreement to provide service to you. We will continue to accept new
    member sign-ups until 2:00 PM Mountain time on Thursday, March 28, 2002.



    Even though your site will still be accessible to existing members until
    their subscriptions expire, because there is a potential for an unusually
    large amount of chargebacks and/or refunds, CCBill is holding all funds due
    you for a minimum of 6 months. Once we are satisfied that there is no
    further chargeback activity, we will send you the remaining balance.



    While we have tried to find another way for you to continue processing, we
    have been unable to do so. I appreciate your business in the past, and again
    regret having to take this action. Please contact Frank Cadwell at (480)
    449-7760 between the hours of 11:00 AM and 4:00 PM Mountain time if you have
    any questions.





    Very truly yours,

    Ron

    Ron Cadwell
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    • vegasdude
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2001
      • 3649
      #2
      bump
      Did you fucking talk to me??!
      Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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        • boneprone
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2001
          • 34415
          #3
          Nothing wrong with giving rights back to the animals.
          The animal Union has power, these billing companies better recognize.

          Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
          Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
          http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
          Learn about it kids.

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            • [Labret]
              Registered User
              • May 2001
              • 10945
              #4
              I am the top of the food chain.

              Animals have the right to be eaten and fucked. Or fucked then eaten... either way.

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                • vegasdude
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 3649
                  #5
                  either way.......
                  we are fucked
                  Did you fucking talk to me??!
                  Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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                    • [Labret]
                      Registered User
                      • May 2001
                      • 10945
                      #6

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                        • [Labret]
                          Registered User
                          • May 2001
                          • 10945
                          #7
                          They dont want it associated with the Visa brand name.

                          They are NOT going to stop at beast.

                          Crazy shit. Bend over and get ready for the ass reaming.

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                            • NetRodent
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 3985
                              #8
                              Ok, if Visa won't let you process for a site that shows women with animals, will they still let you process for a site that shows naked women with big thick juicy steaks?

                              Or will we have to change all of our Beef-n-Babes sites over to
                              SoyBean-Sluts?
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                                • ElvisManson
                                  Looking California
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 5476
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by [Labret]
                                  They dont want it associated with the Visa brand name.

                                  They are NOT going to stop at beast.

                                  Crazy shit. Bend over and get ready for the ass reaming.
                                  FUCK

                                  The sky did fall.

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                                    • boneprone
                                      Hall Of Fame
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 34415
                                      #10
                                      bow wow wow to the power.
                                      Power of the Hoed out Dog.

                                      The dog is tired of being fucked.

                                      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                      http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                      Learn about it kids.

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                                        • boneprone
                                          Hall Of Fame
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 34415
                                          #11
                                          what do they consider beast?
                                          SOme of these sites are borderline.

                                          I dont see how they catagorize one site beast and the other not

                                          Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                          Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                          http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                          Learn about it kids.

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                                            • Kimmykim
                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 16015
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by [Labret]
                                              Sorry KK, dont hate me, it would get out eventually.
                                              Like I don't already? ;)

                                              It's standard procedure when someone is terminated to hold funds for 180 days. If we were terminating an account for fraud or spam, etc. it would be the same thing.

                                              Since there will be no more billing past Thursday, the sites will effectively have their doors closed to all new joins and rebills. As the month goes along, fewer people will rebill each day until after 30 days, there will be no more active members left in our databases for their sites.

                                              Members do have access until the day they should have rebilled but that doesn't stop them from getting pissed that there is no more site and deciding to charge back a few months memberships.

                                              On a last note, we did indeed attempt to find someone out of the states willing to take the rebills and pay the site owners AND resellers per the CCBill setup. Unfortunately for our clients, it just didn't happen.

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                                                • Lev
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 3545
                                                  #13
                                                  Visa bans bestality. Does this mean slaugther house for all those cows and pigs

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                                                    • Amputate Your Head
                                                      There can be only one
                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 39075
                                                      #14
                                                      if a guy jerks off on a fur coat, is that considered "beast"?
                                                      SIG TOO BIG

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                                                        • sexxx
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                          • 101
                                                          #15
                                                          Kimmy Kim

                                                          Are ypu going to hold all money, inkluding all rebills and signups or just the reserves from the masteraccount holder??

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                                                            • Jakke PNG
                                                              ex-TeenGodFather
                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                              • 20306
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                              if a guy jerks off on a fur coat, is that considered "beast"?
                                                              NO! I'm not an animal-abuser. The minkcoat was already dead.
                                                              I think I have this animalnecrophilia.
                                                              ..and I'm off.

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                                                                • boneprone
                                                                  Hall Of Fame
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 34415
                                                                  #17
                                                                  what about hobbits?

                                                                  Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                  Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                  http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                  Learn about it kids.

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                                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 16015
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                      if a guy jerks off on a fur coat, is that considered "beast"?
                                                                      You jerk off on my fur coat, you won't have to worry about what you'll be called, other than dead ;)

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                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 16015
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Oh and I do find it humorous all the little people who read this board and quote it elsewhere on the web...

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                                                                            • Jamie
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 2517
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Although we regret having to,
                                                                              CCBill must, as a result of Visa?s decision and other potential legal
                                                                              problems associated with processing billing for beastiality sites, cancel
                                                                              our agreement to provide service to you.
                                                                              Does that mean CCBILL can't accept Visa at all?
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                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  No Jamie, it means we won't be processing transactions for any beastie, fake beastie, or even amateurs with a cat in their house during their cam show, after Thursday afternoon.

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                                                                                    • BuckNaked
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 399
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      was that last part a joke KK?


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                                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 16015
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Yes, it was Buck. Just wondered who was paying attention ;)

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                                                                                            • shunga
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                              • 994
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                              Oh and I do find it humorous all the little people who read this board and quote it elsewhere on the web...
                                                                                              You mean leprechauns? I wouldn't have thought you believed in that kind of thing.
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                                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  You call 'em leprechauns, I call 'em mental midgets... ;)

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                                                                                                    • [Labret]
                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                      • 10945
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I call them Serge.

                                                                                                      He likes to cutn paste to Oprano ALOT

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                                                                                                        • AWW - Kevin
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                          • 2353
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by [Labret]
                                                                                                          I call them Serge.

                                                                                                          He likes to cutn paste to Oprano ALOT

                                                                                                          then you know where this is going



                                                                                                          I call 'em mental midgets...
                                                                                                          LMHO KK


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                                                                                                            • Mr. Grimm
                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                                              • 65
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              quote:
                                                                                                              ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                              if a guy jerks off on a fur coat, is that considered "beast"?
                                                                                                              ------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                                                                                              You jerk off on my fur coat, you won't have to worry about what you'll be called, other than dead ;)



                                                                                                              --

                                                                                                              either that or "sweetie"
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                                                                                                                • SykkBoy2
                                                                                                                  Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                  • 19969
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  do some of these fucking butt ugly amateurs count as bestiality?

                                                                                                                  there are some that well...run rover run!!!!

                                                                                                                  what will these poor bestiality models do now that they are out of work? They should have unionized when they had the chance.....
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                                                                                                                    • crack
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                      • 100
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Kimmykim, not stepping on your toes. I understand ccbill want to complain with visa. FINE, just cut off visa processing from sites prohibited by them, keep other cc?s and checks. It was done with Amex awhile ago. Unless ccbill officially announces that it does not support transactions for certain content you can?t just shut down all processing.

                                                                                                                      I understand that no court will even look at complains from bestie webmaster, but I see lack of flexibility in your business thinking.

                                                                                                                      No morals involved, just business.
                                                                                                                      There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.

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                                                                                                                        • [Labret]
                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                          • 10945
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I bet iBill is going to do the same thing.

                                                                                                                          2 days before checks and wires are to be cut and sent, accounts will be froze and nobody gets jack.

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                                                                                                                            • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                              • 16015
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              crack,
                                                                                                                              I don't take it as stepping on my toes. We can and do reserve the right in our TOS to change things as needed, so there's no real issue of anyone having a case of anything in a court of law. We are aware that if our clients don't make sales we don't make money.

                                                                                                                              Grimmy you are bad ;)

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                                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  So are you Labret, now that I think about it ;)

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                                                                                                                                    • Donnie Gangsta
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 1104
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      The posted letter is from VISA Usa.. What about international processors? Has anyone inquired into this with Visa?

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                                                                                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 16015
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I answered this in your thread.

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                                                                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 22157
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              You know.. they really shouldn't be processing for beastiality, lil amber type sites, and cp sites anyway. Its illegal. People go to jail for it.

                                                                                                                                              I'm stunned VISA is the one that had to make this happen. Its even a little scary that no one would do anything about it, so now VISA feels it needed to. Who knows what VISA will decide for us next. WTG, Thanks.

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                                                                                                                                                • Ted
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 830
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Write or wrong about beastiality what makes Visa the morals police ?

                                                                                                                                                  If someone went and bought an Uzi and a case of amunition on my visa and then went postal would visa stop proccessing for gun shops ?

                                                                                                                                                  If someone bought candy on visa and lured a kid into a car would they stop processing for candy

                                                                                                                                                  Drunk Drivers cause deaths almost everyday and you can still buy beer on visa?

                                                                                                                                                  Visa are just a bunch of self rightous arrogant mother fuckers imho

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                                                                                                                                                    • pr0view
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 270
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by boneprone

                                                                                                                                                      The dog is tired of being fucked.
                                                                                                                                                      actually, the dog is tired of fucking and getting its cock sucked
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                                                                                                                                                        • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                                          Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 5893
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          My condolances to those running such sites...but good riddance.
                                                                                                                                                          It only hurts the majority of "traditional" adult operators.

                                                                                                                                                          Anyone who thinks that bestiality can in any way be a business
                                                                                                                                                          venture needs rehabilitation.

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                                                                                                                                                            • [Labret]
                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 10945
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Shoplifter


                                                                                                                                                              Anyone who thinks that bestiality can in any way be a business
                                                                                                                                                              venture needs rehabilitation.
                                                                                                                                                              Tell the guys I know who make 7 figures a year off it.

                                                                                                                                                              Legally. In Holland. Where it is legal.

                                                                                                                                                              Why that would have any effect on your business I do not know.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                                                                                  You know.. they really shouldn't be processing for beastiality, lil amber type sites, and cp sites anyway. Its illegal. People go to jail for it.

                                                                                                                                                                  I'm stunned VISA is the one that had to make this happen. Its even a little scary that no one would do anything about it, so now VISA feels it needed to. Who knows what VISA will decide for us next. WTG, Thanks.

                                                                                                                                                                  It's bEstiality, and regardless of your law degree, you obviously don't know the law in all 50 US states.

                                                                                                                                                                  As to Visa, you probably should be aware that to the average Joe, like a guy who works at Visa, they don't care what you are doing, it's all porn.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • FATPad
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 6693
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Ted
                                                                                                                                                                      Write or wrong about beastiality what makes Visa the morals police ?

                                                                                                                                                                      If someone went and bought an Uzi and a case of amunition on my visa and then went postal would visa stop proccessing for gun shops ?

                                                                                                                                                                      If someone bought candy on visa and lured a kid into a car would they stop processing for candy

                                                                                                                                                                      Drunk Drivers cause deaths almost everyday and you can still buy beer on visa?

                                                                                                                                                                      Visa are just a bunch of self rightous arrogant mother fuckers imho
                                                                                                                                                                      Buy Visa. Change the rules.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Brujah
                                                                                                                                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 22157
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                          It's bEstiality, and regardless of your law degree, you obviously don't know the law in all 50 US states.
                                                                                                                                                                          Strike a nerve ? I know its not exactly illegal by the books in 24 or 26 states. The fact remains. People go to jail for it in the US, whether they spell it bestiality or beastiality.

                                                                                                                                                                          As to Visa, you probably should be aware that to the average Joe, like a guy who works at Visa, they don't care what you are doing, it's all porn.
                                                                                                                                                                          And they know that the processors don't care what they process for, so they feel the need to do it themselves. Bravo! Way to go. Lets get the "average Joe" that doesn't care and thinks "it's all porn." and wants to stop processing for it.

                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe the processors could have done something about it before it got to this point.

                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not trying to take a moral highground on the issue. I just think I'd rather see the industry try and clean up its own mess, so the wrong people don't do it for us.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • [Labret]
                                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 10945
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Brujah

                                                                                                                                                                              I just think I'd rather see the industry try and clean up its own mess, so the wrong people don't do it for us.
                                                                                                                                                                              News flash, the "wrong people" want ALL porn off the internet. They do not pick and choose.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  You know something Brujah? The people in this industry can't do anything together.

                                                                                                                                                                                  99% of them are stealing from 99% of the rest, the ones that aren't are too busy cheating on their wives and lying to their associates and friends about what they *REALLY* do in their businesses, that it's one big clusterfuck.

                                                                                                                                                                                  You can talk all you want to about how it's a little tiny percentage, how only the processors etc are wrong, but you know what? You are wrong. The people that cry the loudest are usually the ones either not making any money or doing something just as shady but trying to keep it from being noticed.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Strike a nerve with me? No. I don't care a whit about bestiality, whether it stays or goes. The only thing that bothers me is that Visa is deciding to become the dictator of incomes. You think it will stop at bestiality? Better make sure you don't rely on any revenue from your fetish sites, since I'd be willing to bet that sooner or later they are going to be imcompatible with Visa's image.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Brujah
                                                                                                                                                                                      Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 22157
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by [Labret]
                                                                                                                                                                                      News flash, the "wrong people" want ALL porn off the internet. They do not pick and choose.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Thats what I said. You just missed it I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • FATPad
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 6693
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                                          You know something Brujah? The people in this industry can't do anything together.

                                                                                                                                                                                          99% of them are stealing from 99% of the rest, the ones that aren't are too busy cheating on their wives and lying to their associates and friends about what they *REALLY* do in their businesses, that it's one big clusterfuck.

                                                                                                                                                                                          You can talk all you want to about how it's a little tiny percentage, how only the processors etc are wrong, but you know what? You are wrong. The people that cry the loudest are usually the ones either not making any money or doing something just as shady but trying to keep it from being noticed.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Strike a nerve with me? No. I don't care a whit about bestiality, whether it stays or goes. The only thing that bothers me is that Visa is deciding to become the dictator of incomes. You think it will stop at bestiality? Better make sure you don't rely on any revenue from your fetish sites, since I'd be willing to bet that sooner or later they are going to be imcompatible with Visa's image.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Let's kill American Express while we're at it. They don't allow ANY porn site transactions.

                                                                                                                                                                                          *brings out the the tar, feathers, torches, pitchforks, etc*
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                                                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 22157
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                                              You know something Brujah? The people in this industry can't do anything together.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Its very sad.

                                                                                                                                                                                              You can talk all you want to about how it's a little tiny percentage, how only the processors etc are wrong, but you know what? You are wrong. The people that cry the loudest are usually the ones either not making any money or doing something just as shady but trying to keep it from being noticed.
                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm not blaming the processors exclusively, but you must admit that they're a huge part of it. They're the ones that enable them to run the sites, and make it so profitable and attractive.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Strike a nerve with me? No. I don't care a whit about bestiality, whether it stays or goes. The only thing that bothers me is that Visa is deciding to become the dictator of incomes. You think it will stop at bestiality? Better make sure you don't rely on any revenue from your fetish sites, since I'd be willing to bet that sooner or later they are going to be imcompatible with Visa's image.
                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't think it will stop at bestiality. I AM concerned now, thats its gone too far. As I said earlier, I'm NOT trying to take a moral highground and cast blame. However, its obvious that some services in the industry are more responsible for it than others.

                                                                                                                                                                                              So now that we've already gone this far, we can only wonder whats next. How far will this go? What alternatives will there be left if VISA pulls out from more fetishes? Dialers, tokens, paypal, checking account debit?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • 4Pics
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 7952
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Does this mean CCBill wont process for those hairy women sites where they are basically animals?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hey, even I, working for a cc processor, has been telling people for months to start putting their eggs in different baskets.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If you have one cc processor, make sure you have a backup. If you don't take checks, now's the time to start. If you aren't using dialers or web900 or Paypal, then maybe it wouldn't hurt to look into getting setup. Sort your traffic out based on the best way for them to pay you and it stick, and go that route.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      We're going to start accepting both a Euro and an Asian debit/charge payment very shortly. We're also going to have to change the way we scrub Mastercard -- eliminate more countries-- as well, since MC is putting the smackdown on cb's...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's not just the processors who should be looking for ways to spread the payments in, it's everyone who owns a web site if you ask me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't particularly see that its beastie or the word lolita that set Visa off -- my guess is someone there got a case of the Amex -- not enough money for the chargebacks for those sites. Visa's been making third party report chargebacks *by url* for a few months now, they can take a close look at what's good and what's not.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'd expect that celebs, certain fetishes, and certain companies will be the next ones on the hit list.

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