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spacedog 11-29-2005 08:41 PM

Holy Shit!! Another porn webmaster raided
 
There was a porn raid in the town I live in. Damn, that's too fucking close to home. edgeprod sent me the link.

http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...cle &sid=9986

happened a while ago, but first I heard of it

Spunky 11-29-2005 08:45 PM

Quite a few webmasters have closed their fetish sites because of the raids.Probaby more and more will get nabbed in the coming months.

Bama 11-29-2005 08:58 PM

<rant>

Quote from the article "Could the seizure be related to an obscenity prosecution?"

I hate when speculation is the replacement for actual journalism. If that's the way news stories are covered - add a few more questions...

Could the seizure be related to the fact that some district attorney didn't get to bang his maid as usual that day?

Could the seizure be related to some cop that is taking it on the chin for coming out of the closet?

Could the seizure be related to the U.S. not having a manned mission to Mars yet?

Could the seizure be related to some preacher who's been trying to bang this woman for years and she's rebuffed his advances - come across her website while looking at porn and decided to get even by reporting her?

Report what you know to be true and leave your "catch phrase" speculations in your pocket.
</rant>

Violetta 11-29-2005 09:04 PM

poor girl. stupid fucked up american police officers! :mad:

Tala 11-29-2005 09:08 PM

Is it any wonder why I'm very leery at this point to launch my site much less continue to shoot for it?

There are a lot of reasons why BDSM is being targetted these days, but in my own humble opinion, the main reason boils down to fundies with closed minds who refuse to learn about the lifestyle, preferring instead to hold onto their incorrect notions and jumped-to conclusions.

And you can quote me on that.

directfiesta 11-29-2005 09:15 PM

Couldn't resist ....

http://www.fleurdelis.com/graphics/landofthefree.gif


On a serious note, this is only the tip of the iceberg ... There is a war out there , a war against terrorist, against traitors, against aborters, against immorals ( read gays) and against pornographers ...

These ennemies all have the same goal: to deprive AmeriKA of it's freedom because they hate the way americans live ...

And ... STOP !!!!!!!

Shit, it's the other way around... It's them that hate our freedoms .... So it's them that are the terrorists ....



Just playing with words... and looking for my tinfoil hat .... after all, i'm just a SURFER !!!!! :1orglaugh

adultchica 11-29-2005 09:20 PM

That sucks man. If I were you, I'd lay low on promoting BDSM for a while since your area is being picky

tony286 11-29-2005 09:28 PM

this isnt the feds, so there is more there this could be it :
http://pandemos.net/thefortress/index2.shtml

directfiesta 11-29-2005 09:28 PM

I don't start anymore threads on such subjects , because a lot of right-wing pornographers ( hard to believe that these words can be in a same sentence ... ) right away comes out with:

- why do you hate ameriKa
- the sky is falling
- yo're ( intended ortograph ) an idiot
- put your tin foil hat
- your saddam's relative
- and the rest of the highly educated adjectives or others expletives...

So, I didn't start this thread and didn't start a new one with this :

U.S. agents wrecked business with mistaken porn raid

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration asked the Supreme Court Monday to throw out a lawsuit that seeks to hold federal agents responsible for driving an upstate New York computer software company out of business when the owner's husband was mistakenly targeted in a child pornography investigation.

Douglas Hallward-Driemeier, an assistant solicitor general, told the justices that a 1946 law limiting lawsuits against the government and its employees was designed to protect ''the morale of the civil service.''

The court is being asked to decide the extent of government immunity and whether Susan and Richard Hallock can sue individual customs agents.

In 2000, customs agents learned about a Web site that was being used to display child pornography. A trace of the credit card used to pay the site's subscription fee led the agents to Richard Hallock's home in the village of Mohawk, 70 miles west of Albany.

What the agents didn't know was that Hallock had been the victim of identity theft only a few months before, his business credit card stolen and used to set up the Web site.

Damaged beyond repair

The agents seized computers, software design files, software programming codes, client files and other material -- all of which belonged to Ferncliff Associates, a computer software company owned by Hallock's wife, Susan, through which Richard Hallock developed and sold software.

Several months later, the investigation was closed and no charges were brought against Richard Hallock. When the Hallocks' computers were returned, the equipment was damaged beyond repair and they were forced to close Ferncliff Associates.

The Hallocks asked repeatedly over the years for copies of the hard drives that the Justice Department said the customs agents had made of the Hallocks' computers and other property. The requests were denied.

''The loss of the computer data and source codes was fatal to Ferncliff Associates,'' the Hallocks' lawyers said.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/...seizure29.html


:thumbsup Nice Work, Bushie

jMEGA 11-29-2005 09:32 PM

hmm this might be a good time to let the gimp out of his cage till things cool off

tony286 11-29-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jMEGA
hmm this might be a good time to let the gimp out of his cage till things cool off

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

GotGauge 11-29-2005 09:52 PM

http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/2032057.html

It was a BJ movie, from what I heard...

NoHassleSteve 11-29-2005 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

U.S. agents wrecked business with mistaken porn raid

...

In 2000, customs agents learned about a Web site that was being used to display child pornography. A trace of the credit card used to pay the site's subscription fee led the agents to Richard Hallock's home in the village of Mohawk, 70 miles west of Albany.

...

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/...seizure29.html


:thumbsup Nice Work, Bushie

Fucking Bush. getting the prior administration to pull this shit.

:thumbsup

directfiesta 11-29-2005 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHassleSteve
Fucking Bush. getting the prior administration to pull this shit.

:thumbsup

Exactly what I meant by the ' right-wing" pornographer ...


BTW, they LEARNED ... in 2000 , but when did they bust the place...

But the main point is the damages done are taken care of:

Quote:

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration asked the Supreme Court Monday to throw out a lawsuit that seeks to hold federal agents responsible for driving an upstate New York computer software company out of business when the owner's husband was mistakenly targeted in a child pornography investigation.
But you are right, everything is fine .... close your eyes.

MrJackMeHoff 11-29-2005 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHassleSteve
Fucking Bush. getting the prior administration to pull this shit.

:thumbsup

uh no.. Read it again stupid.. Bush was pres.

MikeSmoke 11-29-2005 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama
<rant>
Report what you know to be true and leave your "catch phrase" speculations in your pocket.
</rant>

<walking along the street with a serious look on my face>
"Will this ever really happen?
Only time will tell."
</walk>

fr0gman 11-29-2005 11:57 PM

Am I the only one bothered by this?

"the police insisted that they were ?looking for something specific? and that they would present the warrant once that had been located."

We are not even sure WHAT we are searching for, but rest assured that as soon as we find it we will let you know.

Jeezus H. Christ-on-a-pogo-stick!

The worst part is that she was not even arrested. That would have been a great opportunity to shoot some REAL bondage content.

http://www.splashtech.co.uk/storage/...uffs%20003.jpg

Now stop jerking off and go to bed!

pocketkangaroo 11-30-2005 12:57 AM

Home of the free? Not really.

RAM 11-30-2005 01:27 AM

Out of control...I'm glad I have moved to Budapest for my production.

The site in question is still up too:
http://www.empressm.net

Paul Markham 11-30-2005 02:04 AM

I lived and worked in porn in England for 20 years and know what it's like to have the police at your door. So glad I live in a free country now. Former Iron curtain country, see the irony?

Americe gets less free, while former Soviet countries get more freedom. do you think that's because rather than sing about it they actually value it?

Sam Granger 11-30-2005 02:18 AM

America and a lot of other countries are changing into shitholes and poorer eastern european countries are getting better.

riddler 11-30-2005 02:34 AM

Kinda odd that she "has all her paper work in order" but doesn't know her fucking amendment rights on illegal search and seizure, gotta love it, there is two sides to this story and most likely she is guilty of some bullshit that's not being reported of..

You really have to be a idiot to let a raid of police come in your house with out seeing a warrant, Because as soon as they say "May i come in?" and you say YES or let them in you wave all rights you have for what ever they find in the fucking house..

so kudos on the stupidity of this lady..

Webby 11-30-2005 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
I lived and worked in porn in England for 20 years and know what it's like to have the police at your door. So glad I live in a free country now. Former Iron curtain country, see the irony?

Americe gets less free, while former Soviet countries get more freedom. do you think that's because rather than sing about it they actually value it?

Can see that irony Paul! :winkwink:

They all talk about "freedoms" and the one's talking loudest have the least freedom.

I moved out of "civilisation" to be free of the bullshit - and, hell, ya notice the difference! :thumbsup

knoxville 11-30-2005 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky
Quite a few webmasters have closed their fetish sites because of the raids.Probaby more and more will get nabbed in the coming months.

I hope that would'nt happen. :(

je_rome 11-30-2005 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Granger
America and a lot of other countries are changing into shitholes and poorer eastern european countries are getting better.

the world is turning in reverse.

go4$ 11-30-2005 03:52 AM

hehe only in america

Linkster 11-30-2005 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riddler
Kinda odd that she "has all her paper work in order" but doesn't know her fucking amendment rights on illegal search and seizure, gotta love it, there is two sides to this story and most likely she is guilty of some bullshit that's not being reported of..

You are exactly right as she posted on another board and dropped hints that this was something entirely different - you might be able to glean the true answer right on her web page - hmmm - she accepts "contributions" for sessions (while I know this is common in the scene - it also can be construed to be prostitution)

HDADULT 11-30-2005 06:15 AM

the sample video shows her pissing in a glass and drinking it.
That is just what was shown. If you produce content like this your just asking for trouble. It was just to set an example most likely to scare people.

bigdog 11-30-2005 06:41 AM

this has to hurt
http://www.sissyslaveplay.com/video_...ssyslavetr.WMV

NickJ 11-30-2005 06:50 AM

This is sure a risky biz.

Bansheelinks 11-30-2005 06:53 AM

the only obscenity here is when administrations, like the Bush administration, who clearly are violating the rights of individuals to safely choose for themselves what they want to do and view.

tony286 11-30-2005 07:49 AM

if you look at the url in my prior post she is a pro dom,so I highly doubt the local police raiding her had anything to do with her website.

High Quality 11-30-2005 07:50 AM

Shit is getting scary these days :(

Iron Star 11-30-2005 07:52 AM

Just come in France!!! To be free...

Damian_Maxcash 11-30-2005 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
I lived and worked in porn in England for 20 years and know what it's like to have the police at your door. So glad I live in a free country now. Former Iron curtain country, see the irony?

Americe gets less free, while former Soviet countries get more freedom. do you think that's because rather than sing about it they actually value it?

Where you around in the "operation spanner" days?

Look it up, its a very interesting part of our history - and shows that the UK is just as fucked up as the US. There are a lot of parallels to the story here.

C_U_Next_Tuesday 11-30-2005 08:05 AM

"Although the Enfield police department insists that it presented Silva with a search warrant, which would provide information about the reason for entering her home-based business, she insists that such is not the case. According to an email sent by Silva, the police insisted that they were ?looking for something specific? and that they would present the warrant once that had been located."

They didnt even have a warrant?..It looks like they are trying to find anything to bust her on and when they do, they can make the proper warrant. I think they call that ILLEGAL SEARCH SIEZURE...

spacedog 11-30-2005 11:50 AM

Apparently there is nothing in the local papers, but it does look fishy that there was no warrant. Maybe she is being investigated for prostitution???

Sebastian Sands 11-30-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog
Apparently there is nothing in the local papers, but it does look fishy that there was no warrant. Maybe she is being investigated for prostitution???

DING DING DING... I happen to know the lady in the story. She has a basement full of BDSM furniture and does "sessions". She did take her web site where she promotes paid sessions down but her EmpressM.net site which is a pay site is still up. Funny how the article states that her 2257 is in order. I actually shot some custom content for her and have not given her all the release forms and ID's (YET) since the actors are not paid (YET). the content however is on her site.

If this was about her web site or 2257 stuff (she is a member of the FSC and can not be touched for that at this very moment) then her site would be down.

However, the raid is most likely for prostitution charges , authorities often mix Dommes and pro Dungeons with prostitution . There is no sex in BDSM. If someone wants to get kicked in the nuts for money then let him.

Just my :2 cents:

Mr Dickovitch 11-30-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Star
Just come in France!!! To be free...

You live in a police state. YOu can't even meet in numbers or go outside past your curfew.
:1orglaugh

Sosa 11-30-2005 12:29 PM

heh that sucks

seeric 11-30-2005 12:41 PM

just so everyone knows. warrants are to be executed prior to the entrance unless the risk exists that there may be destruction of evidence or bodily harm that may cause death or injury. they are not going to go away. i was a law officer. cops do make up reasons and know the ways around their own laws, trust me.

tony286 11-30-2005 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
just so everyone knows. warrants are to be executed prior to the entrance unless the risk exists that there may be destruction of evidence or bodily harm that may cause death or injury. they are not going to go away. i was a law officer. cops do make up reasons and know the ways around their own laws, trust me.

Also could it been they were hoping of catching her with a customer?

Sebastian Sands 11-30-2005 12:43 PM

Did she mention to her lawyer or to any one else writing stuff about her about this website she also has. I know what's on there and it screams obsenity. The authorities are simply going to wait out the rulings.

nofx 11-30-2005 12:44 PM

www.killpolice.com

kill cops because cops kill

latinasojourn 11-30-2005 12:48 PM

my guess is the underlying issue is prostitution, and locals complaining about a "whorehouse" or "torture chamber" in the neighborhood.

doesn't look like an obscenity case, more like a whore who happens to run a website.

NoHassleSteve 11-30-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff
uh no.. Read it again stupid.. Bush was pres.


The raid occurred June 8, 2000

If you think Bush was President, so be it.

:2 cents:

Linkster 11-30-2005 03:34 PM

Exactly - he was sworn into office on January 20, 2001

EmpressM 12-03-2005 07:21 PM

i did not let them in .....they were armed and pushed the fucking door in
you would not of had the chance to just say NO ...your the one who is not informed ..It was a real fuck up on their part and i have a first amendment
attorney..call him if you need facts i can give you his name or go read ynot
for his info
he has filed the papers to the court to get the warrant..
the states attorney wont give it to him..and thats why we are all wondering what the hell it was....no arrest and no charges yet...
they dont ask ...the forensic truck and the other offices were not mentioned much because the newspapers did not cover it...
i wonder why ...I would think that someone would be here with my street completely blocked by all those cops and who ever else they brought here
its more than we think they are sending the hard drives to god knows where but that what we were told.



Quote:

Originally Posted by riddler
Kinda odd that she "has all her paper work in order" but doesn't know her fucking amendment rights on illegal search and seizure, gotta love it, there is two sides to this story and most likely she is guilty of some bullshit that's not being reported of..

You really have to be a idiot to let a raid of police come in your house with out seeing a warrant, Because as soon as they say "May i come in?" and you say YES or let them in you wave all rights you have for what ever they find in the fucking house..

so kudos on the stupidity of this lady..


pornguy 12-03-2005 07:38 PM

It does not matter what type of site you have, you can bet you ass that in the future, you will get that knock.

EmpressM 12-03-2005 07:52 PM

that was shot in arizona by another webmaster....its a model depicting a fetish scene ...You are really not getting this story correct..
its clear that my site is not one of the worst on the net and that its content is that extreme..as far as the people who are in the movies its seperate from my personal site that explaines session.
we do not have sex for money ..its fetish and all types of role play..
god why dont you people getit..
you will be next
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDADULT
the sample video shows her pissing in a glass and drinking it.
That is just what was shown. If you produce content like this your just asking for trouble. It was just to set an example most likely to scare people.



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