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The Duck 11-28-2005 03:29 PM

Math: Formal proof
 
Ive beem beating my head against the wall trying to make a formal proof for this problem

(p v q) -> r
(q v r) -> (~s v t)
p ^ s
.: t

I havent been able to find any good help online and im just not getting anywhere so if anyone good at logic can help me id appreciate it.

gornyhuy 11-28-2005 03:36 PM

College Homework Surfer. QED.

Phoenix 11-28-2005 03:36 PM

ask dr.math

all logic proofs have already been proved...this shouldnt be a hard one...but not something ill spend twenty minutes on...im going home to play video games instead

artman 11-28-2005 03:37 PM

i hate math

The Duck 11-28-2005 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy
College Homework Surfer. QED.

College homework surfer? Ok......

L4 libido 11-28-2005 06:08 PM

math makes me sick.

Elli 11-28-2005 06:21 PM

Good luck.

Fizzgig 11-28-2005 06:33 PM

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PixeLs 11-28-2005 10:12 PM

I don,'t think I encountered that on my college algebra.

3M TA3 11-28-2005 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah
Ive beem beating my head against the wall trying to make a formal proof for this problem

(p v q) -> r
(q v r) -> (~s v t)
p ^ s
.: t

I havent been able to find any good help online and im just not getting anywhere so if anyone good at logic can help me id appreciate it.


where are the numbers?

tony286 11-28-2005 11:43 PM

awwwwwww math

knoxville 11-28-2005 11:59 PM

sorry dude, I can't help you with that equation.

mrthumbs 11-29-2005 12:01 AM

(p v q) -> r equals (~s v t)[p ^ s]3

.: this is just a formula terminator so not relevant

Major (Tom) 11-29-2005 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah
Ive beem beating my head against the wall trying to make a formal proof for this problem

(p v q) -> r
(q v r) -> (~s v t)
p ^ s
.: t

I havent been able to find any good help online and im just not getting anywhere so if anyone good at logic can help me id appreciate it.


Thats actually logic..
lets see if we can do it together..

p or q if then r on line 1. but i believe it becomes an and because its in bracktes, so p&q if then r for line 1

q or r if then it is not the case the s is x or t
p and s
therefore t.

shit man,, i forget which rule it is but you need to flip the first one around and change the cotraction to a conjunction to get the T by itself, then flip the entire second line but change the negative quantifier. then deduce and you should get your conclusion.
hope this helps
duke

Bluewire Ross 11-29-2005 12:28 AM

It's a "i hate math world."

Brent_Moe 11-29-2005 04:13 AM

Any math wizard on this board?

com 11-29-2005 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker
Thats actually logic..
lets see if we can do it together..

p or q if then r on line 1. but i believe it becomes an and because its in bracktes, so p&q if then r for line 1

q or r if then it is not the case the s is x or t
p and s
therefore t.

shit man,, i forget which rule it is but you need to flip the first one around and change the cotraction to a conjunction to get the T by itself, then flip the entire second line but change the negative quantifier. then deduce and you should get your conclusion.
hope this helps
duke

i think i remember hearing something to this effect as I was on my way to sleep in class at some point... does someone want to remind me where these kinds of excercises come into play?

jimthefiend 11-29-2005 05:07 AM

the answer is 4.

The Duck 11-29-2005 05:08 AM

Lets see here

1. p v s 1. premise
2. p 2. simplifciation (1)
3. s 3. simplifciation (1)
4. (p v q) 4. premise
5. ~(p v q) -> r 5..Contiditional equivalence (4)
6 ~p v (q v r) 6 Associated equivalence (5)
7. q v r 7. Disjunctive syllogism (2,6)
8. (q v r) -> (~s v t) 8. Premise
9. ~s v t 9. Modus Pones (7)
10. T 10. Disjunctive syllogism (3,9)

Th!nk 11-29-2005 10:27 AM

hehe! almost everyone here hates math! same with me...doesn't liked it all! :)

MrJackMeHoff 11-29-2005 11:42 AM

I dont know what to say here so : Suck my balls will have to suffice


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