Thoughts on charity, tact, and assholes
 

If I fall down and publicly ask for help, you have a few choices:

1) extend your hand.
2) Ignore me.
3) Pause before extending your hand and see if I really need help. Make sure I am not trying to trick you. Subtly ask around about my motives and intentions.
4) Take the event as an opportunity to *mindfully* discuss the importance of watching where you step.
5) Publicly speculate about my clumsiness and stupidity for falling.



For the record, while am still on the ground and bleeding, options 1-3 are the only safe responses. Option 4 is okay, as long as you tread carefully and be very careful about your tone.

Option 5 makes you an asshole. Period.

:2 cents:

First I would look for tassy. Then I would tell someone to help you up.

i second this motion

lol. Make sure she wasn't the one who pushed me down, wouldja?

it's easy to be nice to nice people, anyone can do that.

It's not easy to be nice to people who arn't nice.

True GREATNESS is found in those that are nice to those who will not say thank you.

Nah, I figured I should at least get some eye candy for extending a helping hand. :1orglaugh

spoken like a true human being with feelings and love for mankind, a quality lacked by a % of the people tht frequent this message board. i share the same sentiment that you do towards this matter.

Whoa I think you're missing a very important option.

Kick you when you're down and loot your valuables.

I would find Tassy and see if she and I can't both get you back "up."

(Come on, someone had to say it)

sounds like your a kind person :thumbsup

if you fell because of your own stupidity, I would not offer a helping hand.

but if you fell accidently, I'd be there for ya

A friend in need is a friend indeed !

2c

this is the only option that I would even consider....if someone I am associated with is in trouble, i will always help...doesn't matter if it is a friend or enemy....because regardless of their status in my mind now, they were close to me at one time

halcyon, don't forget about what we are working on man...I am awaiting an email ;)

You, sir, are a gentleman.

OK, who is at Sleazydream house and posting under his nick?

and what have you done with Sleazydream?

Rare moment of clarity and logic on gfy

No Hal I dont think she would push you down. But to get to her, I might.


No, I would.

Hubba Hubba!

Just emailed you. (I love it) ;)

My natural instinct is 'extend my hand' and it's been this way all my life. Whether it is genuine danger or a setup for whatever reason - it doesn't really matter once I've extended my hand and I've done what my heart and soul thinks is the right thing to do.

When you have kids, you just hope that if ever your child is in any danger or life-threatening situation, and you're not around to help them - that there is one good soul that would at least make a call for help.

Very true :thumbsup

6) Take your cloth, watch, and wallet *sorry I am black*

haha, WarChild that's hilarious!!

:)

Option 7 Dont post your problems on a board called go fuck yourself and expect people to throw roses.

So if your own child were to make a mistake, you would kick him while he was down instead of helping him up to learn from his failure and make it into something worthwhile? You, sir, should never breed.

We're talking about a grown man falling down in this thread, not a fucking child.

if he was doing something like running around like a retarded kid at recess and tripped over something and fell on his face, I wouldnt offer him a helping hand.

now if we were walking along and he tripped unexpectedly on a crack in the sidewalk, i certainly would help him up.

I guess you cannot comprehend something like this

I thought we were generalizing.

Nofx has penis envy

As the saying goes.....treat others the same way you would like to be treated! If you enjoy being an asshole and kicking those when they are down then one day you to may be down and get the shit kicked out of ya. But be nice to those around you and hopefully they will be nice in return. Unfortunately many people abuse the generosity and kindness of others but there are still those out there that are genuine.
I will always lend a hand!

In the words of Fagin

If I made it common practice to help everyone that "fell down" then in less than a month I wouldn't be able to pick myself up.

Although we're being general here I think everyone knows the situation you're basing this thread on...it doesn't take a rocket scientist. And in that situation I chose not to help because of several factors that I have openly aired. If that makes me less of a person or a mean person then that's your opinion. People have accused others of being inhumane, assholes, sick fucks, etc just because they aired their opinions about this matter.

If you sent money it doesn't make you a kind person. It doesn't make you a nice person. It doesn't make you a better person. It makes you a weak minded and easliy influenced person if you didn't know her personally. :2 cents:

I can pull up newspaper articles every single day of good people being hurt. Hell, some good friends of mine were hurt but you didn't see me coming to GFY asking for donations to help them. That's just asinine!

I try not to make it a habit to pay for other people's fuck ups. Call me an asshole or insensitive but that's how I feel. If someone that was a regular here was injured or needed money then I would send it in a heartbeat with no questions asked (like I have many times in the past).

By the way, I donate a shit load of money to the ASPCA and to several local charities on a yearly basis. I just donated $2K to help promote an event for the hearing impared. The difference is that they didn't come to a public forum and ask for it. For the families of Katrina, I donated money to help rescue the stranded animals and loaded up one of my box trucks full of food and water and drove it up there myself.

Once again, there is a huge difference between the two and I'm sorry that people here couldn't see it.

i can quote philisophy - i never said i practiced it

I would help you by extending my arms and I would do that not expecting anything in return.

:thumbsup (that's all I gotta say to that Hal)!

To answer the original question of the thread. Hal, if you fell down I would do everything in my power to help you up. I respect you and like you and somewhat know you, not personally but from this board. If you ever fell down then I would help pick you up in a heartbeat. :2 cents:

Well said.

I know you would, Mr. Richards! I've always been a fan of yours.

http://pissyourself.com/pics/mr_fantastic.jpg

6: Grab your wallet and run.

So, did you fall down?