Review Sites - WTF
 

Who do they think they are, they remind me of food critics, complete wankers.

What gives them them the right to call themselves a reviewer, what is there some sort of porn school that they go to, to class themselves as a reviewer.

This below statement is taken from www.thebestporn.com

If you like em young, innocent, and somewhat expensive!"

(+) Cute innocent looking amateur girl.
(+) Nice sized pics.
(-) Too much softcore.
(-) Too expensive.

I wont mention the site, but the site is a huge site and one of the best sites out there, what gives them the right to say that there is to much softcore, thats what the members want, they dont want to see 10 dicks rammed up her butt, so why is that a negative.

Then they said that the site was to expensive, again, what gives them the right to say that, the site is $ 29.95 per month and you get access to 15 other sites in their network and the content is exclusive, if it was up to me i would be charging $ 99.00 per month.

Do these clowns know how much it cost to produce content or better still how much it cost to market a big network of sites.

Their opinion. If a site gives them a temp user/pass then they know what they are subjecting themselves too.

thats exactly it.

every website you go to, you have an opinon about it. some just like to share their opinions. me, i like to share my opinions (with targeted keywords) :winkwink:

I think these reviewers think they sound more "legit" if they find something...ANYthing...to say negative about a site. LOL. they called some of my movies "grainy"...HAHAHHA. 640x480 1 K bitrate, nice wmv file. Grainy.

No one has ever called one of my movies "grainy". Oh well.

So you didnt like your review ? :1orglaugh

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How quick a post can get of topic, fucking amazing

But still, isn't it just an extra traffic source? Or do you feel that a bad review is bad for overall joins/conversions?

They got great traffic, who cares about anything else.

Who the hell are you telling them they cant or can review a site or your site. Dont want a review, dont put it on the net. Cry baby, just be happy with the attention and potential extra traffic.

We had 1 of our sites reviewed and it kind of got slammed saying it was to pricey. Strange thing is this site has been our bestseller for 2 years now. They didnt seem to get that, even when I pointed out that apart from the review they convert at around 1 in 150 through our affiliate program. So I couldnt give a shit, they do have good traffic, but they seem to put alot of weight on the price of a site, which in my view is bollocks. If you produce exclusive like we do, then yep you can charge more. We charge on average higher than the usuall 29.95 and biz just continues to grow. Other than that I like The Best Porn, but wont be giving away any sites for review for a while :upsidedow

Do you have problems reading or did you only read the first line of my post, it was not my site that was reviewed.

Exactly what I was thinking ...

I doubt rick gives a fuck lol

read more :upsidedow

site is tawneestone

doesnt matter if its your site or not. The statement is still the same.

Who the fuck are you telling them they cant or can review a site or your site!


maybe you should read to.

My members love my sites. Some have rebilled since 1999 on Amateur Upskirts. Best porn didn't give it the best review. Only got a 76 (Pretty Good). The review goes like this:
Pros:
-Good sized collection.
-Twice weekly updates.
Cons:
-Too expensive.
-Small pictures.
Bottom Line: "Loved the large, good quality collection but damn it's expensive!"

The site is $34.99 a month, and they get access to all 3 of my sites. Yeah I know it's expensive, but you know what? My members don't care, AND it doesn't seem like the people that read the review care much either because bestporn has one of the best ratios of all my affiliates..... so really.... if you've got your niche down then it will all turn out good.

Welcome to the world of critiques!

Sometimes, because I am creatively invested in my sites, it bothers me that that particular review site seems to kind of grade on a curve such that newer sites tend to get more generous reviews. But my feelings really don't matter in the greater scheme of things because they send surfers who are ready to buy.

You still dont understand, you clown, i am not telling them they cant review a site, what i am getting at is that, some of the negative points are not valid due to the type of site that it is.

If they are going to review are softcore site, they they should say that on their review that it is a softcore site and give it a good score becuase it is a softcore stie. So take your head out of your ass and wake up.

just be careful who you ask to review and send your passes too and ask a preview first, some write complete shit or stuff thats not even true.

We had to refund some ppl due to some idiot who wrote he got free access to 15 other sites, something weve never done before, not even in our network but big programs.

Yep thats their 1 weakness they base to much on price, sure they are network sites that offer 3000 sites for 25 bucks, full of photo and vid material that has been a million times. Shooting exclusive week in week out costs bling, but the end user knows he is getting smut he cant get elsewhere and so we charge through the nose. My view is the days of 29.95 USD internet are a thing of the past for sites who come up with high quality *Exclusive* video etc ..
especially now the option for EU site owners for charging in euros is more on the rise.

See they are very bad some review sites, that should never of happened, they should have refunded the members money back for you

Review sites are based on the opinions of the reviewers, not a team of objective news reporters. If a surfer signs up for a site & agrees with the reviewer, he's more likely to use that site as a reference the next time he's looking for porn. A lot of their reviews mention a lack of hardcore so that's obviously something they look for & think their surfers would want to know. My review would probably be different because I prefer softcore.

The reviewer is writing his opinion and you are writing your opinion. To bad you guys dont share the same opinion. Its all relative. Whats softcore to you is hardcore to him.

You're an idiot. I bet the site owner isn't complaining about all the sales the listing is generating.

Reviews are subjective, just like food critic reviews. Occasionally one of my reviewers will mention a site is somewhat expensive (Pam's Reviews) so I'll go in myself and look around and see why they think it's so expensive. Usually there isn't much content and mostly filler for the price, so in that context, I agree.

I know if I publish a review and you don't agree, you can email me and I'll talk to the reviewer and have the site redone, even if I have to redo it myself, if you have legitimate concerns.

I'd say if you're not happy with what's written, contact the site/reviewer.

haha this thread is funny, and noone gets why haha

Yeah took us some time but in the end I saw the site and there was a lotta stuff on it thats not true at all. But then again there are some cool review sites too...

The only bad press is no press. :2 cents:

If anyone has a review site and wants to review us, just hit me on ICQ :winkwink:

Probably not, but they do know what surfers want and they will give good reviews to those who can afford to produce it.

Just because you can't afford to manufacture a Benz doesn't mean Consumer Reports should give your economy car good marks.

Someone reading that review that is into softcore will jump all over that site you are referring to here because that's what they WANT. So what if the reviewer doesn't like the fact that there is softcore, the person actually giving up the money does and that's who you are after, right? Maybe the owner of that sites isn't into it, but the ones he attracts might, and THAT is who matters. As long as the ones wanting that see it there, they are going to buy it, regardless of whether the site owner likes softcore or not. :thumbsup

It's up to the reviewers discretion to give his/her opinion and anyone opening themselves up for that pretty well deserves what they get. Some sites want blunt force honesty and some are a little more constructive........ but if you go to ten sites with the same site review, you are going to get a different review style for the same site. It boils down to OPINIONS!

If I were you, I'd enjoy the traffic and sales from the ones that MATTER and leave it at that. It's extra, FREE traffic.. so be happy with it. :winkwink:

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I once had a reviewer bash one of my oldest sites because the site wasn't updated anymore. He said it was terrifc content but had to give it a very low score because of no updates. It's not my fault the model decided to move on with her life. The content is still great and many people have never seen it. Just a very odd review!

you can't please everyone

aww, is it a little early for ya? You need coffee? I have some fresh if you'd like a cup, I'll send it right over to ya. LOL

In this case the softcore reference is a plus. She is softcore. The expensive thing is way off base. the review site should look at his retention and see that she retains like mad so people do not find it expensive.

You're probably getting some traffic from this site so don't complain too much

Did someone say review sites? >>>CLICK<<<

There is one other (who shall remain nameless) who entered our member area, and stole content to use on his website, and wrote a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with our site.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion, and we would not try to inhibit free speech, we have decided to actively co-operate only with Rabbits Reviews. We find them to fair & objective; and not deliberately steal our search engine rankings as seems to be the trend lately among several other review sites.

Thanks I was just kidding around was a long night last night. How are ya :)

It's not odd for a reviewer to give a low score for a lack of updates. Most member's expect that your site is updated on a regular basis and if you can no longer do updates, then of course that's going to affect your score.

If a site is charging 29.95 or 39.95 for a site that isn't regularly updated or is skimpy inside the member's area, then I think the reader needs to know about that. As a reviewer, you have to weigh the pricing versus the type of content (pics, videos, or just feeds), amount of content, AND the exclusivity (big one for me). I'll give a site a better score if it's exclusive but doesn't have a lot of content versus non-exclusive with a bunch of "filler" (a little on niche content and then a lot of feeds and bonuses).

As far as slamming a site for a lack of hardcore, I would agree with you on that issue. Rate a hardcore site as a hardcore site and a softcore site as a softcore site. When I write a review, I will mention that there is no boy-girl hardcore inside a site, but I leave how they feel about that up to the reader and potential member.

Very interesting read here! I love to hear feedback like this from different perspectives. We come from a different angle, and that's the one of sifting through a lot of surfer emails on our reviews who complain opposite ways on the exact same reviews. We've gotten complaints that we didn't mention how hardcore a site was (that it was too much), but we get 10x more emails about people who are upset we didn't mention that there was no hardcore available at all. Some surfers assume way too much, so we try to spell it out for them from time to time. I've liiterally written a pro of "love the softcore glamour material" and a con of "may be too softcore for some" for the same site because they're both true. When reviewing a softcore photography site, I'll base my entertaining score on other softcore photography sites. Same goes with a foot fetish site. But there's a line that has to be drawn since we are also giving it an overall score compared to sites in all genres, and it has to fit in. A site producing one video a month that's only been open for six months charging twice as much as the other guy (no matter how great, wild, exclusive, fun the videos are) just doesn't offer as much as most everyone else, no matter what kind of content it is. You'll notice we have no score for hardcore or softcore though, it's all just words to let people know more about the site.

As far as price goes, it's a pretty objective score, and accounts for 10 pts out of 100 which I don't feel is too much; I actually feel other sites don't take it into account enough. All things being equal, if we can get the exact same content for $15 instead of $30 a month, the cheaper one definitely deserves a higher score. The score change from a $10/mo site to a $30/mo site is only three points, which shouldn't make or break a site in the end. When you're getting into $35-$40 a month site or higher (which is above average from what we see), I'll definitely mention it as a negative. That doesn't mean you don't have the site or content to back it up, it just means when you look at price alone, you charge more than most :)

Keep the comments coming though, they're great. I just wanted to throw my opinion into the matter as someone who works on that specific site day in and day out,

We're definitely not food critics! Those wankers don't know a good DP scene if it was served with a good port for dessert!!

If there was a school to be a reviewer, trust me, I'd make sure all my reviewers mastered it before doing their job. It's taken them time to become experienced in this industry, and they're not perfect... but I can say with confidence that there are very few people (surfers or webmasters) who are as experienced as those 4 individuals. Most review sites contract out their reviews. Instead, we use the same individuals, all 4 of which review the site (for official reviews) and give a final score. Once completed, those reviews are averaged. You get a full review, full scoring, and bullet points from each one.

Those that review sites can attest it's not an easy job by any means. I'm surprised more threads haven't been posted yet because we do make mistakes and it's impossible to make everyone satisfied, let alone the actual site owners!! :1orglaugh

I'd guess to say that most members of Tawnee Stone would LOVE to see more hardcore!! I'd venture to guess her most popular sets are either boy/girl or girl/girl shoots. The "con" isn't a bad one... they don't get marked down for the type of site it is nor did they get marked down from that con. Bottom line is an amateur site can go either way (from very soft to really hard). Those bullet points are very impulsive by our editors, and they are what they are... Agree with it? Who cares, she's (Vanessa) just making her own judgement. Read her full review, and you'll see she exactly what she thinks about the site:

http://tawneestone.thebestporn.com/vanessa.html

"With Tawnee?s consistent quality, the huge jump in content numbers, and the reduction of the sites overall price tag; I can now safely recommend this site to fans of sweet and innocent amateurs who don't require a more hardcore type of content:). "

You are wrong. For 29.95 you get access only to the one site PLUS "best of lightspeed". For 39.95, you get your choice to 10 other lightspeed sites. All-in-all, $30/mo for one site is above the average for an exclusive amateur site, and very expensive when compared to other mega-porn sites and networks. I could go deep into this and list tons of proof, so let me know if you don't believe me.

Price IS key for our users, and our stats don't lie. Our surfers want to get as much as possible for as little as possible, and it's our job to point it out if it exists. We definitely take points off if the price gets high, and why shouldn't we? Our best site (Videobox.com) is $9.95/mo, and it's awesome!!! Very few have the balls to discount their site so much, and you'd be shocked to know how well they're doin at that price! They took a chance, and they're succeeding very well.

You ask "do we know how much content is to produce"? Not by experience, but we know good exclusive content from fly by night crap! Price point is a business strategy, and has nothing to do with cost of the product.

Go ask Crystal Klein if it was cheap to shoot her content...
http://crystalklein.thebestporn.com/ - $14.95/mo

How about Blue Nudes, ever heard of them? very exclusive!!
http://bluenudes.thebestporn.com/ - $14.95/mo

You want to know some of our best sellers, checkout this list:
http://www.thebestporn.com/special_bargain.html

Surfers DO care about price, and we're smart by paying attention.

Besides the reviews, we give complete site facts regarding each site we review (pricing details, niches, content details, trial warnings, spam warnings, company info, affiliate program info, included sites, etc). We're also the only review site to list the scores from other review sites (and avg them).

We got into the review niche to do our best, bottom line. Our reviewers are good, really good. They won't bullshit, and they won't favor anyone. They write what they think, and they admit when they're in error. I will never guarantee perfection, but I will always stand behind my reviewers for the job they do. We produce results because our users TRUST our opinion and rely on it for that matter.

You have every right to judge us as well, and we'll never turn back critisism! Fair or not. :)

Rick M

p.s. Oh btw, we're clowns? Then call me Bozo and laugh at my big red floppy shoes! But you wouldn't be laughing at our conversions and gross sales, and that's a guarantee!

Hey Emma!

I can only assume you're referring to us. Shoot me an e-mail or ICQ. In no way are we trying to steal anything. BTW, I think Rabbit's is top notch as well!!

Regards,
Rick

just looked at best porn and we are number 8, 9 and 20 under new reviews today..

hope they do well

I am doing great. I finally slept this weekend so I am in a good mood and a little cocky. LOL

I totally disagree with your price rule for those who understand the monthly cost doesn't matter if its $10 a month or $100 they will still cancel.. one reason why the 10 dollar sites floped. I test the market to see what works the best. we offer a $1 trial then a $40 a month membership and we still convert amazing and retain amazing ..

Its doing so well I might even raise the prices

your traffic is conditioned to test a trial and cancel so they continue to profit for you as we take the hit as with most review site traffic.. I can afford the hit to see what kind of review we get and exposure

No matter what people dont look at porn as an expense its an impulse buy hell they get upset about there water bill and cable bill monthly you think they wont bitch about there porn bill LOL :2 cents:

People who visit porn review sites aren't as likely to be impulse buyers as other surfers, and because of that probably care more about price than those people who just decide to join because of a nice gallery or tour.

72.5 at my first site submitted, I was pleased with my review.