Is terrorism becoming acceptable now?
 

Forty-nine people were killed in India when three bombs went off. The bombs are being blamed on terrorists.

At what point did it become acceptable to randomly target innocent cilvilians?

Since 11 September 2001

Huh??? :helpme


There have been terroists killing civilians for 40 years!

Re-read the question.

The IRA has been doing bombings ever since I can remember. However, they were somewhat nice about it and called in warnings usually an hour in advance.

But it seems to be much more common now, and more widespread. And they surely have no problem with placing bombs where innocent people are going to get hurt.

It just seems like a horrible thing to do.

Always existed, in various forms.

Now . some put them in public places, others drop them from the sky: same results.

Yeah, I say it's almost like smoking.

People kill people, randomly at times, since the beginning of man.

Humans are a sad beast, plague. Often religion is the driving force in such nonsensicalness (sp?). Blame your knowledge and questions of it on a wired world; continents, peoples, cities more connected than ever before.

I dunno man, but I do not see "Radical Christian" fundamentalists blowing shit up in the world in the name of god.

Been bombings and shootings in India for as long as I remember just never got much coverage before 9-11

I've heard about a few abortion clinics been blown up and a few abortion doctors killed in the name of Christianity.

Terrorism has always been an acceptable form of covertly promoting your countries ideas. I mean, look at history. We supported alot of central american guerilla groups throughout the 70s and 80s and they were nothing more then terrorists fighting against their governments, but we wanted democracy in those countries, so we supported them. Now we couldn't give 2 shits about them or their fight against oppression.

Doesn't seem like anything new to me

What?
The damn Crusades were I beleive was a massacre, in some way shape or form killing people to convey a message was always practiced

Terrorism is only acceptable when the propoganda brings a country to believe in it. War is terrorism. Terrorism is war. An act of terrorism is a declaration of war. A war is a declaration of terrorism.

And terrorism's main driving force is either religeon, or hatred. Granted, religeon preaches hatred, but some Iraqi blowing up a Humvee full of Americans in Iraq is most likely driven by a hatred of America and its people for invading his home. Terrorism is attempting to gain things by using fear and threatening civilians. War is attempting to gain things by using fear and threats against countries full of civilians.

They're one in the same :pimp

Yeah thats true.

Religion is certainly just a poisonous and toxic process. I really see no benefits to it never have.

I really do believe has become MUCH less tolerated since 9/11.

Besides, in the eyes of certain religious nutjobs, infidels are not innocent, even though it might appear that they are to all non-religious nutjobs.

Your opinion of innocence isn't what terrorists base their decisions on.

I think terrorism became acceptable when the europeans came to the americas and terrorized the natives.

But terrorism reached its pinnacle in 1945 when a few 100,000 Japanese civilians were terrorized by a couple of a-bombs.

turn the news on :)

Yeah - muslim terrorism is acceptable now

that's what happens when you don't deal with shit right away...

But don't worry, there won't be any muslims by the end of this century, they're gonna end up like the Indians... a few around to remind you of the past... but not enough to fill up a table for dinner at Red Lobster

That's interesting considering the last time I checked, Islam is one of the fastest-growing religions in America and Europe.

And honestly, this is one of the most shocking thing.

Well, I live in a city at just 5 hours distance from where this attack took place... honestly, it was really-really shocking to see the stories of people affected by this blast.

The timing of the blasts could not have been worst (Diwali, something like the Indian Christmas, is on 1st november.).

Damn! Someone should go and kill these bastards like Russians killed that bastard who was behind the beslan attack. But Guess what? Indian politicians are bloddy neuters who really just care about themseleves.

Anyway nuff ranting for me. :(

I say it's time to stop playing nice and kill all those who want to kill us

Go Bush Go! :p Iran is ours... :thumbsup That would really give an Itch to Osama and other Mullahs.

yep, amazing how ignorant some people up. islam is literally going to take over europe over the next 100 years. ignore it all you like, but in 50 years time (if you are still alive) you will see it very clearly with your own eyes. you can already see it, and if you studied the statistics you would see that islam just may be the future of europe if europeans don't get the balls to stand up.

Your incorrect, the IRA planted many many bombs without giving any prior warning.

One of the biggest bombs the IRA planted was in a place called Omagh in Northern Ireland. They called the police and told them the bomb was at the side of the town that everyone was in.

So in a mad panic the police told everyone to get to the other side of the town, only thing was the IRA had planted the bomb at the side of town that everyone was running to in a panic

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/151985.stm

Women, children, it did not matter to the IRA

Another point, in america it is drummed into you that these terrorists are just CRAZY extremists that hate you for your freedom.

:1orglaugh Yea right ! Most of these terorists organisations have very inteligent people who have very specific goals

As for the topic of this thread

The answer is ALWAYS, always has and always will.

CIA, MI5, Mossad etc have ALL used acts of terrorism in the past to acheive THEIR GOALS.

Terrorism is just a word, its a buzz word these days.

We have a one dimensional view of terrorism. Terrorism isn't just guys blowing themselves up to kill others. That form of terrorism seems more prevalent today than a few years ago, but it's certainly not the only form of terrorism practised. Terrorism always has and always will be commonplace. Many forms of terrorism just aren't labelled as terrorist acts.

You know what the really funny thing is, the IRA gets MOST of its money from America

From stupid fucking americans that think that the IRA is trying to free Ireland from British rule.

Thats the real real sicking thing about the IRA, IT WAS FUNDED by AMERICA !!!

That means America supports terrorism :) Wow who would have thought

Thousands of innocent people in Northern Ireland murded by the IRA, funded by America

ahaha what? How many wars were faught for "god"

no they just kill abortion doctors.

I fucking hate Bush and I love america if anybody is plotting to kill us I say kill them first.

No but you do see them invading countries and shoving western ideals down everyone's throat.

Not to mention about not giving a shit about a bunch of muslim pakistans. (More was done for hurrican Katrina)

But on that note:

Terrorism has drastically increased since George Bush fucked with them. You want it to stop..
Assasinate the American Emporer.

Terrorism is nothing new RH - the US "discovered" it on 9/11 and then proceeded to forget who committed that offense and elected to have a war with Iraq instead and kill far more innocent people than were ever killed on 9/11.

The Basques in Spain (ETA etc) have been committing "terrorist acts" since Roman times, the IRA have been doing the same. Both of them consider they have a "cause" - and looking at history, they sure do. Blowing up non-military targets and innocent people can't get sympathy for any cause that may have existed.

There are literally 1000's of "orgs" of people who feel they have been dumped upon and, often justifiably, they get pissed. Fortunately the majority don't blow people up to make a point.

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Originally Posted by Dalai lama Since 11 September 2001

incorrect! terrorist attacks, especially suicide missions, have been happening long before 9/11 happened in the united states. terrorism may be more visible to the american eye now though - with media and the government intentionally hyperfocusing us on that fear so that we don't pay attention to other (imho) scarier issues. :2 cents:

Agree Tassy! :thumbsup

You hit that nail on the head.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It all depends on which side of the "war" you're on.

Stay out of other people's politics and people with bombs strapped to their backs won't visit your country or slam planes into your buildings.

Then you just have to deal with the locals (FLQ in Canada as an example) or The Timmy McVeighs in the USA...

couldn't have said it better myself.

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Now that America, did go into this.

they have to clean it up.

massive clean up in Iraq.

we are talking executions in public of anyone suspected of terrorism or terrorism acts.

then move into Iran and Syria, clean them up too.

that will stop the money supply.


any religious figures that is found promoting terrorism is to be hanged in public.

families of anyone that committed suicide bombing is to be executed in public.

i think this kind of approach can end our big tough terrorists in their track.


well.. maybe i am just to harsh. but i am sure it would work.

bahahahahahahaahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahhhahaa hahahahahahaah

Yea right!

So over a thousand years of history of people and goverments attempting to do exactly this hasn't fixed the problem. But America with all it's might can be even tougher and fix this.

Get over yourself.
The way to get rid of terrorism is to keep it from taking root.
1) Help poor nations feed themselves. (IE: Share the wealth)
2) Don't judge another nation's values or customs.
3) eliminate prejudice, classism and hatred.

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"Get over yourself.
The way to get rid of terrorism is to keep it from taking root.
1) Help poor nations feed themselves. (IE: Share the wealth)
2) Don't judge another nation's values or customs.
3) eliminate prejudice, classism and hatred.
4) Stop trying to force your ideals down somebody else's throat."

hay that part we know.
but America didn't do that.. and now the only way to fix the problem is to become as evil as your enemies.

hay this people.. have no respect for life .. why show restrains when facing such a worthless enemy.

treat them as they treat you

oh yaa.. in the same time .. you must increase the wealth of that country.

and regarding the past.. well it did work, it always worked. as long as the Roman empire was though .. they were in power.



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I don't know too much about the IRA and the Basques........ But there are some basic things I fail to understand. Here in the US we have a group of peple called the Amish. No other modern day group of people is stranger; They live without and electricity, cars, etc.... pretty much live as they did over a century ago. Yet these people are indeed Americans and live peacefully here. They don't go around blowing people up trying to get their own country started. I don't know the details of the IRA and the and Basque, but why can't they just accept that their hosts aren't going to give them what they want.

In the Middle East it's about Isreal. Isreal is never going to leave. It's unheard of for a modern day country the size of Isreal to just disolve itself and move to a different place. It's never going to happen.

Buddy,
are you smoking crack?
Because your post is really halting and difficult to understand.

MetroPornTour,

so you are going to start personal insults now??
i guess you got nothing to say.
:)

Drop a few bombs on their " land", try to impose on them the cars, electricity and so on, then come back here to post how that went ....

Think of Wacko 2 seconds

Insults?

I think she was very kind and restrained .....

I could throw a few your way, but you are not worth it.

It wasn't an insult.
I just don't have a fracking clue where you are trying to go with this conversation.

They are "freedom fighters"
The IRA want the English out of Northern Ireland and they want N.I. to be a part of Ireland or independant (not sure which).
ERA (Basque) wants their region of Spain to be independant.

Lets not forget the 168 people killed in Oklahoma City in 1995. Just because it wasn't a raghead that did it doesn't make it any less of a terrorist attack.