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TMM_John 10-27-2005 09:53 PM

Affiliates speak now or forever hold your peace!
 
Well, not forever :) But at least a few months.

We're preparing NATS v3 for release in Vegas.

We want to hear from you, the affiliates, about what YOU want in the program. Please, let us know what you want.

We're not releasing all the details on what we're planning so far but a few things...

We are doing a new much better looking "base" interface for programs. Programs can and will still of course edit their templates to look how they wish but the programs who choose not to will be given a much prettier interface for their affiliates.

More indepth stats will be provided. We're going to do our best to blow everyone away with what they can see stats wise. This is one thing we're not revealing details on until launch but all feedback is appreciated on what you would like to see. You can post here or contact us directly of course.

Multi-language/multi-template. We're adding a full blown multi-language/multi-template system. This will function as skins so that you can view the "base" templates mentoned above in various languages even if the affiliate program does customization (as long as they choose to still keep the base skin) and we'll include base skins for WAP stats, etc.

We'll be adding lots of neat gizmos like RSS feeds for hosted galleries, more geo-targetting stuff, etc.

There is a lot to come. I know it sounds cliche but you haven't seen anything yet :) We'd love your input. We value affiliate's opinion of our software just as much as the program owners so please, let us know what you would like to see.

sonofsam 10-27-2005 10:01 PM

Comon guys, i've seen a lot of people who always have gripes and wish nats was this way or that way... this is a good opportunity to share your suggestions in an appropriate thread... cause in the end.. it benefits you, the affiliate

babz4u 10-27-2005 10:09 PM

All of the affiliates that I have talked to just don't want to be cheated but feel that they are. I don't think NATS means anything to them. They feel they are cheated because the stats they have don't make any sense vs. the stats that their sponsors have. Maybe you should focus on the client side software that talks to your server side software.

stevo 10-27-2005 10:10 PM

Quick question about a NATS feature:
How do you add thumbnail previews to "Downloadable Content" in the adtools section? All i see is "Name / Group / Content Zip", but no add thumbnail field. This would be nice to have, therefore affiliates wouldnt have to download large zip files just to preview the free content.

jscott 10-27-2005 10:11 PM

how about for the referral links to be the same? for example

when i got to "Link Codes" i get this url: http://www.teendolls.com/track/Mzk6NDo0/

.......ok forget it, you must've already fixed it, used to be another linking option where it would be something like http://www.teendolls.com/user=?13
or something

only should be 1 linking code, and then the option with encoding or not

but like i said, looks like it's already fixed :thumbsup

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TMM_John 10-27-2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babz4u
All of the affiliates that I have talked to just don't want to be cheated but feel that they are. I don't think NATS means anything to them. They feel they are cheated because the stats they have don't make any sense vs. the stats that their sponsors have. Maybe you should focus on the client side software that talks to your server side software.

Some like it, some don't. Some prefer CCBill. Some prefer custom. Some prefer something else. I speak with a lot of affiliates and I try to do it anonymously. The vast majority I speak to like NATS overall. There are usually a few little areas where they feel it can be imrpoved. Thats what we're looking for here.

By "stats they have vs. stats their sponsors have" and "click side software that talks to your server side software" I have no clue what you mean. Are you sure you know what NATS is?

TMM_John 10-27-2005 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott
how about for the referral links to be the same? for example

when i got to "Link Codes" i get this url: http://www.teendolls.com/track/Mzk6NDo0/

.......ok forget it, you must've already fixed it, used to be another linking option where it would be something like http://www.teendolls.com/user=?13
or something

only should be 1 linking code, and then the option with encoding or not

but like i said, looks like it's already fixed :thumbsup

Are you talking about the referral code for sending to the affiliate program itself?

That can be linked two ways. It can be linked directly with the /?user=13 like you said or it can be setup as a full site in NATS and linked with the normal link codes and tracked via campaigns, etc. That is why you might see it both ways sometimes. The vast majority of programs use the 2nd method and set it up as a full blown site.

jscott 10-27-2005 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
Are you talking about the referral code for sending to the affiliate program itself?

That can be linked two ways. It can be linked directly with the /?user=13 like you said or it can be setup as a full site in NATS and linked with the normal link codes and tracked via campaigns, etc. That is why you might see it both ways sometimes. The vast majority of programs use the 2nd method and set it up as a full blown site.

yea i was talking about sending to the affiliate program

thanks for the info man

babz4u 10-27-2005 10:24 PM

Yes I am sure that I know what it is. I was just suggesting that you may want to investigate the possibility that everyone doesn't belive in you. So maybe you should focus on software that is not only under the sponsor's control

TMM_John 10-27-2005 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo
Quick question about a NATS feature:
How do you add thumbnail previews to "Downloadable Content" in the adtools section? All i see is "Name / Group / Content Zip", but no add thumbnail field. This would be nice to have, therefore affiliates wouldnt have to download large zip files just to preview the free content.

Good question. There's an outside chance it's a template mistake. I will speak with Fabian in the morning and let you know.

TMM_John 10-27-2005 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babz4u
Yes I am sure that I know what it is. I was just suggesting that you may want to investigate the possibility that everyone doesn't belive in you. So maybe you should focus on software that is not only under the sponsor's control

There will always be people who think as they wish and believe the world is against them.

I'm still confused by what you are saying tho.

uno 10-27-2005 10:53 PM

How about a possible rebills column next to the actual rebills for that day?

stevo 10-27-2005 11:04 PM

Here's what i would like to see, its hard to explain, but ill try...

Under the "admin stats" section (the page that shows date/rawhits/unqhits/ratio/etc). When you click one of the unique hits links - it loads a page with a huuuuuuge table with 1000+ rows of all the referrals for that day. Instead of showing all the referral websites for that day, is there any way just to show the referrals that have actually sent a signup? Maybe have a small "referral signup summary" table on top of the regular "referral" table with all the referral links that have just sent only signups for that day (that way you don't have to skim the huuuuge table to see what referral sites perform best). You'de then have a clean table showing exactly where the signups are coming, and you'll have a cleaner view of what galleries are selling the best for that day, etc...

For example if i submit a movie gallery, and this one gallery has 100+ recip pages. Some recip pages get alot of hits and send decent traffic to the sponsor, some only get a few hits. So when i view this huuuge referral table its hard to see how each individual gallery performs because each individual .html page gets its own referral on the table - so each recip page that sends traffic gets its own row in this huuuge table and everything gets mixed up with all the other referrals. So instead of having to search the entire huuuuge table to see how many signups this gallery makes, there could be a summary on top showing just the referrals with signups...

Easton 10-27-2005 11:08 PM

i love NATS more and more with each upgrade... this is truly great software

one thing i would like in the Admin panel for us owners is the ability to not load all the hosted galleries or zip content each time we open the page to add new ones... i have over 500 so it's a huge page to load every time for no reason

some sort of pruning would be cool... is that do-able at all in any way?

babz4u 10-27-2005 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
There will always be people who think as they wish and believe the world is against them.

I'm still confused by what you are saying tho.

you know exactly what i am saying. the 80/20 rule. if you really want to get the other 80 then give them something that really helps. You know that is where most of the traffic comes from.

selena 10-27-2005 11:14 PM

I would like to be able to query the database by affiliate join date.

stevo 10-27-2005 11:18 PM

Instead of sorting the hosted galleries by date (newest on top), is there a way for the affiliates to sort by alphabetical order?

For example lets say i have 500 hosted pornstar galleries. Instead of having to search every 500 hosted galleries for a certain pornstar, can they just look her up alphabetically?

TMM_John 10-27-2005 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babz4u
you know exactly what i am saying. the 80/20 rule. if you really want to get the other 80 then give them something that really helps. You know that is where most of the traffic comes from.

No. I have no clue what you're saying.

We don't have client/server software, so I have no clue what you mean by that.

You say the stats don't show the stats the sponsor has? What do you mean? As much detail? The affilites don't have access to the credit processor stats? Again, no clue what you mean.

I have no idea what an 80/20 rule is.

We're looking to give them "something that really helps". What is it?

What is where most of the traffic comes from? When did we start talking about traffic?

Suggestions are what we're looking for not vague comments. If you have one to make please by all means do so. If you're just here to make random comments and when I ask you what you mean tell me that "you know exactly what i am saying" then please play in someone else's thread. This thread is here to be constructive not have a back-and-forth get no where discussion about nothing.

TMM_John 10-27-2005 11:19 PM

I'm getting tired. Please keep the good suggestions and questions coming. I'll get them all responded to in the morning :)

Easton 10-27-2005 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
I'm getting tired. Please keep the good suggestions and questions coming. I'll get them all responded to in the morning :)

good stuff... just to make sure my suggestion didn't get lost in the squabble:

i love NATS more and more with each upgrade... this is truly great software

one thing i would like in the Admin panel for us owners is the ability to not load all the hosted galleries or zip content each time we open the page to add new ones... i have over 500 so it's a huge page to load every time for no reason

some sort of pruning would be cool... is that do-able at all in any way?

TMM_John 10-27-2005 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easton
good stuff... just to make sure my suggestion didn't get lost in the squabble:

i love NATS more and more with each upgrade... this is truly great software

one thing i would like in the Admin panel for us owners is the ability to not load all the hosted galleries or zip content each time we open the page to add new ones... i have over 500 so it's a huge page to load every time for no reason

some sort of pruning would be cool... is that do-able at all in any way?

It won't. Yours was one of the ones I was referring to in the quote :) I'll get to them all in the moring. I want to have Fabian around when I do.

jaYMan 10-27-2005 11:26 PM

I'd like the url to the custom NATS mod catalog.

jpoker 10-27-2005 11:26 PM

- one thing I would love to see is the ability to obtain campaign link codes more quickly. The current method goes like this:

- select a campaign from pulldown menu
- click on 'Next Step'
- select program to use from pulldown menu
- click on 'Next Step'

At this point I have link codes for one particular campaign. I have to repeat this process for every campaign and it can take a while if you use many campaigns.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to select a site, a program and then view, on one page, all of the link codes for each campaign.

Alternatively, perhaps consider not having to create a campaign before using it much like perfectgonzo does it. Here's a quote from PerfectGonzo's site:

To track special promotional campaigns, you can add a SHORT, ALPHANUMERIC (only letters and numbers, no spaces, dashes, odd characters etc..) to the end of the linking code that is less than 20 characters. You can use as many unique campaigns as you want for your linking codes and they will show in stats with the traffic and sales count for each one, when clicking the date. If you need help using this feature please contact support.


Given a choice, I'd prefer the perfectgonzo method of handling campaigns. But if you continue on your current path, then the ability to import a list of campaigns would be useful as well. I tend to use the same campaign names for many affiliate programs and it would save me time if I could simply provide a file with all the campaign names that I want shortly after signing up for a program instead of having to create them one-by-one.

Easton 10-27-2005 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
It won't. Yours was one of the ones I was referring to in the quote :) I'll get to them all in the moring. I want to have Fabian around when I do.

awesome :thumbsup

emthree 10-28-2005 01:31 AM

Subscribing - shall respond tommottow.

3xTom 10-28-2005 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easton
i love NATS more and more with each upgrade... this is truly great software

one thing i would like in the Admin panel for us owners is the ability to not load all the hosted galleries or zip content each time we open the page to add new ones... i have over 500 so it's a huge page to load every time for no reason

some sort of pruning would be cool... is that do-able at all in any way?

DAMN STRAIGHT I hate that!!!!!!!!!!!!

HDADULT 10-29-2005 07:50 PM

Off the subject but does Nats have a site? I am trying to learn more about the software however I cant find in google....thankx

TMM_John 10-29-2005 07:51 PM

NATS info: www.getnats.com
NATS demo: www.democash.com
Some NATS clients: www.natssponsors.com

To the unanswered questions I will get on them with Fabian tomorrow. Overlooked it today.

BV 10-29-2005 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDADULT
Off the subject but does Nats have a site? I am trying to learn more about the software however I cant find in google....thankx


http://www.getnats.com/

cybermike 10-29-2005 08:47 PM

Can you do the same thing lightspeed does and if a refered member joins then quits then joins again the webmaster gets credit?

Nathan 10-30-2005 04:59 PM

Hey everyone,

we would really like to get some more feedback from everyone... don't be shy..

Damian_Maxcash 10-30-2005 05:32 PM

Im not sure how your back end works but from I see it is all pretty centralised accross various programs.

What about a central control panel for the various NATS programs I promote. It could be anything from just a running total from all sites - perhaps in a standalone program - to a full blown system where I can get and do everything for all networks with just one login.

It could do stats comparisons (although Im not sure the sponsors would like that), integrated banner management - top converting sites getting better weighting etc.

It would seriously shake things up. Sponsors would have to perform to stay in the game.

But Im guessing thats exactly why it wont happen LOL

gideongallery 10-30-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
Well, not forever :) But at least a few months.

We're preparing NATS v3 for release in Vegas.

We want to hear from you, the affiliates, about what YOU want in the program. Please, let us know what you want.

We're not releasing all the details on what we're planning so far but a few things...

We are doing a new much better looking "base" interface for programs. Programs can and will still of course edit their templates to look how they wish but the programs who choose not to will be given a much prettier interface for their affiliates.

More indepth stats will be provided. We're going to do our best to blow everyone away with what they can see stats wise. This is one thing we're not revealing details on until launch but all feedback is appreciated on what you would like to see. You can post here or contact us directly of course.

Multi-language/multi-template. We're adding a full blown multi-language/multi-template system. This will function as skins so that you can view the "base" templates mentoned above in various languages even if the affiliate program does customization (as long as they choose to still keep the base skin) and we'll include base skins for WAP stats, etc.

We'll be adding lots of neat gizmos like RSS feeds for hosted galleries, more geo-targetting stuff, etc.

There is a lot to come. I know it sounds cliche but you haven't seen anything yet :) We'd love your input. We value affiliate's opinion of our software just as much as the program owners so please, let us know what you would like to see.

campaign tracking of rebills not just signups

gideongallery 10-30-2005 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpoker
- one thing I would love to see is the ability to obtain campaign link codes more quickly. The current method goes like this:

- select a campaign from pulldown menu
- click on 'Next Step'
- select program to use from pulldown menu
- click on 'Next Step'

At this point I have link codes for one particular campaign. I have to repeat this process for every campaign and it can take a while if you use many campaigns.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to select a site, a program and then view, on one page, all of the link codes for each campaign.

Alternatively, perhaps consider not having to create a campaign before using it much like perfectgonzo does it. Here's a quote from PerfectGonzo's site:

To track special promotional campaigns, you can add a SHORT, ALPHANUMERIC (only letters and numbers, no spaces, dashes, odd characters etc..) to the end of the linking code that is less than 20 characters. You can use as many unique campaigns as you want for your linking codes and they will show in stats with the traffic and sales count for each one, when clicking the date. If you need help using this feature please contact support.


Given a choice, I'd prefer the perfectgonzo method of handling campaigns. But if you continue on your current path, then the ability to import a list of campaigns would be useful as well. I tend to use the same campaign names for many affiliate programs and it would save me time if I could simply provide a file with all the campaign names that I want shortly after signing up for a program instead of having to create them one-by-one.


actually that is currently available under nats, works great i got the info from john a couple of months ago, but i saved it on my office computer so i will have to get but john could post the syntax for it here

gideongallery 10-30-2005 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery
actually that is currently available under nats, works great i got the info from john a couple of months ago, but i saved it on my office computer so i will have to get but john could post the syntax for it here

ok found the chat transcript from my office

here is the link

gideongallery 11-03-2005 08:55 AM

wish list
xml export/ or feed of campaigns/sales data.

published programable api for queing data within nats ( i have a couple of programming ideas which would benefit from being able to know which gallery for example returns the most money)

Screaming 11-03-2005 09:55 AM

Lose the install costs.

MattO 11-03-2005 10:00 AM

I'd like a stand alone app maybe where we can check all our NATs programs' stats at once.

u-Bob 11-03-2005 10:10 AM

1. better stats.
2. an option to receive an email (plaintext ofcoz) when I've got a signup,... (like Leading Edge Cash has)
3. an easier (quicker) way to get the link codes.
4. better stats.

TheDoc 11-03-2005 10:59 AM

A lot of these features listed NATS can already do but the site owners don't know how to do it..

1) NATS can send emails on every signup the webmaster produces, you just can't turn it off for your account so many programs don't use it.
2) Programs can have quick linking codes right on the first page when you login, or any page within the system.
3) NATS does offer a mass stat checking program, I just don't remember the name.
4) You can auto add campaigns to your linking codes.
http://knowledgebase.toomuchmedia.co...link_code.html

NATS has a ton of features that many many program owners don't use, don't know about, and don't understand.

kristin 11-03-2005 11:07 AM

I'd like NATS to be able to give me oral when I am doing webmaster payouts please.

Make this effective IMMEDIATELY!

TheDoc 11-03-2005 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin
I'd like NATS to be able to give me oral when I am doing webmaster payouts please.

Make this effective IMMEDIATELY!


Looks like two times a month you get oral for John..

TheDoc 11-03-2005 11:13 AM

As for feature requests...

1) Every email type should be able to go out to webmasters and that webmaster should be able to turn them on/off.

2) Hosted Gallery Statistics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least clicks from a gallery and joins from a gallery, that shouldn't be to hard to setup. More stats the better :)

3) Hits sent to the exits, maybe a redirect code so we can track overall clicks from exits.

4) The THANK YOU page after a signup should display the new members username & password.. At least for CCBill & Epoch. This is a MUST feature.. Enough that I will pay to have it done tomorrow if possible.

5) Built in lookup tools for members, look up user info, billing details, etc.

6) Better edit member details & information. Change sites, change membership types, etc..

7) Some may want this automated but myself I would like to set it by hand. I would like to be able to make a webmasters account use a set cascade. So if that webmaster wants to only send to ccbill then it will send his visitors to the ccbill cascade.

8) Billing Ping & Uptime checks.. A system that checks to see if the billing company is up, if it isn't then it changes the cascades to use the alt processor until that billing company comes back online.

9) Better admin protection, enter my Cclass into the config and only my Cclass can access the admin area.

Well about all I can think of for now, if you want more ideas just hit me up John :)

HELMY 11-03-2005 12:00 PM

** xbiz awards is sold out! **
 
we've been blown away by the demand to this year's show - lotsa surprise winners and industry celebs - will be one helluva good time for everyone in attendance!

plz note that XBA is now officially *sold out* - tickets are ONLY AVAIL through event sponsors - no ticket / no show - sorry. :mad:

PLATINUM
Adam & Eve
Adult Digital Media
Epoch
HotMovies
IWantU

GOLD
Hustler
VideoSecrets
Webair
Cyberage
CCBill


we look fwd to rockin' you in just a couple of weeks! :winkwink:

Trax 11-03-2005 12:02 PM

show the amount of active members in the aff area !! :)
a must have feature for every revshare programs aff area

TMM_John 11-03-2005 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob
1. better stats.

This is the kind of comment that is useless. Obviously better is better. We're asking what is better.

TMM_John 11-03-2005 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
show the amount of active members in the aff area !! :)
a must have feature for every revshare programs aff area

The problem is getting 30 billers and gateways to cooperate with giving us the data to do so.

TheDoc 11-03-2005 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
show the amount of active members in the aff area !! :)
a must have feature for every revshare programs aff area


NATS programs can show the active member count to an affiliate. The NATS owner only needs to put {$active_members} in the members stats template.

Dalai lama 11-03-2005 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
show the amount of active members in the aff area !! :)
a must have feature for every revshare programs aff area

That's already a NATS feature. I have it installed and the affiliates love it :thumbsup


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