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Gretta von Pissflaps 10-13-2005 09:52 PM
Thank God. The Euros are disconnecting from the Internet.
 
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/new...589967,00.html

Quote:
A battle has erupted over who governs the internet, with America demanding to maintain a key role in the network it helped create and other countries demanding more control.
The European commission is warning that if a deal cannot be reached at a meeting in Tunisia next month the internet will split apart.

Doctor Dre 10-13-2005 09:55 PM
Thank god ? What a troll ... that'd be REALLY bad.

Gretta von Pissflaps 10-13-2005 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Thank god ? What a troll ... that'd be REALLY bad.
If you don't like our internet get the fuck off you bitches. We built it we will run it.

Donny 10-13-2005 10:01 PM
preach it brotha

BoNgHiTtA 10-13-2005 10:04 PM
Oh jeez, we wont get the russian scammers and phishers over here? What a sad sad day...

Lets split!!! I am all for it!!

kaori 10-13-2005 11:46 PM
yup, it'll split and become a porn free, religious wasteland ruled over by the Bush family...
sounds like a fun place!

KingK7 10-13-2005 11:51 PM
Teh interweb is great

Mefo 10-13-2005 11:55 PM
That means twice as much porn!

reynold 10-14-2005 12:16 AM
that is just great.

KRL 10-14-2005 01:56 AM
I think the main problem is the Europeans want to turn the Net over to the United Nations, and the US knows they are amongst the most corrupt and incompetent organizaitons on the planet even though that too is based in the USA.

More than likely there is another reason and agenda. I'm sure the NSA has all sorts of goodies and monitoring equipment operating on the highest root levels of the Net, that even goes beyond Echelon and the US doesn't want anyone else to be able to do that or know about it.

Rui 10-14-2005 02:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRL
I think the main problem is the Europeans want to turn the Net over to the United Nations, and the US knows they are amongst the most corrupt and incompetent organizaitons on the planet even though that too is based in the USA.

More than likely there is another reason and agenda. I'm sure the NSA has all sorts of goodies and monitoring equipment operating on the highest root levels of the Net, that even goes beyond Echelon and the US doesn't want anyone else to be able to do that or know about it.
So you are saying the USA is unlike United Nations (and what you clam) not corrupt and incompetent?....ohh man :1orglaugh

Gasper 10-14-2005 02:22 AM
Hope this will never happen :Oh crap

darksoul 10-14-2005 02:29 AM
this is what happens when you let clueless people in charge
I bet none of them knows whats a bit.

fuzzylogic 10-14-2005 02:32 AM
the EU claims the net will split next month if an agreement is not met. what are the ramifications of a split net?

Webby 10-14-2005 03:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rui
So you are saying the USA is unlike United Nations (and what you clam) not corrupt and incompetent?....ohh man :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh

Sheesh... the US is the most corrupt country in the western world! And part of the learned hatred of the international community is simply because it is that - namely an assembly of nations with more "power" as a group. More power means "something to hate" in caveman terms.

On an EU commission on the net... Hell, they have their own agenda and can be trusted with shit. Rest assured the EU will go the same way as the US over time.

Ya can always rely on "powers" to start a war over ... well... anything and try to control it while screwing it up in the process. That's what happens when countries find their boots bursting at the seams.

MetroPornTour 10-14-2005 03:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRL
I think the main problem is the Europeans want to turn the Net over to the United Nations, and the US knows they are amongst the most corrupt and incompetent organizaitons on the planet even though that too is based in the USA.
The United Nations is nothing more than an apology by the United States for dropping "the bomb" on Japan. It is a fucking joke at best and the wrost a political tool used by america to give the appearance of "give-a-shitness" to the problems on the international scene.

I'm certain there is some corruption in it. All political organizations do.
But I'm more certain that it is incompetent to the point of being a bad joke.

More would get done and there would be great stability in the world if we just got rid of the damn organization.

For example the George Bush would have either ordered the military out of Iraq by now. Or he would have used an extreme amount of force to fix the problem.


In the former,

He has already made the United States look like criminal nation for invading the place when he should have left well enough alone. He would have said, "well we fucked this up." Lets pull out. Instead he is obligated to stay and fix it.

In the later,

Now that he fucked himself and screwed the Iraqis to the wall. He can't go for a quick resolution by force to just get it over-with. IE: Well we opend up a can of worms lets just do what it takes to fix it. Instead he now has to worry about appearing to be too militant or like the man he claims to have removed.

Instead more people die.. Insurgents now use it for a "training camp." And George W."ithout a doubt an Idiot" Bush continues to make one long sea of moronic fuck ups after another. Because he can't just wash his hands of it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KRL
More than likely there is another reason and agenda. I'm sure the NSA has all sorts of goodies and monitoring equipment operating on the highest root levels of the Net, that even goes beyond Echelon and the US doesn't want anyone else to be able to do that or know about it.
Without a fucking doubt.

Not only that.. But it gives the United States a measure of control over the economies of other nations that have come to depend on the net. There are two ways to seize control of another country. The first is by force and the second is by controling their economy.

Just look at canada for an example. It is sooo fucking controlled by the United States that when an american farts a canadian says "excuse me."

TetsuoIronMan 10-14-2005 03:21 AM
Take the internet back from the corrupt leaders! Long live the Socialist Peoples Republic of the Internet!

Webby 10-14-2005 03:30 AM
Passing thought... ICANN needs to be dumped for a start and a "real" DNS org set up in any neutral country with levels of "trustees" democratically elected by MetroPornTour and I - that, sure as fuck, will be more balanced than ICANN is now! :1orglaugh

Markit 10-14-2005 04:54 AM
a split would be a really bad thing for us

Pornopat 10-14-2005 05:01 AM
I doubt this will happen.
Why do I seem to be the only one and is anybody even taking this slightly serious?

MadCat 10-14-2005 05:06 AM
Actually, if the rest of the world split, USA will be fuckt.

JFK 10-14-2005 05:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaori
yup, it'll split and become a porn free, religious wasteland ruled over by the Bush family...
sounds like a fun place!
yes, I am really looking forward to that one :disgust

sleazybunny 10-14-2005 05:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TetsuoIronMan
Take the internet back from the corrupt leaders! Long live the Socialist Peoples Republic of the Internet!
I like that idea.

Lets start a global revolution!!! With me as People's Emperor!! :thumbsup

Lol

I.

Marshal 10-14-2005 07:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRL
I think the main problem is the Europeans want to turn the Net over to the United Nations, and the US knows they are amongst the most corrupt and incompetent organizaitons on the planet even though that too is based in the USA.

More than likely there is another reason and agenda. I'm sure the NSA has all sorts of goodies and monitoring equipment operating on the highest root levels of the Net, that even goes beyond Echelon and the US doesn't want anyone else to be able to do that or know about it.
UN?! That's not even close to the thruth... There are some other organizations that can run The Net very well...
I don't know why are all the Americans sceptical about "loosing control of the Internet"? They would not have NSA on their back as it has used to be... I think that's a favour?! :D

pr0 10-14-2005 07:44 AM
this is just plain stupid

tony286 10-14-2005 07:48 AM
maybe this is what the Us wants to happen say goodbye to porn.How do we get set up on the euro side if that happened?

TheJimmy 10-14-2005 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRL
...
More than likely there is another reason and agenda. I'm sure the NSA has all sorts of goodies and monitoring equipment operating on the highest root levels of the Net, that even goes beyond Echelon and the US doesn't want anyone else to be able to do that or know about it.
I have to totally agree on that one...

:/

steffie 10-14-2005 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony404
maybe this is what the Us wants to happen say goodbye to porn.How do we get set up on the euro side if that happened?
Its not that hard to setup an account overseas, your biggest problem is going to be how to update it.. Remember if the Internet splits you won't see it. Like you can't see Chinese Websites because they are blocked from your view.

NickPapageorgio 10-14-2005 08:23 AM
"The US argues that many of the states demanding a more open internet are no fans of freedom of expression."

I especially found this statement ironic. Pot...meet kettle...

tony286 10-14-2005 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio
"The US argues that many of the states demanding a more open internet are no fans of freedom of expression."

I especially found this statement ironic. Pot...meet kettle...
fuckin A

Webby 10-14-2005 01:40 PM
Can't see it happening despite the mumblings of an EU Commission. They also, don't "own" the net tho they may have more "seats at screens" than anyone.

Sure, the EU has a point up to a level.. eg. why the fuck is ICANN still a sub-contrator for the US govt? A DNS authority "should" be isolated from any govts - including the EU.

Who knows if it is related to NSA/Echelon. The EU used to split costs with the US on other areas where satellite comms were used, but had reason to distrust this cosy relationship and have been going their own route for a few years now.

Another more public aspect is taxation on net revenue - the EU loves to collect taxes as much as the US and they are slowly adopting the concept of "control" which is now widespread in the US. (Is that not what any group of people/nations try do when they form themselves into a cohesive unit? :winkwink: )

directfiesta 10-14-2005 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rui
So you are saying the USA is unlike United Nations (and what you clam) not corrupt and incompetent?....ohh man :1orglaugh
Yep, KRL is looking for his USA flag to wave a bit .... :1orglaugh

directfiesta 10-14-2005 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroPornTour
Just look at canada for an example. It is sooo fucking controlled by the United States that when an american farts a canadian says "excuse me."
lol... For the past few years, the answer was more like :321GFY

BlueQuartz 10-14-2005 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gretta von Pissflaps
If you don't like our internet get the fuck off you bitches. We built it we will run it.

what an american fuckwit you are

Screaming 10-14-2005 02:39 PM
umm well i guess it is a good thing

EroticySteve 10-14-2005 02:55 PM
My thoughts.... Unlikely.

NoWhErE 10-14-2005 03:00 PM
Let the Net Wars begin...

watch as nations "bomb" other countries through the net... or maybe EMP bombs? :O

directfiesta 10-14-2005 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoWhErE
Let the Net Wars begin...

watch as nations "bomb" other countries through the net... or maybe EMP bombs? :O
I hold from good sources ( CIA ) that the European internet as WMD's ... and they abuse their surfers !!!!!



WMD: Wires of Mass Dimension

RuthB 10-14-2005 03:18 PM
Even if they try to go ahead with it, the EU is made up of a bunch of individual countries, and I'm pretty sure each country will stand up and say 'erm, excuse me we WANT to be able to access US sites'

I mean, do you think for one second that the many democratic European Countries would stand for this? I seriously doubt it. :2 cents:

woj 10-14-2005 05:11 PM
Not going to happen, they are bluffing, they will probably lose more from doing that, than the US will....

Rochard 10-14-2005 05:56 PM
I wonder what Al Gore thinks of this.

Webby 10-14-2005 06:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by woj
Not going to happen, they are bluffing, they will probably lose more from doing that, than the US will....
Not likely they are bluffing... unless that comment was from some idiot with a loose mouth casually muttering. They never "bluffed" on much else so far.

If the EU starts that shit.. and they feel they have an alleged cause to do so, (ie why is ICANN still a subcontractor of the US govt and assumes upon itself factors that influence other nations?), the chances are all other nations will be supporting this - simply because they are not currently being represented. It's basically an "OK, let's play, but not while you insist hogging the ball 100% of the time".

Only nation to lose is the US - they rest can only gain. A graceful mediation may be relevant where nobody has to "lose" anything and we can all have peace and earn some money without more pathetic diversions.

nico-t 10-14-2005 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaori
yup, it'll split and become a porn free, religious wasteland ruled over by the Bush family...
sounds like a fun place!
exactly :1orglaugh
too many ignorant fucking "patriots" around here. Patriot is another word for FaGGOT ASS SHEEP!

nico-t 10-14-2005 06:16 PM
when it splits up i will be fighting front line to let the fat religious hypocritic americans get the good porn by europeans again by the way

pocketkangaroo 10-14-2005 06:25 PM
This is a bluff and probably said by some idiot who doesn't have a clue.

First, this would kill businesses and hurt everyone's economy. As much as other countries want control of the net, they simply have no choice. This may not be what you want to hear, but it's the truth. Everyone will suffer.

As for who I think should control it, the US. It's not really a pride thing or the fact I'm American. We built it and we should be able to choose who controls it. It would be like building a really popular site and having someone come by and say "Well we should allow some other people to control it to be fair".

Either way, who gives a shit who controls it?

Adult Site Traffic 10-14-2005 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroPornTour
The United Nations is nothing more than an apology by the United States for dropping "the bomb" on Japan. It is a fucking joke at best and the wrost a political tool used by america to give the appearance of "give-a-shitness" to the problems on the international scene.

I'm certain there is some corruption in it. All political organizations do.
But I'm more certain that it is incompetent to the point of being a bad joke.

More would get done and there would be great stability in the world if we just got rid of the damn organization.

For example the George Bush would have either ordered the military out of Iraq by now. Or he would have used an extreme amount of force to fix the problem.


In the former,

He has already made the United States look like criminal nation for invading the place when he should have left well enough alone. He would have said, "well we fucked this up." Lets pull out. Instead he is obligated to stay and fix it.

In the later,

Now that he fucked himself and screwed the Iraqis to the wall. He can't go for a quick resolution by force to just get it over-with. IE: Well we opend up a can of worms lets just do what it takes to fix it. Instead he now has to worry about appearing to be too militant or like the man he claims to have removed.

Instead more people die.. Insurgents now use it for a "training camp." And George W."ithout a doubt an Idiot" Bush continues to make one long sea of moronic fuck ups after another. Because he can't just wash his hands of it.



Without a fucking doubt.

Not only that.. But it gives the United States a measure of control over the economies of other nations that have come to depend on the net. There are two ways to seize control of another country. The first is by force and the second is by controling their economy.

Just look at canada for an example. It is sooo fucking controlled by the United States that when an american farts a canadian says "excuse me."
OMG, you're the smartest fucker I've seen post on this topic in a long time.

I mean that. You really have a clue.

.

directfiesta 10-14-2005 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
This is a bluff and probably said by some idiot who doesn't have a clue.

First, this would kill businesses and hurt everyone's economy. As much as other countries want control of the net, they simply have no choice. This may not be what you want to hear, but it's the truth. Everyone will suffer.

As for who I think should control it, the US. It's not really a pride thing or the fact I'm American. We built it and we should be able to choose who controls it. It would be like building a really popular site and having someone come by and say "Well we should allow some other people to control it to be fair".

Either way, who gives a shit who controls it?
LOL...


PS; there are more idiots in the USA than anywhere else... so odds are that the idiot is beside you ... or ...

You know what IS the internet or WEB ???? So the US owns fiber in Europe???

:1orglaugh

Webby 10-14-2005 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
This is a bluff and probably said by some idiot who doesn't have a clue.

First, this would kill businesses and hurt everyone's economy. As much as other countries want control of the net, they simply have no choice. This may not be what you want to hear, but it's the truth. Everyone will suffer.

As for who I think should control it, the US. It's not really a pride thing or the fact I'm American. We built it and we should be able to choose who controls it. It would be like building a really popular site and having someone come by and say "Well we should allow some other people to control it to be fair".

Either way, who gives a shit who controls it?
No comparison to any site. If the US wants to have the benefits of trading internationally and use other countries as an arm via the net - they obviously have to agree on "something". It's that simple. The choice, (not that it's even on the cards), is that other countries group and form their own DNS authority - not exactly difficult.

Adult Site Traffic 10-14-2005 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markit
a split would be a really bad thing for us
HOW can you technologically even do this?

Isn't that like splitting a cyber nervous system? What, do you physically cut the cables? That's fucking impossible. The world would crash without a doubt.

.

Sarah_Jayne 10-14-2005 06:37 PM
Well, last I checked Tim Berners-Lee is British. So, the WWW side of things can stay with us and people can go back to life before the web.


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