War Is Not The Answer?? Than What Is?
 

Have you ever seen people with bumper stickers that say "War Is Not The Answer?" Everytime I see one, I think, ok I can't say that I agree with the war, but if war isn't the answer than what is??? All these people with their bumper stickers, seem to know what that answer is, and I personally would like to know exactly what that answer entails........

Besides I don't ever recall anyone really even asking a question, and even if the question was "how do we stop terrorism?" That still wouldn't jusitfy the answer being given, since we all know the war in Iraq isn't about terrorism..........

Maybe I'm just rambling on, but this has been bugging me for some time now, and I had to get it out.......

the answer is the drug ecstacy..... we just need to find a way to get everyone in the world on esctacy... can you imagine people ecstacy trying to fight? they would just end up hugging and calling eachother best friends

there you have it.. the "answer"

To stop terrorism we must stop the hate... spreading war and terror isn't the right way to do it . The problem was created at first by war, then it turned into terrorism.

So how do we stop hate?

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Do you remember what the crusades were abt?

All we need is love ~ The Beatles

I like that idea, unfortunately I don't know how well it would work, it sure as hell would be a fun time though :thumbsup

If you feel that they know what the answer is, then ask them.

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if more white guys fuck black girls, and more black guys fuck white girls, and more Christians fuck more Muslims girls and........

well, then we'll all stop hating each other

that notion assumes that the hitlers of husseins of the world were caused by someone else. why isn't it possible to accept that sociopaths, psychopaths and megalomaniacal people can often rally people hehind their own twisted vision and views and have to be dealt with by force.

a bully starts a fight with you on the playground... what causes immediate remedy to the situation - beating the shit out of him, or trying to talk and have a group hug?

blowjobs from interns?

bush the butcher said that shit at the same time he was tellin us about all those massive stockpiles of WMD's - rememebr that BULLSHIT?!

what gives you the INSANE idea that the war in Iraq is stopping terrorism

as long as america is in Iraq there will be NO end to the line of lunatics waiting to strap up and detonate - believe it

terrorism existed long before iraq. it existed long before the US existed. someone willl always feel "wronged" or find some rationalization to do anything possible to fight for what they believe in, no matter how twisted it may be.

Not sure if you're asking me, but I don't believe I EVER once said in this thread that I think the war in Iraq is stopping terrorism ( I actually said the exact opposite) I was simply saying that, that was probably what those people with the bumpber stickers were thinking the question was.......

We must all get so fat that we will not be able to fight. That is the answer.

a giant hippy jam band music festival?

Well... its pretty simple! War is just not the answer!
What is, I dont know...



I should get one of those sticks! :1orglaugh

The answer is notwar.

I understand that war may not be the answer, however the bumper sticker is implying that there is an answer, by saying war isn't it, when I really don't think there is an answer at all......

Suicide is the answer.

PEACE is the answer!
Everyone should be sovereign and free to do whatever he wants to do... if he's doing something against the free will of another - isolate him... ban him... imprison him... not blowing his whole country away...
But this making of terrorism and then making the war against it from the very same people is just OUTRAGEOUS!!!
Can you imagine if those money that are going for the military and for their super hi-tech military technologies (which are our taxes), are invested in something else...
let's say:
computers... now we all would have been on Photon Computers with a Teraherz CPU's and Pentabytes of RAM
or medicine - we would have cures for anything by now...
or transport - we would have been on a super safe electric cars long time ago
it's just the most resources are going for wars, this is fucking stupid, since almost no one of the people wants wars... the only people that wants it is the people that profit from it...

war is not the answer, it's just business of those greedy bastards!

and it's we that have to stop them! so call your senator, tell him that he suck and that you don't want wars! :P

If I was driving around with a bumper sticker that said, "KingAsher is NOT GOD. "

Everyone could be certain that the bumper sticker is 100% true without ever knowing who god really is or if he/she really exists.

What if your president was running around spending over a hundred billion dollars trying to convince everyone that KingAsher is GOD ????

IF you were certain that KingAsher is NOT God, would you start questioning the logic of the person going around saying, "KingAsher is NOT GOD" just because that same person couldn't tell you Who God really is or if a God even exists? See it is simple logic.

Maybe your time would be better spent if you would just decide to try and question the logic of your president and his spreading of the untruth at a cost of over 100 billion rather than requiring me to tell you who/what god really is or if he/she exists???

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I have a simple example:

I can drive around with a bumper sticker that reads, "KingAsher is not 3 years old," without knowing how old you really are, or implying that I know how old you really are.

In fact, everyone could agree that the statement on my bumper sticker is true without having any idea of your actual (true) age.

The only thing the bumper sticker is saying is that you are not 3 years old. Maybe I know how old you really are, and maybe I don't.


Maybe I know what the answer is, other than war, maybe I don't. It makes no difference. The message is that I know that you are not 3 years old and the other message is that I know war is not the answer. No more, no less.

so it is enough just to point out the obvious and not offer a solution.

War is just another way for the elite to make billions of dollars on the backs of the suckers that think wars are anything else but for making money.

War is the answer when there is no negotiation.

See...

For those that believe war is not the answer are to pussy to stand up for what they believe in. War is not the answer is a "By line" in a call for peace however when there is no negotiation war is the only answer.

Americans for example will wonder what our rights are soon and there will be NO negotiating what our rights are. THe right to video people fucking, the right to our own homes, the right to our own privacy is being infringed on by a government that supoposedly p[romises us these freedoms. There for War is the only answer when no negotiation about the matter is performed.

War is for those with nothing to loose.
There is no answer for war, war is supposedly the last resort till the "call for war" is put in place by those that do not wish to negotiate.

Unfortunatly war in the case of the USA VS Iraq, the call for war was done liberally by none other than a conservative.

LOL:)

Another fun example to answer this question:


Imagine you and your friends are in a car driving to a party at night with your headlights off. The driver is President Bush and you happen to be in the backseat.

All you know is that if you turn right, you will go off a cliff and everyone will die a fiery death. You don't know which direction you should turn to get to the party, but you know for a fact that you will all die if you turn right.

What do you do when Bush puts his blinker on to turn right?

Do you say anything to anyone?

What do you do when Bush starts to turn right?

Do you do anything?

What do you do when Bush floors it and turns the wheel sharp right aiming you directly for the cliff?


Do you sit quietly, not saying anything (because you don't know exactly which way to turn to get to the party)???

Do you try to tell your friends that you shouldn't turn right? Do you just try and stop that fucker (any way you can) from turning and going to the right???

Do you just sit quietly and die?

If you do a full accounting, the US has probably spent a trillion dollars in the war on terror. Not just money spent on the invasions, but also on the security enhancements. Now, Halibuton has got a huge chunk of that, so Bush and Co won't think of that as cost. More a benefit.

But the US taxpayer is taking it up the ass. And the deficit is huge, so the future generations can enjoy getting fucked as well.

Now, Sept 11 was a bitch. Something like 3,500 people died, and a couple of towers were destoyed. And the Pentagon had a small missle size hole punched into it.

Almost 3,000 military personnel have died in Iraq and Afghanistan, and about 20,000 more are missing significant body parts.

Iraq is in chaos, as is Afghanistan.

What do you have to show for the trillion, and all the deaths and maimings?

bin Laden is still at large.

Perhaps *not* responding to Sept 11, would have been the more profitable decision.

"chaos is the rule of nature - order is the dream of man"

A better solution would have been to spend the all that money responding to Sept 11 and the terrorism threat!!!!

Iraq had/has nothing to do with 9/11 or the terrorism threat.

I submit that Iraq is now the center of the terrorism movement.

This is a direct result of the US invasion and the removal of Hussain. Hussain had no use for the the Islamic fundies, and terrorized them! He may have funded some of the Palestinien freedom fighters, but that did not touch the US.

Since the US established chaos in Iraq, al Quida has moved in. Recruiting, training... bin Laden clearly is winning the battle with Bush.

this whole "war is not the answer" discussion is completely retarded. its the product of a dream that totally ignores basic human behavior, millions of years of evolution and even reality.

the idea that "war is not the answer" - requires that there be only one way to percieve and interpret the world around us and that that singular view can be universally shared by all. unless you think that you can somehow turn the planet into robots running on a common set of instructions, there will always be suspicion, paranoia, insecurity, pain, suffering, inequality, hate, fear and a host of a near infinite number of reasons that people will believe those conditions exist, who's to blame and how those problems can be solved.... if you can agree that those things will always exist, then you have to understand that someone is always going to be willing to take things as far as possible or exploit the situation.

it also assumes that sociopathic, psychopathic megalomaniacs are just going to stop being what they are, stop trying to do anything to get power, stop all thier insanity in rallying people behind insane ideas - whether it is the idea that jews run the earth or that a spaceship is coming in the tale of the hale bop comet to save a select group of people from certain death.

our most basic needs as living organisms, or most basic, innate and genetically programmed behaviors will always prevail - being to do everything to ensure our own safety and security, to do everything to ensure our genes are passed on. would you give your last bit of food to others counting on others to feed you when you have nothing? of course not. we are not programmed to behave that way. we are programmed to get agressive and take more food by force if necessary to protect ourselves and our own.

we are nothing more than useless bacteria on a little blue rock in the middle of an impossibly huge universe, devoting our time to convincing ourselves that our lives have purpose and meaning.... it doesn't. we are all just pawns carrying out natures plan of continuous growth and rejuvination through continuous death and destruction.






and paul... now that you know where the center of terrorism is.... please devote your time to finding the center of decent photography.
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How did you become some stupid? You have to learn to deal with facts man. We are never going to breed everyone into one race and one religion, it just will never ever happen.

sounds logical coming from a nazi

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What I want to know is....

what is the question?

Just give war a chance!

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