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sperbonzo 10-05-2005 12:39 PM

VERY Intense story from Katrina volunteer.
 
This is a pretty intense read. I have deleted his contact info, but I can tell you that this is actually what happened to this guy when he went to volunteer in Houston to help.

I'm sure that it will stir up a reaction both ways....
__________________________________________________ ______________
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: Another look at the evacuees from New Orleans

Another look at the evacuees from New Orleans I thought I might inform
the few friends I have on my recent traumatic experience. I am going to
tell it straight, blunt, raw, and I don't give a damn. Long read, I know
but please do read!!!


I went to volunteer on Saturday at the George R. Brown Houston Convention
Center for two reasons.

A: I wanted to help people get a warm fuzzy feeling.
B: Curiosity.

I've been watching the news lately and have seen scenes that have made me
want to vomit. And no, it wasn't dead bodies, the city under water, or
the sludge everywhere. It was PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR. The people on TV (99%
being Black) where DEMANDING help. They were not asking nicely but
demanding as if society owed these people something. Well, the honest
truth is WE DON'T.

Help should be asked for in a kind manner and then appreciated. This is
not what the press (FOX in particular) was howling, what I was seeing was
a group of people who are yelling, demanding, looting, killing, raping,
and SHOOTING back at the demanded help!!!!! So I'm thinking this can't
possibly be true, can it???? So I decided to submit to the DEMAND for
help out of SHOCK. I couldn't believe this to be true of the majority of
the people who are the weakest of society. So I went to volunteer and
help folks out and see the truth. So I will tell the following story and
you decide:

I arrived at the astrodome only to find out that there are too many
volunteers and that volunteers where needed at the George R. Brown
Convention Center. As I was walking up to the Convention Center I noticed
a line of cars that wrapped around blocks filled with donations. These
where ordinary Houstonians coming with truckloads and trunks full of
water, diapers, clothes, blankets, food, all types of good stuff. And
lots of it was NEW. I felt that warm fuzzy while helping unload these
vehicles of these wonderful human beings. I then went inside the building
and noticed approximately 100,000 sq. ft. of goodies all organized and
ready for the people in need. I signed up, received a name badge and was
on my merry way excited to be useful.

I toured the place to get familiar with my surrounding; the entire place
is probably around 2 two million sq. ft. I noticed rows as far as the eye
can see of mattresses, not cots, BLOW UP MATTRESSES!!! All of which had
nice pillows and plenty of blankets. Two to three bottles of water lay on
every bed.

These full size to queen size beds, by the way, where comfortable, I laid
on one to see for myself. I went to look at the medical area. I couldn't
believe what my eyes were seeing!!! A makeshift hospital created in 24
hours!!! It was unbelievable, they even had a pharmacy. I also noticed
that they created showers, which would also have hot water. I went
upstairs to the third floor to find a HUGE cafeteria created in under 24
hours!

Rows of tables, chairs and food everywhere - enough to feed an army! I'm
not talking about crap food either. They had Jason's deli food, apples,
oranges, coke, diet coke, lemonade, orange juice, cookies, all types of
chips and sandwiches. All the beverages by the way were put on ice and
chilled!!!! In a matter of about 24 hours or less an entire mini-city
was erected by volunteers for the poor evacuees. This was not your
rundown crap shelter, it was BUM HEAVEN.

So that was the layout: great food, comfy beds, clean showers, free
Medical help. By the way there was a library, and a theatre room I forgot
to mention. Great stuff right????

Well, here is what happened on my journey - I started by handing out COLD
water bottles to evacuees as they got off the bus. Many would take them
and only 20% or less said thank you. Lots of them would shake their heads
and ask for sodas! So this went on for about 20-30 minutes until I was
sick of being an unappreciated servant. I figured certainly these folks
would appreciate some food!!! So I went upstairs to serve these beloved
evacuees some GOOD food that I wish I could have at the moment!

The following statements are graphic, truthful, and discuss UNRATIONAL
behavior:

Evacuees came slowly to receive this mountain of food that is worth
serving to a king! I tell them that we have 2 types of great deli
sandwiches to choose from - ham and turkey. Many look at the food in
disgust and DEMAND burgers, pizza, and even McDonalds!!!! Jason's deli is
better than McDonalds!!!! Only 1 out of ten people who took something
would say "thank you" the rest took items as if it was their God give
right to be served without a shred of appreciation!!! They would ask for
Beer and liquor. They complained that we didn't have good enough food.
They refused food and laughed at us. They treated us volunteers as if we
where SLAVES. No, not all of them of course, but 70% did!!!!!! food
without any comment and the other 70% had some disgusting comment to say.
Some had the nerve to laugh at us. And when I snapped back at them 20%
where appreciative, 10% took the food without any comment and the other
70% had some disgusting comment to say. Some had the nerve to laugh at
us. And when I snapped back at them for being mean, they would curse at
me!!! Needless to say I was in utter shock

They would eat their food and leave their mess on the table. Some would
pick up their stuff but most would leave it for the volunteers to pick
up. I left that real quick to go down and help set up some more beds. I
saw many young ladies carrying mattresses and I helped for a while. Then
I realized that there where hundreds of able bodied young men who could
help!! I asked a group of young evacuees in their teens and early
twenties to help. I got cursed at for asking them to help!!! One said "We
just lost our fucking homes and you want us to work!!" The next said "Ya
Cracker, you got a home, we don't" I looked at them in disbelief. Here
are women walking by carrying THEIR BEDS and they can't lift a finger and
help themselves!!

WHY SHOULD I HELP PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES!!!!

I waved them off and turned away and was laughed at and more "white boy
jokes" where made at me. I felt no need to waste my breath on a bunch of
pitiful losers. I went to a nearby restroom where I noticed a man
shaving. I used the restroom, washed my hands and saw this man throw his
razor towards the trash can...he missed. He walked out leaving his
disgusting razor on the floor for some other "cracker" to pick up. Even
the little kids where demanding. I saw only ONE white family and only TWO
Hispanic families. The rest where blacks. 20% to 30% decent blacks. and
70% LOSERS!!!!

I would call them N*****S, but the actual definition of a n*****r is one
who is ignorant. These people were not ignorant. they where ARROGANT
ASSHOLES. The majority of which are thugs and lifetime lazy ass welfare
recipients. We are inviting the lowest of the low to Houston. And like
idiots we are serving the people who will soon steal our cars, rape,
murder, and destroy our city while stealing from our pockets on a daily
basis through the welfare checks they take. We will fund our own
destruction. By "US" I don't mean a specific race, I mean the people who
work hard, work smart, have values and morals. Only people who want to
help themselves should be helped, the others should be allowed to destroy
themselves.

I do not want to work hard, give the government close to half the money I
earn so they can turn and give it to a bunch of losers. I don't believe
in being poor for life. My family immigrated here. We came here poor, and
now thank God, and due to HARD WORK we are doing fine. If immigrants, who
come here, don't know the language, they can learn it, work hard and
become successful... WHY CAN'T THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMEGROWN DO IT!!! If
we continue to reward these losers then we will soon destroy our great
country.

I just witnessed selfish, arrogant, unappreciative behavior by the very
people who need help the most. Now these same people who cursed me,
refused my cities generosity, who refuse to help themselves are DEMANDING
handouts on their own terms!!!!!!! They prance around as if they are owed
something, and when they do receive a handout, they say it's not good
enough! Well, you know what - these types of people can go to hell for
all I care!


>>>> Richard L. Johnston, M.D.
>>>> University of Mississippi Medical Center

CIVMatt 10-05-2005 12:46 PM

We've already forgotten about this, we on the Jessica Simpson story now

sperbonzo 10-05-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt
We've already forgotten about this, we on the Jessica Simpson story now

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

iwantchixx 10-05-2005 01:01 PM

I think this dude is putting it mildly.

And people wonder why people are so racist.... Welll HEEELLLLLOOOOO

sperbonzo 10-05-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
I think this dude is putting it mildly.

And people wonder why people are so racist.... Welll HEEELLLLLOOOOO

I have to admit, when he sent me the email.... it really made my blood start to boil.....

poppet 10-05-2005 01:30 PM

i'd read this already and it pissed me off more than i can openly say.

Hi Sunshine. :)

sperbonzo 10-05-2005 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poppet
i'd read this already and it pissed me off more than i can openly say.

Hi Sunshine. :)

Hiya Poppet....

So this already has made it around the internet to you? LMAO! That's both hilarious AND scary! :1orglaugh :uhoh

robfantasy 10-05-2005 01:34 PM

exactly (8char)

Scott McD 10-05-2005 01:35 PM

Yep, donate all you can and help those poor people...




:arcadefre

poppet 10-05-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
Hiya Poppet....

So this already has made it around the internet to you? LMAO! That's both hilarious AND scary! :1orglaugh :uhoh

:upsidedow

It's a small world after all.

KRL 10-05-2005 01:38 PM

Excluding the elderly and the truly sick, anyone who stayed knowing that storm was coming had to be either stupid or thinking we'll make out real good off this disaster.

You could see the mess at the superdome as a classic example of how these low ends have no regards for anything including themselves.

I'm tired of supporting a welfare state for losers. Fuck you, get off your asses and work like the rest of us.

Still will help the sick and elderly, but all these able bodied ones can go back to their rat infested ghettos.

sperbonzo 10-05-2005 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
Excluding the elderly and the truly sick, anyone who stayed knowing that storm was coming had to be either stupid or thinking we'll make out real good off this disaster.

You could see the mess at the superdome as a classic example of how these low ends have no regards for anything including themselves.

I'm tired of supporting a welfare state for losers. Fuck you, get off your asses and work like the rest of us.

Still will help the sick and elderly, but all these able bodied ones can go back to their rat infested ghettos.

I think that the important thing here is that you're not bitter about it. :winkwink:

poppet 10-05-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
I think that the important thing here is that you're not bitter about it. :winkwink:

Exactly. :1orglaugh

Webby 10-05-2005 01:44 PM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh man.. people watching can be damned funny! :winkwink:

red_meat 10-05-2005 01:58 PM

ohhhh my goodness what an experience you had.

thank goodness they were'nt rednecks who stood on top of their trailers for 5 days!

sperbonzo 10-05-2005 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_meat
ohhhh my goodness what an experience you had.

thank goodness they were'nt rednecks who stood on top of their trailers for 5 days!

It wasn't my experience.... read more closely please. :)

gornyhuy 10-05-2005 02:07 PM

Its a culture of entitlement... its so fucked up.

sperbonzo 10-05-2005 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy
Its a culture of entitlement... its so fucked up.

I volunteer with the local red cross to hand out water and ice when we have hurricaines in Florida, and it's an interesting experience seeing how different people react. It isn't divided along the lines of rich and poor either... :2 cents:

adultchica 10-05-2005 04:43 PM

There's a whole bunch of evacuees in my area. Instead of giving my husband a job when he has more experience, they are giving them to the evacuees. OK fine, I can almost deal with that. But yes they act as though they should get the job over the more experienced people. There are over 200,000 evacuees living in Houston area right now and they are getting jobs over more qualified people. Not to say........that they aren't grateful. SOme of them are. SOme of them expect it. I am not saying that the evacuees don't deserve the help, and some of them are VERY appreciative. There are a lot of kids in the school here that were evacuees and the parents seem appreciative and just happy to have a place to live/ place for their kids to go to school. Some of them are just really stressed out and I can stand a snap or two in that situation I'd be a li'l bitchy too.. It's just a matter of the person/individual. It's a mixture of good and bad people just like everywhere else in society. I'd say it's 50% acting entitled and arrogant, and the other half are appreciative and good people

But yes, a lot of them are unappreciative and are just going to be doing what they were doing in N.O. Living in the ghetto taking welfare checks and not working. But that applies to the white people too. A lot of them are lazy and acting a fool too, just like the black folks. I've met them, I've seen them, and it's a mixture. It's going to be a LARGER population in Houston of lazy and hand-out gropers, as well as a LARGER population of hard working people. Just gotta take the good with the bad.

And yes,

sperbonzo 10-06-2005 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchica
There's a whole bunch of evacuees in my area. Instead of giving my husband a job when he has more experience, they are giving them to the evacuees. OK fine, I can almost deal with that. But yes they act as though they should get the job over the more experienced people. There are over 200,000 evacuees living in Houston area right now and they are getting jobs over more qualified people. Not to say........that they aren't grateful. SOme of them are. SOme of them expect it. I am not saying that the evacuees don't deserve the help, and some of them are VERY appreciative. There are a lot of kids in the school here that were evacuees and the parents seem appreciative and just happy to have a place to live/ place for their kids to go to school. Some of them are just really stressed out and I can stand a snap or two in that situation I'd be a li'l bitchy too.. It's just a matter of the person/individual. It's a mixture of good and bad people just like everywhere else in society. I'd say it's 50% acting entitled and arrogant, and the other half are appreciative and good people

But yes, a lot of them are unappreciative and are just going to be doing what they were doing in N.O. Living in the ghetto taking welfare checks and not working. But that applies to the white people too. A lot of them are lazy and acting a fool too, just like the black folks. I've met them, I've seen them, and it's a mixture. It's going to be a LARGER population in Houston of lazy and hand-out gropers, as well as a LARGER population of hard working people. Just gotta take the good with the bad.

And yes,

That's interesting adultchica. Have you heard any other stories like the one that my friend sent me?

Huggles 10-06-2005 06:44 AM

Just curious,


Is that email real? Where did you first read it? Do you know who that guy is that wrote it?


If you can validate that as being real, I would love to show a few of my friends who whine and whine about the poor treatment blacks got from the Government. I have a friend who was saying that they were only getting 1 "army" meal of beans and water per day, and used a chain letter to validate her claims.

sperbonzo 10-06-2005 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles
Just curious,


Is that email real? Where did you first read it? Do you know who that guy is that wrote it?


If you can validate that as being real, I would love to show a few of my friends who whine and whine about the poor treatment blacks got from the Government. I have a friend who was saying that they were only getting 1 "army" meal of beans and water per day, and used a chain letter to validate her claims.

Send me an email (sig) and I will send you the email with all his contact info.

sperbonzo 10-06-2005 08:00 AM

and actually, that applies to anyone that doesn't think that this letter was real. Send me an email and I will send you the whole letter. (I just won't post it here.)

BV 10-06-2005 08:14 AM

Honestly, I'm not surprized.

Furious_Male 10-06-2005 08:28 AM

Well a lot of these actions can be explained by pure frustration and exhaustion. Such as not saying thank you etc. Many requesting different beverages may have been sitting on there roofs for days drinking water and simply had a taste for a soda or burger. The first person they will lash out at is someone not in there situation being the volunteers.

On the flip side many are simply a product of there environment. They act like this ALL the time not just during a crisis. They didn't have houses to lose to begin with and this is a great opportunity to get something for nothing. I am sure there were plenty of opportunists present.

BVF 10-06-2005 09:42 AM

I don't believe the part about food and water being all over the place at the convention center. But I DO believe the part to where people are demanding handouts.

There was a family here in Ohio that came from N.O. and they were featured in the newspaper...My mother works at the real estate office that offered them a FREE five bedroom house...It was an older home but it was still nice and clean...A woman and her five kids and the grandmother came to look at it and the grandmother said "This is NASTY!" and they asked for something else...they were told there was a two bedroom apartment but with seven people, Section 8 wouldn't pay for it. Don't you know those ignorant bastards STILL asked to go see it?

Then the newspaper wants to do a followup. I hope they tell the paper that those fools thought that they were too good for the house...This shit is unbelievable.

Bill8 10-06-2005 10:09 AM

You DO know that letter is a fake, don't you?

I've seen several articles discussing the fact that it's a fake. I'm too lazy to look them up for you, but it has been debunked.

I don't think they know yet who started it.

Doctor Dre 10-06-2005 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchica
There's a whole bunch of evacuees in my area. Instead of giving my husband a job when he has more experience, they are giving them to the evacuees. OK fine, I can almost deal with that. But yes they act as though they should get the job over the more experienced people. There are over 200,000 evacuees living in Houston area right now and they are getting jobs over more qualified people. Not to say........that they aren't grateful. SOme of them are. SOme of them expect it. I am not saying that the evacuees don't deserve the help, and some of them are VERY appreciative. There are a lot of kids in the school here that were evacuees and the parents seem appreciative and just happy to have a place to live/ place for their kids to go to school. Some of them are just really stressed out and I can stand a snap or two in that situation I'd be a li'l bitchy too.. It's just a matter of the person/individual. It's a mixture of good and bad people just like everywhere else in society. I'd say it's 50% acting entitled and arrogant, and the other half are appreciative and good people

But yes, a lot of them are unappreciative and are just going to be doing what they were doing in N.O. Living in the ghetto taking welfare checks and not working. But that applies to the white people too. A lot of them are lazy and acting a fool too, just like the black folks. I've met them, I've seen them, and it's a mixture. It's going to be a LARGER population in Houston of lazy and hand-out gropers, as well as a LARGER population of hard working people. Just gotta take the good with the bad.

And yes,

So 50 % bad people is normal ? now that's fucked up...

CheeseFrog 10-06-2005 10:25 AM

Repost from over a month ago:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=512227

CheeseFrog 10-06-2005 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill8
You DO know that letter is a fake, don't you?

I've seen several articles discussing the fact that it's a fake. I'm too lazy to look them up for you, but it has been debunked.

I don't think they know yet who started it.

It's not fake.

Rand 10-06-2005 10:27 AM

Fiction according to this site.

Rand 10-06-2005 10:29 AM

But.. undertermined according to Snopes

Bill8 10-06-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
It's not fake.

Believe what you like.

Seeing red staters go to war against each other is okay by me.

I was wrong, it's all true, everything you read on the internets is all true.

Better oil up your weapons. and stock up on some ammo.

I sure am.

CheeseFrog 10-06-2005 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand
Fiction according to this site.

Erm.. I personally know the guy who wrote it. Not fiction. His account is substantiated by friends who actually volunteered down at the Astrodome.

robfantasy 10-06-2005 11:33 AM

the dr just forwarded the email w/ signatures on so it looked like he wrote it

CheeseFrog 10-06-2005 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand
Fiction according to this site.

LOL I just read that link... at the end it gives the "authors" contact info as:

Richard L. Johnston, M.D.
University of Mississippi Medical C enter
3805 Crane Blvd.
Jackson, MS 39216
[Number deleted] (home)
[Number deleted] (cell)
[Number deleted] (pager)

hahah... the guy who wrote it sure isn't a "Johnston". He's Indian... And if he's an M.D., I'm not sure why he drives an Integra LS sedan LOL.. Funny how things get twisted on the internet.

Fred Quimby 10-06-2005 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
LOL I just read that link... at the end it gives the "authors" contact info as:

Richard L. Johnston, M.D.
University of Mississippi Medical C enter
3805 Crane Blvd.
Jackson, MS 39216
[Number deleted] (home)
[Number deleted] (cell)
[Number deleted] (pager)

hahah... the guy who wrote it sure isn't a "Johnston". He's Indian... And if he's an M.D., I'm not sure why he drives an Integra LS sedan LOL.. Funny how things get twisted on the internet.

Update #3: A variant has surfaced which appears to have been "signed" by a Richard L. Johnston, M.D. of Jackson, Mississippi. Dr. Johnston is a real person, but he did not write this text; like thousands of other people, he simply forwarded it to friends and family. Unhappily for him, however, his email program automatically appended his name and address to the message, and copies with that signature have been forwarded, forwarded, and forwarded again, to the point where many people now assume he was the author. He was not.

Fred Quimby 10-06-2005 11:54 AM

Update #2: Maher responded to my email and acknowledged writing the piece on his blog on September 4, 2005. Though he can't account for why his observations differ so much from everyone else's, he stands by their accuracy and denies being a racist, adding that as an immigrant from the Middle East he has been a victim of racism himself. He claims, rather, that the real target of his criticism is people with a "Welfare mentality" who expect the government to take care of them, a description he seems to believe fits the majority of New Orleans evacuees.

Babagirls 10-06-2005 12:00 PM

i read that like a month ago (its what stopped from goin down there with RedCross to volunteer actually.)

pornguy 10-06-2005 12:05 PM

Learn one thing right here, and tight now. There is nothing that you can do to change these people. they raise their kids to hate the " Man " bet they white trash or black trash, they are trash.

If you want to blame someone, blame the parents dating back to the begenning of humanity!


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