E85 Ethanol Fuel- Gas Alternative
 

85% Ethanol 15% unleaded

105 Octane

Anyone have this near them? Anyone use it in their car? How much does this run per gallon?

Sounds awesome, but you'd have to turn every farm in the country over to it if you want to fuel every car.

sounds interesting steve hope we get more info in the thread

Must stink like hell

http://www.e85fuel.com/


No price info. I remember seeing a gasohol station once in VA but kind of laughed at it then, this is about a decade ago.

Apprently according to that website there are lots of Flexible Fuel vehicles already on the road.

Don't you have to have a car that takes that specifically? I didn't think an engine that ran on unleaded could do the E85 unless it had a conversion kit or something. Maybe I'm wrong?

All You Need to Know About Ethanol
 

Believe it or not - I've been looking into Ethanol quite seriously.

If you've got a backyard - forget about buying it, you can make your own legally:

How To Make Your Own Alcohol Fuel
or
Great Fuel Making Site With More Info on Ethanol

That's to make 160 to 200 proof alcohol (which will run in a converted engine).

I can also let ya know how to convert your car:

Converting a Carberator Car to Alcohol

If you have a fuel injected car - here's how the University of Texas converted their truck:
Converting a Fuel Injected Vehicle

I'm personally gonna try to convert my GTO to Ethanol - it's got MORE power than gas (it has a higher octane rating), burns cooler, cleans your engine. The only draw back is slightly higher fuel consumption.

Then again, if you're making it in your backyard - who cares!

If you're looking to buy new almost every Ford has a flexible fuel option for E85 - but I still think pure alcohol is the way to go. :thumbsup

All cars made recently will run on it. If your car is older, there's kits like this abcesso.com

E85 gets about 10% less MPG, but you still save money. The problem is that E85 runs at a higher pressure than gas. Pure ethanol gets the same MPG, but cars are not made for it.

In something related to E85........

The new Bush energy bill that he recently signed does not protect oil companies from lawsuits involving an additive they use, so they've started replacing it with ethanol instead.

This has sharply increased demand for it, and ethanol prices have gone way up.

I think you are going to see more and more convenient roadblocks for widespread use of E85. This is the last thing oil companies want us using.

Find some old man and just buy some moonshine from him. Haha...

This is an interesting idea.

E85 surely has potential to replace petroleum products as fuel for vehicles. There are lots and lots of farmers, on both sides of the Atlantic, who've been relying on government subsidies for years for their crops, since the agricultural sector is an over-producing under-performing industry. With the help of today's technology any farmer can produce more on his fields, so that leaves a lot of room for switching fields to growing something that might actually be in demand.

I'm thinking the same thing. We'll have yuppies going into farming and buying farmland to produce ethanol. It will save the Internal combustion engine, the auto industry and make american's poor farmers Oil Rich. There is nothign I'd want to see more than Bubba and BillyBob get rich creating fuel for America. The corn crop would be the new oil field and greenhouse emissions would be significantly reduced.

I also think that we'll see lots of corporate farmers, more so than now.

Half the cars in Brazil run on enthanol, and most of the petrol vehicles there can use flex fuel engines (they can run on eitheir petrol or ethanol) or any mixture of the two.

They use sugar cane to make the ethanol, which is apparently more efficient than any other crop to make high efficient ethanol. With cheap labor, huge amounts of land, the optimal climate for growing sugar cane year round and huge refineries to process sugar cane into ethanol - they are beginning to export it to countries like China.

Who knows, maybe in 20 years the USA will be invading countries like Brazil for their sugar cane rather than invading countries like Iraq for their oil.

Brazil is selling lots of ethanol to USA

My dad's car runs on ethanol, it's great.

Ethanol costs much more here than in São Paulo... I think here they use all the sugar cane to make cachaça ;)