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newbreed 09-29-2005 01:00 AM

Would you be pissed if your site was down for 3 hours and...
 
...every time you contacted support you were told some bullshit excuse as to why the site is down?

Just curious.

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:01 AM

Oh look at that, my sig banner isn't showing up, my server must still be "disk-checking" itself.

darksoul 09-29-2005 01:02 AM

thats shitty man.
depends on how much you lose.
I see the server is completely down now so only the hoster can fix it
feel free to hit me up if you need help tho.

sonofsam 09-29-2005 01:03 AM

who are you hosting with ?

Midnight_13 09-29-2005 01:03 AM

Yes, I would be pissed.

WiredGuy 09-29-2005 01:04 AM

Disk-checking!? LOL, who are you hosting with!
WG

sandman! 09-29-2005 01:05 AM

shit happenes sometimes tho how often does the 3 hours happen ?
being down 3 hours 2 times a year is not bad switches and routers do break other shit happens 100% uptime is overall just hosting bullshit :)

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
thats shitty man.
depends on how much you lose.
I see the server is completely down now so only the hoster can fix it
feel free to hit me up if you need help tho.


Thanks man. Usually we don't have many problems, and anything that comes up is fixed in a reasonable amount of time. But tonight it's been hours and I have updates and shit to do and it is frustrating to hear excuses. i just want the nox up or a straight answer as to why it's down. Not too much to ask for what we're paying I think.

KMR Stitch 09-29-2005 01:07 AM

My host was down today also =/

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Disk-checking!? LOL, who are you hosting with!
WG


Webair, and again, there are usually no problems like this, but FFS if something is broke or needs replaced how hard is it to just say that instead of feeding me some line about something the server is doing to itself to make it go down.

xlogger 09-29-2005 01:10 AM

3 hours? fuck that! If any of my servers are down for 3 mins i will be on the phone with my host.

darksoul 09-29-2005 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Webair, and again, there are usually no problems like this, but FFS if something is broke or needs replaced how hard is it to just say that instead of feeding me some line about something the server is doing to itself to make it go down.

Don't want to start a webair is good or bad. To each its own.
But some food for taught: every host its a good host when nothing happens.

3 hours its too much for a fsck, so theres definitely something wrong with it.
if it goes down and up, tell them to bring it up and shutdown all services
till they get it sorted.

sandman! 09-29-2005 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Webair, and again, there are usually no problems like this, but FFS if something is broke or needs replaced how hard is it to just say that instead of feeding me some line about something the server is doing to itself to make it go down.


your not the only one with webair problems today i bitched at someone a few hours ago that was on the phone ripping them a new one due to a site being down.

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:18 AM

Frustrating.

darksoul 09-29-2005 01:22 AM

talk to them to give you a straight answer.
if its going to take longer, at least switch dns to another ip, with a low ttl
and setup a temp page, at least you let your members know about the problems
and reduce the number of lost members.

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
talk to them to give you a straight answer.
if its going to take longer, at least switch dns to another ip, with a low ttl
and setup a temp page, at least you let your members know about the problems
and reduce the number of lost members.

Waiting for tech to respond now for another solution. I'll know the extent of pissed off members tomorrow when I get the e-mails from ccbill about people not able to login, etc. :Oh crap

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:30 AM

Powered by SightMax
Welcome to Webair. Addyon will be right with you.
Addyon
Hello, how may I help you?
bill
hey, my site is still down
bill
do you know the root problem?
Addyon
which server?
bill
twist
Addyon
I'll check the status of it
Addyon
hold on
bill
ok cool. I'm almost out of tissues, and losing sales and pissed off members make baby Jesus cry.
bill
plus the sig whores won't get clicks
Addyon
The server has a dead hard drive
Addyon
it didn't pass any tests
bill
you have to be kidding me

sandman! 09-29-2005 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Powered by SightMax
Welcome to Webair. Addyon will be right with you.
Addyon
Hello, how may I help you?
bill
hey, my site is still down
bill
do you know the root problem?
Addyon
which server?
bill
twist
Addyon
I'll check the status of it
Addyon
hold on
bill
ok cool. I'm almost out of tissues, and losing sales and pissed off members make baby Jesus cry.
bill
plus the sig whores won't get clicks
Addyon
The server has a dead hard drive
Addyon
it didn't pass any tests
bill
you have to be kidding me


hs shit i hope they do backup's of your server or you have a decent backup a dead hd is fucked up :(

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:34 AM

:mad: :mad: :mad:

broke 09-29-2005 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Powered by SightMax

...

Addyon
The server has a dead hard drive
Addyon
it didn't pass any tests
bill
you have to be kidding me

OUCH -- Hope they have a backup on site...

Did you get a new ETA, newbreed?

potter 09-29-2005 01:40 AM

That sucks man, 99% of hosts do backups. Hope to see ya back in business!

RevSand 09-29-2005 01:41 AM

Ohh damn.. if you need anything let me know

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:41 AM

There is no backups I was just told. This is going to be a long(er) day than I hoped for.

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke
OUCH -- Hope they have a backup on site...

Did you get a new ETA, newbreed?


No backup, no ETA. Whole thing will have to be rebuilt I think, I am on standby.

the Shemp 09-29-2005 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
There is no backups I was just told. This is going to be a long(er) day than I hoped for.

that really sucks...

baddog 09-29-2005 01:45 AM

Hey, shit does happen, and drives do die. Sorry to hear it happened to be yours this time.

But to answer the question, I hate down time and have owners phone numbers on my cell, and do not hesitate to use it after 5 minutes, no matter the time.

xlogger 09-29-2005 01:46 AM

What does a dead hard drive mean? It crashed and all the info is gone?

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger
What does a dead hard drive mean? It crashed and all the info is gone?

That question has not yet been clarified, they have asked me to hold on, I'm still holding.

the Shemp 09-29-2005 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
That question has not yet been clarified, they have asked me to hold on, I'm still holding.

they must do the ocassional backup of your server, even one a week or two old would be better than nothing...

newbreed 09-29-2005 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
they must do the ocassional backup of your server, even one a week or two old would be better than nothing...

I thought the same thing, and I remember being told that dedicated boxes are on 24 hour backup, but apparently this summer sometime they went to paid backups, and I do not remember getting that memo.

baddog 09-29-2005 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
No backup, no ETA. Whole thing will have to be rebuilt I think, I am on standby.

They don't offer backups?

baddog 09-29-2005 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
I thought the same thing, and I remember being told that dedicated boxes are on 24 hour backup, but apparently this summer sometime they went to paid backups, and I do not remember getting that memo.

oh. bummer

broke 09-29-2005 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
I thought the same thing, and I remember being told that dedicated boxes are on 24 hour backup, but apparently this summer sometime they went to paid backups, and I do not remember getting that memo.

That's a pretty BIG change to make without notification. I know I'd be spending my "waiting" time "shopping". Best of luck, newbreed.

SGS 09-29-2005 02:05 AM

Yes, I feel your pain. :mad:

newbreed 09-29-2005 02:08 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=522023

Affiliates and partners please see this new thread.

pradaboy 09-29-2005 02:58 AM

Hope it's backed up

newbreed 09-29-2005 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy
Hope it's backed up

No online backup, but I do have a local backup as of Tuesday. :Oh crap

body 09-29-2005 02:59 AM

still down?

potter 09-29-2005 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
I thought the same thing, and I remember being told that dedicated boxes are on 24 hour backup, but apparently this summer sometime they went to paid backups, and I do not remember getting that memo.


:Oh crap ..

Jack Frost 09-29-2005 03:15 AM

All the data will still be on the drive. For a drive to fail it probably means the motor has died. A data recovery person could get your data back easy.
I've had to do that at work before.
Also I've saved all the data off a formatted drive. It would be very difficult to completely lose all your data unless the drive has been physically damaged.

Good luck!

Dalai lama 09-29-2005 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
Powered by SightMax
Welcome to Webair. Addyon will be right with you.
Addyon
Hello, how may I help you?
bill
hey, my site is still down
bill
do you know the root problem?
Addyon
which server?
bill
twist
Addyon
I'll check the status of it
Addyon
hold on
bill
ok cool. I'm almost out of tissues, and losing sales and pissed off members make baby Jesus cry.
bill
plus the sig whores won't get clicks
Addyon
The server has a dead hard drive
Addyon
it didn't pass any tests
bill
you have to be kidding me

I'd be pissed :mad:

Pete-KT 09-29-2005 03:40 AM

That fuckin sucks bro, i feel your pain

cool1 09-29-2005 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
I thought the same thing, and I remember being told that dedicated boxes are on 24 hour backup, but apparently this summer sometime they went to paid backups, and I do not remember getting that memo.

Now that really sucks.
I hope everything gets worked out for you

GoNe 09-29-2005 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Frost
All the data will still be on the drive. For a drive to fail it probably means the motor has died. A data recovery person could get your data back easy.

What he said.


I hope you will be up and runing soon and yeah it sucks that webair doesnt have backups included. :/

alex13 09-29-2005 05:04 AM

Well replacing a harddrive in an emergency situation like this should not take longer than an hour. Thats more than enough time to replace the faulty drive and reload a backup or setup a new OS.

For the future i would consider RAID or even better to have a second server in place. Make a incremental backup to it couple of times daily set a low ttl for your dns entries and if something happens you can just switch to the backup server while the main one is being fixed.

Ross 09-29-2005 05:08 AM

All my webair stuff is fine. Sucks for ya Newbreed. Hope its back up ASAP buddy!


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