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StickyGreen 09-12-2005 10:58 PM

Topics explained by so-called "aliens"
 
some of this shit is a pretty interesting read, i'll try to post the ones that you guys on here would care about...

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 10:59 PM

The George Bush plan
 
Anticipating a crashed economy and bewildered populace, the Bush Administration has a plan. To the extent that money can be gen'd up and pumped into the economy, it will be done. This includes lowering interest rates to banks, which has about reached it's limits. This also includes such moves as extending the unemployment insurance time period, so that those unemployed can get checks for an extended period of time. But what will occur when many companies go out of business, and the unemployed reach huge numbers, and bankruptcies are clogging the courts? During the Great Depression, most banks failed but not all collapsed, as everyone pretended not to notice the failures. Likewise, bankruptcies were rampant, but why collect a farm or house or business if you cannot sell it? The banks ignored the bankruptcy and failure to pay, the government ignored the essential failure of the bank, and later all pulled up and moved on. In like manner, a long forgiveness and period of ignoring non-payment or insolvency may emerge. During the Great Depression, migration of the homeless seeking work occurred, with many given work that was paid for by a place to stay, shelter, or meals. The barter system, at work.

The Bush Administration is an isolationist, elitist, group, and thus does not think of the man on the street so much as a human being as a pawn. Pawns get moved about, and are not informed or asked their opinion. The Bush Plan on what to do with many idle workers, who are asking intense questions about the state of the world, the condition of the globe, and why everything but the weather and rising seas are in the news, is to treat them like children, and assign them to parents and caretakers. Thus, churches are directed to take over charity efforts, as a source at first of government funds and later no funds but the plan is for the children to go there with their hands out. Thus, unwed mothers among the lower classes are to wed the fathers of their children, as though having this on paper will result in responsible parenting when government services are stopped. This is of course naive, silly, and if anything just giving those who are not providing information and are storing goods for themselves a conscience-salve.

A third maneuver is to gen up a citizen work force, like the Peace Corps but doing their good work locally. In that those who are Service-to-Other minded are already doing work in keeping with their inclinations, what does this accomplish? In that those in the Bush Administration would scarcely care to extend effort for the common man, unless ordered to do so, they are cannot imagine anyone in the populace doing this unless someone was coerced into the role. Thus, in the midst of what they hope will be a long running "War on Terrorism", they hope to find enough volunteers for their domestic Peace Corps who will feel compelled by pressure from employers and church members that they will sign up for service. Thus on the hook, it is the plan of the Bush Administration to say, when the time comes, "Ok, we've got to go into our bunkers now, go look to your local Peace Corp volunteers for help" and ditch out.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:00 PM

Attack on America
 
Yes and no, this is what it seems on the surface - an attack by Bin Laden on the corrupt capitalist country that has led so many attacks on Muslim countries. But this attack would not have occurred unless infighting among the financial giants of the world, the major banks, had not occurred. Infighting was the instigator, and the primary culprit, but this culprit will not be the scapegoat. In the infamous attack on America on September 11, 2001, several unlikely bedfellows crawled into bed with each other, each for their own ends. Thus, where on the surface it seems a repeat of the Bin Laden attack on the World Trade Center in New York City, failed in the past and tried before the world in the courts, this was only using as the bullet a Muslim group that would be immediately suspect and placate most inquiring minds. The gun was held, however, by a rival bank of JP Morgan, who was devastated in the attack.

The Stock Markets and worth of so much paper the banks and wealthy rely upon for their status and control are being artificially maintained at this time, the longer to keep these elite on their high perch. We mentioned in November, 1999 that cooperation between the world's banking giants and governments was in place, toward this end. One means of this artificial support is to put forth losers, so that the general public might win and thus maintain their confidence to continue to play the game that the Stock Markets represent. Key players are to enter the field and take a loss, aborting panic, as this is considered a lesser problem than a full scale panic. Where this plan met with general approval, now that tight times and a worldwide recession has become a reality, there is argument among the players. You go first, no you go first, and these arguments have gotten heated. Many felt the time would never come, so agreement was only in principal, not from the heart. Thus those in the financial field with greater clout, threatened to force lesser participants to be the loser, and dark thoughts crossed many minds.

During the day of the attack, there were three things that stood out from the horror and stunned confusion that goes with any unexpected catastrophe.

The first was the absence of the President from a role of confrontation and comfort. He was hiding, on the run, not seen as in command, and took hours to even muster a presence other than a statement or two repeating the obvious. It was clear to all that the Vice President, remaining in the White House, was running things. The lack of leadership was so apparent that this was mentioned repeatedly by the newscasters.
The second was the repeated mention that such a well planned and executed attack had to have more than the usual terrorist support, had to be supported by or in countries unnamed. Muslim pilots were trained in major aircraft operations, undoubtedly in training simulation settings. Were they referring to Afghanistan, primitive and suffering from drought so severe the people are starving? They were referring to a sophisticated country, with the infrastructure capable of training Muslim pilots on the flight deck of these major commercial aircraft.
The third was that the CIA had been clueless, a trend of late but so complete a blackout had occurred that it seemed beyond belief. Had this occurred in prior terrorist attacks? The terrorists were familiar enough with US airport security and the routines and roles of the staff to be able to successfully commandeer four planes, delivering the payload of three of them into the New York skyline and the Pentagon itself. No only was the CIA in the dark, it seems the intel went in the other direction!
The heads of the US government were too frightened, the attack too well planned and executed, for this to be just a terrorist attack. And JP Morgan affiliates resided on several floors of the World Trade Center and were a casualty of the sudden devastation - executives, records, and confidence of the market and public in dealing with them going out in a flash. The target was the banking systems holding the US and their elite and wealthy above those in Europe, in the arrogant manner Bush and his masters have employed of late. To understand the main target, and the support relationships causing a relative collapse among the wealthy and holdings of the US elite versus others, one needs to know the complex and mostly secret relationships between bonding banks, new issue of stock, loans between banks and governments, agreements with the Fed, and who holds what holdings privately or publicly! JP Morgan was the target, as a bank. The stock they were supporting, via their subsidiaries or associates, will suffer.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:01 PM

Why only the US has agreements with aliens
 
In spite of wild rumor to the contrary, no other governments outside of the United States have an agreement with alien groups.

The US was targeted early by ourselves for several reasons, but primarily because our hybrid program was to be based in the US. The US, as a melting pot, has a broader genetics pool than any other country. Where it has been reported that the US government granted us permission to abduct their citizenry, their permission was not required. The hybrid program is conducted with volunteers, and the US government is not consulted. Period. A secondary reason we desired an alliance with the US government was due to their position of leadership in the world, a position they still hold. The US is the signal democracy, which was assisted in its birth by many aliens in the Service-to-Other responding to The Call, and has more than met the expectations of those who assisted. Both the government and citizenry of the US expect leadership of themselves, and are tolerant and supportive of innovation because of this. The US is head and shoulders above the rest of the world in innovation, bar none. This environment was perceived by ourselves to be the most fruitful for Zeta/human alliances in Service-to- Other activities during the Transformation, and is meeting our expectations in this regard.

Thus, because we and others in the Service-to-Others wished an alliance with the US government, the Roswell incident was staged in order to initiate discussion. And it was because of our desire to contact the US government that those in the Service-to-Self rushed in to do their best to ruin our plans. Activities at Area 51 and Dulce are not our activities, but are the dying remnants of games by the Service-to-Self designed to drive a wedge between ourselves and the US government. They did not succeed, and the games are now in a mopping up phase, closing down. Those in the Service-to-Self have not contacted other governments because there was no party to spoil. It's as simple as that.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:02 PM

The Indestructible Soul
 
What you call a soul is composed of substances, just as your physical body is. These substances are just as complex as the molecules and cell structure your physical body is composed of - in their own way. However, these substances cannot be destroyed by such things as atomic explosions or even entry into a black hole. The soul is durable and indestructible. Souls are born, and evolve and grow, just as in your physical world you find plants and animals springing up from seed, from a single cell. This does not happen haphazardly, and only happens on worlds in 3rd Density. When an entity is incarnate, what you call the soul suffuses with the physical body, spreading throughout all the parts of the physical body.

The existence of the soul, that part of a human remaining after the physical body expires, has been measured as a tiny adjustment in the weight of the dead body, happening at the moment of death in most cases. We say in most cases, as the soul may depart earlier, seeing the trend. For instance, where individuals go Out-Of-Body during trauma, the soul has already left. Nevertheless, there is some small scientific aspect to support the general human perception that they have a soul. In fact, so prevalent is this feeling or belief in humans, that one stating the opposite comes in for some heat. Religions invariably espouse the soul and an afterlife as a reality.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:02 PM

The Universe
 
The vast Universe, which so intrigues man, has mysteries seemingly out of the reach of man. How big is it? Does it have boundaries? Does it go forever, or is it circular? Is it all an illusion? Is it homogeneous throughout? So many questions. Does the Universe have physical boundaries? We do not know, nor are we allowed to know in the density we are in, 4th Density. To us, with our instruments and in our travels, it appears to be boundless. We travel only so much, using home as a base, and limit our travels not because of distance but due to what is known about certain parts of the Universe, which would be poisonous to us. We too use probes, set to take their measures and return. This is the manner by which your Solar System was located, not by us, but by others. If the probe returns with data that indicates an environment that would be poisonous or quickly fatal, we do not, understandably, explore that part of the Universe. Travel in light form, during higher densities, does not carry those risks.

Different sections of the Universe have different compositions. By this we mean the elements are found in different proportions and the resultant chemical reactions that ensue therefore have different characteristics. Some worlds have silicon based life. Some suns emit radiation that is poisonous to us and would be to you also. Those environments contain severe dangers, as silicon based microbes are ones your immune system could not begin to muster a defense against. An analogy we could use is the soil across a terrain. One place is acidic and is covered with moss, another has soil that compacts into rock-like hardness, discouraging probing roots. The variables are many, and any horticulturist will tell you that a wildflower taken from one location could not be expected to grow in another. Just so is the Universe, we have discovered, and the mix of elements that compose the soil in this section of the Universe is our and your niche. Incarnated, we are not allowed, not able, to explore outside this niche.

Beyond some simple statements, we are not at liberty to explain the Universe to humans, as we are restrained by the Rule of Non-Interference and also by our ignorance. For you, it seems that the Universe is limitless, and boundless, and is not an illusion. So be it, as for you that is a reality and in particular the reality which you must live in. It is also the reality which we, the Zetas, must live in, and in truth we do not know that much more about the functioning of the Universe than you do. The Universe holds secrets that we are not allowed to know at this time, at our stage of spiritual growth. These questions must go unanswered, for the time being.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:03 PM

The 12th Planet
 
The term, 12th Planet, is not scientifically exact but relates to the historical and widely read book that Sitchen wrote, titled The 12th Planet. In this book he explains that the ancient visitors from this traveling comet considered the Moon to be a planet, and counted the Sun as the first. The periodic Earth cataclysms caused by the 12th Planet have been in place for eons, since the Earth was cold and without life. As this statement will raise questions in some minds, let us explain. The Earth was cold as the Sun had not yet lit. All this is a matter of astrophysics, and not relevant to the discussion at hand. The 12th Planet, or giant comet, assumed its orbit around the Sun due to gravitational and motion issues, which were at play coming out of what some Earthlings refer to as the big bang. This was in fact only a little bang, a local affair, however.

The orbit of the 12th Planet is long and narrow. This is not dependent on gravitational and orbital matters within your Solar System, but on a larger scheme, which causes the trip back into your Solar System to be but a minor part of the itinerary. Why does the 12th Planet swing so far away from your Solar System, and why bother to return, having done so?

There is a balance between the attraction of your Sun and another, unseen by you but nevertheless present and in force. The 12th Planet travels interminably between these two forces, not able to settle on an orbit around just one because of the momentum and path it originally took. It is caught. The path of the 12th Planet is such that it spends most of its life out in dark space, slowly moving from one giant tug to another. As it approaches one of these giants, your Sun being one, it picks up speed, and reaches a maximum speed as it passes the attraction. Having passed, it now has double the gravitational attraction on one side, and quickly switches back in the other direction, zooming just as rapidly much along the path it just took. Out in space again, caught between the two giants that dominate its life, it settles down to a sedate few thousand years, only to zip around the Sun's counterpart in a like manner and head back toward your Solar System.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:04 PM

Earth Transformation
 
What is the Transformation? The Earth is undergoing a subtle transformation, as the Transformation is now. This Transformation has been progressing for at least this century, and will go for at least a century more. Transformations occur for many reasons. One reason is that the great majority of the entities native to the planet have reached an orientation decision, and are ready to proceed with other lessons, and 3rd Density planets are checked periodically as to their readiness for harvest in this regard. Another reason is administrative, and that is why the Earth is undergoing its Transformation now. The majority of those on Earth have not yet reached their orientation decision, but will be moved to another planet, as the Earth has been designated as a future home for Service-to-Other oriented entities. The coming pole shift will expedite this process simply by the fact that 90% of the populace will die, either during the shift or shortly thereafter.

To qualify for Service-to-Other orientation, an entity must consider others as often as the self. To qualify for Service-to-Self, the entity must focus on the self 95% of the time, almost exclusively. Where it may seem that these individuals would stand out, some very diplomatic and cultured people are of this category. They are able to disguise their self interest in condescension to others. They are able to disguise their self interest as the interests of the other. During 3rd Density, entities must decide their spiritual orientations - Service-to-Self or Service-to-Others. Most, the vast majority, decide the latter on almost all 3rd Density worlds. This decision, or the lesson of 3rd Density as it is called, needs to precede almost all other lessons, as mixing the two spiritual orientations together creates chaos and thus other lessons cannot proceed. Many humans on Earth are choosing the Service-to-Other orientation, and mid-incarnation are thus joining the ranks of the Service-to-Others. This occurred in the past as well.

The world involves an increasing separation, by orientation, as the Transformation proceeds. The mix of Service-to-Other and Service-to-Self, and the proportion of undecided, will not change much as the cataclysms near and times get tough. Where some of the undecided will rise to the challenge and move into the Service-to-Others category, there will be others, operating in the Service-to-Other mode when things are comfortable, who will find their self focus increasing as their insecurities increase. Some, a very few, who are operating in the Service-to-Self mode, will find the troubled times pulling at their hearts, and will move back into the undecided category. A greater number will find their selfish nature accentuating during difficult times, and like those on the Titanic, will push all others aside to save themselves. They will move into the Service-to-Self category. So you see that the numbers will move about a bit, but essentially remain unchanged.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:05 PM

New World Order
 
There is much discussion in the world of UFOlogy and beyond about the New World Order and various establishment elites who want to remain in control during and through troubled times. They are on top now, and want to remain there. They fear social unrest in the extreme. Any alternative to losing their control is acceptable, and the misery of others is the least of their concerns. These elites can be members of a government who enjoy power and influence due to their authority, the wealthy who enjoy an easy life and can generally buy their way out of troubles, corporate heads who are used to the concept that they command, military leaders who can't imagine anyone else in charge, religious leaders who fear to stand alone in the world not clothed in the reverence people cast their way, and any others in a particular position of power, for whatever reason. As being an elitist is an attitude, not all in these categories, of course, are elites. Just what the establishment groups are called, and who the current members are, is not as important as the issues and trends. We are telling you that names can change, and membership can change, but if you know them when you see them, gauging them by their motives and behavior, then you will be well guided.

What is their behavior, and how can their motives be discerned? Essentially, anything that spreads the truth and educates people, allowing them to make their own decisions, is not what the elites desire. Therefore, vehicles like books, telephone connections, open correspondences, and most certainly the Internet give people information freedom, not what the elites desire, but matters like book burning, communications strictures, and censorship show the heavy hand of the elites. Independence is another worry of the elites. Where people can grow and market their own crops, set their own prices, and travel about they are given freedom from repression, not what the elites desire, but where they fear to move else they starve, and are not given travel permits anyway, this shows the heavy hand of the elites. Those attempting to establish the New World Order seek to keep man ignorant, but most importantly they seek to keep man nervous and despairing. They equate to the parent who tells their child that no one else would want them, the better to control the child who fears abandonment. They equate to the husband who tells his wife she is undesirable, the better to control the wife who may be thinking of leaving him. They equate to repressive governments who tell their citizenry that other countries would brutalize them, the better to prevent emigration.

Therefore, watch where these practices crop up, and do not be dissuaded by clever covers for controlling motives. Democracies do not tolerate the methods that the elites wish to use, and provides weapons for pushing back when these repressions are attempted. The vote, the city council, the petition - use these effectively, and be on guard lest your freedoms be taken away piece by piece.

Who are those attempting to establish the New World Order? The banking industry, first and foremost, as finances are such a fragile thing. Finances are built only upon faith. In fact, they have no substance whatsoever. All those high paid salaries - poof! All that chatter about the value of this stock or that, the carefully monitored stock and bond listings, it is all just so much hot air. They are talking about nothing. They fear the populace will wake up to that. One must realize that bankers and stock brokers and bond dealers do not have alternative professions. There are only so many accountants employable, and most work for little pay and under pressure to be exacting. Who needs overpaid hot air bags? What would happen to their world if people stopped thinking that their hard earned savings were safe and secure in their hands? The crash of 1929, for one. Bankers jumping out of windows, as the thought of having to do an honest days work was just to much to bear.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:06 PM

Hybrids
 
The hybrid form is neither human or Zetan. The advantages to humans of being promoted to a hybrid form are many. Briefly, they will be more intelligent and more telepathic. Certain human problems are being screened out - the tendency to become obese; the ability to become enraged beyond all thought of the consequences; the short life span; and the need to consume large quantities of food, requiring gassy periods of digestion and flatulence and frequent defecation. Trust us, we have included the goodies. Your sex life will not be diminished in your future life times. Your ability to dance, feel the rhythm, and feel the sensuous luxury of warm water or silky fabric will not be diminished.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:06 PM

Engineering Techniques
 
Human participants in development of a hybrid species assume that their eggs and sperm are taken so that the desired Zetan genes can be mixed in during conception. Often female participants assume that they have been impregnated via artificial insemination, when in fact they have had the fetus reinserted for a brief gestation period. In the main, mixing the egg and sperm is the process, but several steps are involved.

Prior to combining the male and female strands, the strands are examined for undesirable traits such as heritable diseases. Thus, it is not simply the fastest swimming sperm that becomes daddy, nor the nearest and most available egg that become mommy.
After selecting the human male and female contribution, snipping and replacing occurs. In this process Zeta genetics routinely replace certain human genetics - some human genes are routinely discarded, and some Zeta genes not present at all in humans are inserted.
In some cases genes from an ancestor are used to replace the human genes secured from the male and female donors. Almost invariably these are taken from data banks we maintain, but on rare occasion we are allowed to go back in time to secure a needed sample. This step inserts and accentuates a desirable human trait.
Genetic engineering by arranged marriages has not and will not occur as part of the hybrid program. Our hybrids participate in the hybrid program much as human participants do, by making contributions. At a much later date marriage and the natural offspring will of course be the means that the hybrid race continues, but it is not yet ready to be put on automatic pilot, as you say. The small amount of Zetan genetics that is mixed into the human population, as a result of contactees volunteering to help us gather data or requesting modifications to help them in their work, does not result in hybrid offspring. These genetics are local modifications, affecting the lining of the digestive tract, the brain neurons in a certain part of the brain, or the ability of a gland to produce a slightly different enzyme. These changes do not affect future eggs or sperm that would be produced by the contactee.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:08 PM

Withholding Proof
 
Regarding the issue of the alien presence, and the lack of proof thereof. There is a vast panoply of evidence that far surpasses the evidence required to secure patents at the patent office! There one need not prove the theory upon which the gadget is based, but simply demonstrate that the gadget works. Do not our gadgets work? Do not the traces on radar screens, which those who would debunk hide from the public, demonstrate that our gadgets work?

And what does it matter what humans choose to bunk/debunk, as their actions in these matters, this time around, are as insignificant as the breezes to the tide. The tide is rolling in, and the dams are too flimsy to withstand the steady pressure. The tides in the past ebbed and flowed, without the influence of those who debunk us. When the tide flowed, they would step up their actions, and when the tide ebbed, congratulate themselves. This was as meaningful as the bird on the back of a water buffalo, who congratulates itself when the buffalo walks in the direction desired. This was and is self delusion, and those of deeper intelligence have always known this.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:09 PM

Roswell
 
Roswell is all the rage here in the United States. It is the flag-bearer in the parade of those who march to learn the truth. The facts are well known, and the facts that are known relate almost completely to the truth. This is a true story. What is not well known is that Roswell was not an accident.

At that time, within the United States, many alien groups wanted a dialog with the United States government. We chose the United States because of its leadership in the community of nations. The United States was and is sticking its nose into every activity throughout the globe. We knew we could rely on the United States to be the message bearer for any message the alien groups wished to get out. The United States, as other governments, was not approachable. Individuals who were contacted by the alien groups were treated as though they were infected. They were not listened to. The block in these matters was the human desire to be in control. Therefore, in order to allow the humans in the United States government to be open to our messages, we allowed them to be in control. Several entities within the alien groups trying to contact the United States government volunteered to be of service. They expected to die. The plan was to allow ships to crash, ostensibly at the hands of humans. This maximized the feeling of control the humans would experience, particularly as the front end of any contact was, unfortunately, through the military. Once they felt they could harm us, they were willing to parley.

The rumor that delicate flowers, in shades of white and yellow, were found etched into the impermeable metal on the inside of the crashed ship is true. Were these wall decorations to remind the homesick travelers of flowers in their homeland? Yes. Just as humans decorate their homes with those items that are powerful reminders and trigger emotions, the better to become lost in delicious reverie, just so these travelers carried with them a reminder of their home planet, so far away and, in the case of those setting out to create the Roswell crash, never to be seen again. They sacrificed themselves at Roswell not because they had nothing to lose, but because of what they hoped the Earth would gain.

The recent Roswell movie adheres closely to the facts, but has added material for dramatic effect and omitted other material at the request of the government. For instance, one is led to believe that all the aliens died, yet EBE lived for a time. Your government is telling you these stories based on your reactions, and the reaction to Roswell, the movie, was favorable. More details to follow. The movie presented true facts in what appeared to be a series of letters or symbols etched into the ship's metal frame. Just as you have key phrases that elicit emotion and are often displayed for this reason, the aliens who sacrificed their lives at Roswell had etched such a phrase on their ship. This phrase, a true likeness of which is above, simply stated that though they were a long way from home, that home awaited their return. You have similar phrases - home is where the heart is, and there is no place like home. Where this fact is true, the symbols shown in the movie were not a replica of the symbols found. The producer was not given access to the actual symbols, and just put together combinations that would have some familiarity to people. The producer reasoned that such symbols would then strike a chord in most viewers, and set them to wondering, which it did.

The Roswell movie used dramatic effect in the degree to which Major Marcel showed material to his family, and the cavalier attitude he took toward announcing all this to the public. He knew full well what he had come upon in that field, and the impact informing the public would have. UFO's were not unknown to those at the Roswell base, and the heavy hand suppressing chatter had already been felt. He agonized, and informed his family furtively. The rancher, Mac Brazel, also is shown as having a virtual tea party when taken into custody by the military regarding his mouth. After some blustering, supposedly, he got bought off with a truck. In fact, he was abused extensively, in the many ways that leave no marks, and finally told frankly that he and his family would be killed unless he complied. The truck was less his desire for a bribe than it was the only avenue by which he could get the word out. Why would the military need to buy him off? People appropriately wondered, and came to the correct conclusions.

Were people silenced via death during the Roswell incident? Yes, and more than the public suspects.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:10 PM

Nasa
 
Why does NASA, a supposedly independent organization, cooperate with MJ12 by failing to scrutinize the surface of Mars and the Moon, or at least failing to allow the American public to so scrutinize? NASA is not the same as MJ12. NASA is a separate entity. They of course are influenced by MJ12 who has members within the NASA hierarchy, but they function, just as the Post Office does, as separate from MJ12. But are they not a servant of the taxpayer, supported by American tax dollars as they are?

The myth that government is accountable to the people is disproved daily in the news, and organizations under contract to the government have even less accountability. Think of NASA as you do your neighbor or grocer. They try not to break the law or get caught at it when they do, but beyond that how they lead their lives has nothing to do with you. You, the taxpayer, are to be ignored and manipulated for their comfort and convenience. They worry not about you because you must pay your taxes and they have their hand firmly in the till. With this in mind, why would they lie?

Where NASA may not be accountable to the people, they are accountable to the Pentagon and the dollars it controls. Money talks. MJ12 is dominated by the military, a fact established from its inception. The same top military leaders that dominate MJ12 also dominate the Pentagon and its budget process. End of story.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:10 PM

Government Collapse
 
Consider what constitutes the government of the United States, which we will use as an example, as it is indeed the strongest government, and the first and foremost democracy. This government, by and for the people, is founded by elections. Elections even in the best of times are difficult to pull off. Turnout is frequently low. Counts must be checked and rechecked for accuracy, and computers and the ready hands of volunteers assist in this process. And then there is the pre-election publication of candidates and their views, debates and other such enlightening affairs.

How would all this take place in a world having undergone a cataclysm such as we describe? The existence of electricity will be spotty. Communications will in the main return to what it was in the previous century, by letter or carrier. The concept of legislature even at the county level would be difficult to maintain, much less at the state or federal level. Add into this the fact that the geography will change. Some lands will disappear, others rise from the seas. The poles will align in different parts of the world. What is north? What is south? Maps previously drawn up will be useless. How can the polls be sure who is to vote when the survivors will wander, in search more of others living than anything else.

We are not describing a world where the established government is likely to continue as it was. We are describing a world where new forms of governing will emerge. The type will depend on the nature of the group of people. As we have detailed, there will be an increasing separation of Service-to-Other from Service-to-Self. Those groups oriented to Service-to-Other will not require the same controls that are required today. Rather than the problem of citizens stealing from each other, held in check only by the enforcement of law, these new communities will share. Consideration will be the rule, rather than the rule of law. For those groups oriented increasingly to Service-to-Self, no laws or corps of police would hold the self-serving actions in check. There, the rule of law is supplanted by the rule of the strong.

How will the governments take being so supplanted? Will they attempt to collect taxes, order cooperation, or demand allegiance? Some lone individuals will attempt to do so, perhaps in small bands, but where there is no food, and the citizenry is essentially homeless, these attempts will turn about on the so-called representatives of the people. Where is the government assistance? What does the government anticipate doing for its citizenry? Why, when the government was assuring the populace that they should not be alarmed by the approaching comet, should the populace now give any heed to the so called government? Any attempt to continue federal or state level government will in all likelihood be short lived. On the local level, there may be some continuance, according to the competence of the local government. Leadership will have to be earned.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:12 PM

Most Terrible Day
 
The day of a significant pole shift, such as will occur on this next passage of the 12th Planet, is one no human on Earth will be able to ignore. For most, it will be a most terrible day.

Those who have had no forewarning will be no worse off then those who have heard rumors but been unable to make changes in their life to prepare. In fact, having no forewarning will almost be a blessing for those unable to prepare, as in this way they will not agonize over choices made. Those who have prepared will be in a state of high anxiety, imagining the worst. Regardless of whether a human realizes what is about to happen but has been unable to take themselves to safety, or has no realization, the effect is the same. They wait for what is to come next. As we have described, this waiting can take the form of distractions such as parties or denial such as continuing with the daily routine as though everything were normal, but for most this waiting is a type of breath holding. They are in shock, from the time they realize that the Earth has stopped rotating until the pole shift, they are essentially in shock, for days.
For those along coast lines, the hour when the Earth's crust moves along with the core to its new position is not the time of trauma until the Earth's core and crust stop. It is then that massive tidal waves roll slowly up into the coastal areas, first on one side of a body of water and then, later when the water sloshes back, on the other side. Both tides are equally as devastating. Being on high ground along a coast line is no safety factor if the water has nowhere to go, as the press of water behind the wave head will force the water up when meeting a barrier, so one is flooded anyway. Riding the wave results in being dashed against barriers, and allowing the wave to engulf one is a certain drowning, fortunately a painless death. Thus, those along the coast lines die from tidal waves, almost invariably, if they are not dead already.
For those inland beyond the reach of tidal waves, the earthquakes are devastating. All but the flimsiest of housing is wrenched so violently that it collapses, crushing and trapping those inside. Those inside tents or straw huts will find themselves, along with their housing, jerked sideways, but aside from scrapes and bruises, relatively unharmed. Lying on the ground during this time is in and of itself a protection, as friction along the ground prevents one from being hurled. In the cities, structures collapse, creating the scenario seen after major earthquakes in the extreme, everywhere. The injured die from lack of treatment and the living soon sicken from drinking sewage contaminated water, and with transportation blocked on all sides, starvation soon takes its toll also.
Those living on subducting plates that border the oceans will find themselves covered with a depth of ocean water that they cannot resist. They will surely drown. Those situated where rapid subduction occurs on areas above sea level may themselves on hot earth during the moments following a pole shift when the crust stops moving and the plates in essence slam into each other like a train whose engine suddenly comes to a stop. Here height helps, as the greater the distance from where friction between the crusts is creating heat, the better. The heat can be great enough to melt rock, as witnesses who have survived such terrifying sights attest. Volcanoes, active and inactive, will explode violently, covering the surrounding areas in raining rock and dust and superheating the air so that all life nearby is extinguished in a wink.
Lightning and firestorms from falling walls of flaming petrochemicals, formed during the interaction of gasses with volcanic heat and continuous lightning, cannot be predicted. They can happen world wide, and as with the hurricane force winds are a factor of the atmosphere, not the land mass. Where they are rare, these firestorms are devastating, and burn all beneath the falling wall of flame in a holocaust. The horrified victims have little chance to even realize what is happening before they are engulfed and lose consciousness from lack of oxygen. As with spontaneous human combustion, the victim is unconscious during the burning process. Protection from this rare chance of devastation is best attained by sheltering under a metal roof, which will not burn.
In rural areas survivors find themselves dealing less with the collapse of civilization than with climate changes. At first, stores are eaten until gone, and then real concern about the inability to grow crops sets in. Will the Sun never shine through the clouds? More than any other reason, this is what causes pole shift survivors to wander - they are seeking a land where the sun shines as it used to, sure that they are simply on the wrong side of the Earth for some reason. Starvation soon has survivors eating everything in sight, chewing on old leather, eating the branches of dead trees, but still the gnawing hunger continues. Death by starvation is also relatively painless, as a stupor sets in. The mind is dulled and languor envelopes the human, who is essentially asleep when death comes.

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:12 PM

lol, should i keep going or no?

JD 09-12-2005 11:14 PM

tinfoil hats anyone?

StickyGreen 09-12-2005 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
tinfoil hats anyone?

lol yea i figure the tinfoil pics will be coming out. i never said i believe all this, i just said it's interesting nonetheless...

xxxice 09-13-2005 01:08 AM

:helpme :uhoh :conehead :Oh crap

potter 09-13-2005 01:31 AM

Could we get the source of this?

ibuydomains 09-13-2005 01:58 AM

http://www.hallucinaut.com/foilhats/sanantonio1.jpg

The Sultan Of Smut 09-13-2005 02:12 AM

It was a good read.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...oil-hat_02.jpg
I still couldn't resist the pic though...

tristan_D 09-13-2005 02:18 AM

http://www.moviepostershop.com/item_img/1-26138.jpg

ADL Colin 09-13-2005 02:21 AM

Slow start. The "Bush administration" doesn't control the lending rate. The Federal reserve does. It is subject to oversight by Congress but not the president.

Pornwolf 09-13-2005 02:36 AM

Fun read.

junction 09-13-2005 04:03 AM

How about a link to the source of the info?

StickyGreen 09-13-2005 01:15 PM

http://www.zetatalk.com


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