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DaddyHalbucks 09-05-2005 05:48 PM

Clinton: Government 'failed' people
 
Clinton: Government 'failed' people

HOUSTON, Texas (CNN) -- Former President Bill Clinton on Monday said the government "failed" the thousands of people who lived in coastal communities devastated by Hurricane Katrina, and said a federal investigation was warranted in due time.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/05/cli...ina/index.html
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This guy Clinton has BALLS.

Clinton allowed 800,000 to die in Rwanda and 200,000 in Bosnia --and he did NOTHING.

Now, he is second guessing the New Orleans rescue efforts? :(

Why 09-05-2005 05:49 PM

people dying in america is a bit differant then people dying in another country. for many many reasons.

David! 09-05-2005 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Clinton: Government 'failed' people

HOUSTON, Texas (CNN) -- Former President Bill Clinton on Monday said the government "failed" the thousands of people who lived in coastal communities devastated by Hurricane Katrina, and said a federal investigation was warranted in due time.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/05/cli...ina/index.html
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This guy Clinton has BALLS.

Clinton allowed 800,000 to die in Rwanda and 200,000 in Bosnia --and he did NOTHING.

Now, he is second guessing the New Orleans rescue efforts? :(

:thumbsup
I jsut watched Hotel Rwanda and was about to make the same comment.
Remember Clinton's Press Secretary arguing with the press about the definition of "genocide" when thousands and thousands of civilians were axed to death :mad: :mad:

xclusive 09-05-2005 05:50 PM

just speaking his mind nothing wrong with that and they did fuck up rescue effort big time

StuartD 09-05-2005 05:51 PM

How can you compare taking care of other country's people with taking care of your own people?

sumphatpimp 09-05-2005 05:52 PM

you figure Bill needs Viagra these days?
he is getting up in years.

StuartD 09-05-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sumphatpimp
you figure Bill needs Viagra these days?
he is getting up in years.

If he was "getting up" in years, he wouldn't need Viagra :winkwink:

dig420 09-05-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Clinton: Government 'failed' people

HOUSTON, Texas (CNN) -- Former President Bill Clinton on Monday said the government "failed" the thousands of people who lived in coastal communities devastated by Hurricane Katrina, and said a federal investigation was warranted in due time.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/05/cli...ina/index.html
+++++++++++++++++++++++

This guy Clinton has BALLS.

Clinton allowed 800,000 to die in Rwanda and 200,000 in Bosnia --and he did NOTHING.

Now, he is second guessing the New Orleans rescue efforts? :(

Looking over your posts, it seems you've said this about umpteen million times trying to get someone, ANYONE, to pay attention to you. No, Clinton did nothing in Rwanda, and this remains a black mark on his Presidency. Just about the only one, unless you're a holier than thou moronic hypocrite who believes getting a blowjob counterbalances balancing the budget, bringing peace to Ireland and keeping a lid on Bin Laden. Obviously you ARE a moron, since you voted for Bush and seem to spend all your time trying to convince us he's a president on par with Washington or Lincoln. Both of whom modern conservatives would have hated.

If George Bush hadn't been in office 9-11 wouldn't have happened, gas wouldn't 5.00/gallon, 10,000 people wouldn't have died in New Orleans, we wouldn't have spent tens of billions of dollars 'bringing democracy' to a degenerate culture, and no American soldiers would have died in Iraq.

DaddyHalbucks 09-05-2005 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why
people dying in america is a bit differant then people dying in another country. for many many reasons.

Really? Human life in America is more valueable?

Why, because the victims in Rwanda were black?

So, are you saying the US and the world should have stood by while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews too?

David! 09-05-2005 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
...keeping a lid on Bin Laden....

You mean, "passed the buck"...

After Shock Media 09-05-2005 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Really? Human life in America is more valueable?

Why, because the victims in Rwanda were black?

So, are you saying the US and the world should have stood by while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews too?

It is different from here to there because the people here support and pay for a government to protect such things.
Rwanda was a sad event, though it is not the only such occurance of mass slaughters that are still going on. That argument is a seperate one all together.

DaddyHalbucks 09-05-2005 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
If George Bush hadn't been in office 9-11 wouldn't have happened, gas wouldn't 5.00/gallon, 10,000 people wouldn't have died in New Orleans, we wouldn't have spent tens of billions of dollars 'bringing democracy' to a degenerate culture, and no American soldiers would have died in Iraq.


Al Qeada began attacks under Clinton.

Do you really believe Iraq citizens are degenerate? That's seems pretty narrow minded.

Gas price is largely determined by supply and demand.

What does GWB have to do with the horrendous decision of many of New Orleans residents to ignore the evacuation orders? That is why there are thousands of deaths there now.

Yes, US military lives were lost in Iraq, but 30 million people are making baby steps towards democracy, and that can only make the world a safer place in the long run.

tony286 09-05-2005 06:01 PM

During Clinton when he wanted to go in he was told by the republican senate no war for monica. Get it right.

broke 09-05-2005 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
During Clinton when he wanted to go in he was told by the republican senate no war for monica. Get it right.

What color is the sky in your world?

broke 09-05-2005 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
It is different from here to there because the people here support and pay for a government to protect such things.


The people effected pay about as much into the government as Rwandans and take more out of it. What was your point again?

WarChild 09-05-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
If George Bush hadn't been in office 9-11 wouldn't have happened, gas wouldn't 5.00/gallon

There's no way you can back that up, it's absurd to claim such.

crockett 09-05-2005 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Really? Human life in America is more valueable?

Why, because the victims in Rwanda were black?

So, are you saying the US and the world should have stood by while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews too?


If that's the case why does Bush stand by while hundreds are being killed in Zimbabwe.. What about the killings in Sudan? What about the death camps in North Korea.. Your boy Bush Jr is standing by letting all these things happen.

Does he not like black people or Asians?

rambler 09-05-2005 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
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...but 30 million people(in Iraq) are making baby steps towards democracy, and that can only make the world a safer place in the long run.

You're kidding, right.

Heywood Jablome 09-05-2005 07:06 PM

Back to the topic at hand
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Clinton: Government 'failed' people

HOUSTON, Texas (CNN) -- Former President Bill Clinton on Monday said the government "failed" the thousands of people who lived in coastal communities devastated by Hurricane Katrina, and said a federal investigation was warranted in due time.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/05/cli...ina/index.html

There definitely should be a federal investigation. But unfortunately, after it is all said and done, the Federal Government will wind up with MORE authority over the states.

venus 09-05-2005 07:26 PM

I cant believe people actually believe Bush on this.
He has went back and forth on his policies on Iraq so many times, first it was WMD, when they were not found it was because of the mass graves and crap, now, he says they are only trying to maintain what the peace untill the Iraqi army can take over and american troops can leave. So what he is saying is we can't defeat the "terrorist" and we will no win this war.

If Bush's talking points were so important they justified invading another country, the US would not have sat by, with 500,000 troops in the region while sadam killed thousands of his own people whom hos father encouraged to rise up. They were not important then so why are the mass graves important now?

my opinion is Sadam was a bad person, something needed to be done about him, but were we really justified in invading? Not hardly, there are bigger bad guys out there then sadam to deal with. Bush lied about his reasons for invading Iraq, if he had real justification he would not have to lie about them.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Yes, US military lives were lost in Iraq, but 30 million people are making baby steps towards democracy, and that can only make the world a safer place in the long run.


venus 09-05-2005 07:28 PM

Oh ya, and under Bush's new policy of pulling out as soon as the Iraqi army can take over, you watch and see, whats going to happen is there will be a coup or the "terrorists" will take down the goverment and Iraq will be worse then it was under sadam.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
and that can only make the world a safer place in the long run.


directfiesta 09-05-2005 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

So, are you saying the US and the world should have stood by while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews too?

They did ...

broke 09-05-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
there are bigger bad guys out there then sadam to deal with.


Name them.

crockett 09-05-2005 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
Oh ya, and under Bush's new policy of pulling out as soon as the Iraqi army can take over, you watch and see, whats going to happen is there will be a coup or the "terrorists" will take down the goverment and Iraq will be worse then it was under sadam.

Yea then then of course that will be the Democrats fault because they fought him on the war so he lost his support.

dig420 09-05-2005 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke
Name them.

The Saudi royal family in general

Kim Jong Il

Mugabe

Khameini

This is from 2 minutes research on google. The world will never be short on ruthless dictators. I don't give a fuck. The thing I don't like is that you conservatives vote in totally unqualified and clueless people like Bush whose only real success in life was being born into the family, and people like Bush do things like introduce the Patriot Act, thus nudging our own govt. that much closer to a tyranny.

The funnest fact about you conservatives is that you shout and shout about govt. having too much power, while you blithely give up all our individual freedoms to the state in the name of security.

Idiots.

WarChild 09-05-2005 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
The Saudi royal family in general

Kim Jong Il

Mugabe

Khameini

This is from 2 minutes research on google. The world will never be short on ruthless dictators. I don't give a fuck. The thing I don't like is that you conservatives vote in totally unqualified and clueless people like Bush whose only real success in life was being born into the family, and people like Bush do things like introduce the Patriot Act, thus nudging our own govt. that much closer to a tyranny.

The funnest fact about you conservatives is that you shout and shout about govt. having too much power, while you blithely give up all our individual freedoms to the state in the name of security.

Idiots.

"You conservatives" make up slightly more than half of the population of the country you live in.

You make it sound like only "you conservatives" can make unqualified and uninformed choices.

broke 09-05-2005 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
The Saudi royal family in general

Kim Jong Il

Mugabe

Khameini

This is from 2 minutes research on google. The world will never be short on ruthless dictators. I don't give a fuck. The thing I don't like is that you conservatives vote in totally unqualified and clueless people like Bush whose only real success in life was being born into the family, and people like Bush do things like introduce the Patriot Act, thus nudging our own govt. that much closer to a tyranny.

The funnest fact about you conservatives is that you shout and shout about govt. having too much power, while you blithely give up all our individual freedoms to the state in the name of security.

Idiots.

I do like that you have to take 2 minutes on google to find the Saudi family, the leader of NK, the president of Zimbabwe, and the Ayatollah (it's spelled Khamenei BTW).

Carry on...

broke 09-05-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
The thing I don't like is that you conservatives vote in totally unqualified and clueless people like Bush whose only real success in life was being born into the family, and people like Bush do things like introduce the Patriot Act, thus nudging our own govt. that much closer to a tyranny.

How can one not love the retarded...

Gore, whose only real success in life was being born into the family of racist that voted against the 64 Civil Rights Act, should have been the clear choice.

Holly 09-05-2005 08:34 PM

I love Bill Clinton. He's one of the most gifted orators of our time. When he speaks, it's like magic.

I could listen to him all day.

(the haters can pucker up and KMA) :1orglaugh


And even though I know it's hard to believe- Clinton was never the President of Rwanda or Bosnia.

directfiesta 09-05-2005 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke
I do like that you have to take 2 minutes on google to find the Saudi family, the leader of NK, the president of Zimbabwe, and the Ayatollah (it's spelled Khamenei BTW).

Carry on...

The presence of Duperval and hundreds of other alleged human-rights violators in the United States was spotlighted this week in a 174-page report released by Amnesty International USA and entitled ?United States of America: A Safe Haven for Torturers.? According to the human-rights organization, the U.S. government acknowledges that up to 1,000 suspected torturers and murderers from countries such as Honduras, Ethiopia, Indonesia and Somalia may have fled to American shores to escape justice at home

link

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

spanky part 2 09-05-2005 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly
I love Bill Clinton. He's one of the most gifted orators of our time. When he speaks, it's like magic.

I could listen to him all day.

(the haters can pucker up and KMA) :1orglaugh


And even though I know it's hard to believe- Clinton was never the President of Rwanda or Bosnia.

Man I am with you on that.

Lets throw out term limits and he would win by a landslide.
Conservatives need to come to grips with fact the we have a corrupt administration that is so close to being facist (look it up).

If this is the best we can do for a president, we have been watching too much Jerry Springer.

broke 09-05-2005 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
The presence of Duperval and hundreds of other alleged human-rights violators in the United States was spotlighted this week in a 174-page report released by Amnesty International USA and entitled ?United States of America: A Safe Haven for Torturers.? According to the human-rights organization, the U.S. government acknowledges that up to 1,000 suspected torturers and murderers from countries such as Honduras, Ethiopia, Indonesia and Somalia may have fled to American shores to escape justice at home

link

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Seriously -- it's so cool you can post unrelated comments and links in threads!

:)


Maybe one day you'll tell me how the overturning of Roe v. Wade will effect people in conservative states where 98% of counties don't have a provider. How overturning Roe v. Wade would effect anything for that matter....

VeriSexy 09-05-2005 09:05 PM

I want Clinton back :Oh crap

WarChild 09-05-2005 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky part 2
Conservatives need to come to grips with fact the we have a corrupt administration that is so close to being facist (look it up).

Let's face it, by the time anybody gets to the position of ultimate power, they're so much in debt to special interest groups and others who got them there that there's very little left of the man.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Greg B 09-05-2005 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Really? Human life in America is more valueable?

Why, because the victims in Rwanda were black?

So, are you saying the US and the world should have stood by while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews too?

Here's the historical heartbreakin' dilly yo...

The Nazis were primarily funded BY the US. Corporations. Standard Oil for one. Ironically the guy running Standard Oil was Prescott Bush the grandfather of our present President. Matter of fact because of this the entire Bush family fortune was confiscated in the early 1940s for collusion with the enemy. ( www.tetrahedron.org )

Rwanda was and is a cesspool because NO ONE WILL FUND rescue. Black people in the U.S. don't have enough juice in the legislative branch to fund a rescue in Rwanda. None of the white legislators are going to either. Nor are the corporate sponsors. Plain and simple, white people aren't going to fund a black operation because black people won't or can't lead the charge. There's no oil or diamonds or whatever in Rwanda enough to justify it. Even if the Christians there are the ones getting their asses kicked.

It takes agreement to fund a war and unfortunately the whites of our culture don't see, can't see, or haven't been shown the benefit of expenditures in a country nobody gives a shit about anyway.

If the black people cared that much about Rwanda how come every fucking rap record isn't about how fucked up Rwanda is?

No, every rap record is about ho'in and pimpin' and mack-daddyin'.

Shows you were black america's head is at.

They don't wanna lead the charge to rescue their own people? Fuck em'.

Blacks in America spend damn near a trillion dollars a year and are about as together and focused as a one eyed man in a pussy eating contest.

Blacks in Africa are still fighting the same tribal fights like Europe has for the past 10,000 years.

Add to that the chemical dependent running our government and you have the recipe for the shit we smell.

Ironically, the jews in europe are descendents of the Khazars. The adopted judaism in the 9th century. They're actually the true descendents of the Aryans Hitler so loved. Funny how he ended up almost annihilating the people his demented mind so revered.

detoxed 09-05-2005 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Really? Human life in America is more valueable?

Why, because the victims in Rwanda were black?

So, are you saying the US and the world should have stood by while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews too?

People like you, who put words like that into others mouths, should be shot in the head.

Ninja Scripts 09-05-2005 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
There's no way you can back that up, it's absurd to claim such.

No it's not. We have the best military force in the world. Now go look at what time airplanes were reported being hijacked, and what time military aircraft were given orders to go after them. You don't let a hijacked plane barrel towards New York when there are multiple aircraft that have been compromised. It was obvious what was going on and your Commander In Chief was reading a book instead of giving orders.

coolegg2 09-05-2005 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Clinton allowed 800,000 to die in Rwanda and 200,000 in Bosnia --and he did NOTHING.

Now, he is second guessing the New Orleans rescue efforts?

Is Rwanda that little state near Connecticut? And Bosnia... Bosnia... let me think, is that a suburb of Chicago? Yeah, Clinton should have been impeached for failing his duties as President of the United States on those, for sure.

I guess only Republicans are allowed to criticize the federal response to Hurricane Katrina since Republicans, having control of all of the House, the Senate and the White House, are solely responsible for the federal response to Hurricane Katrina.

WarChild 09-05-2005 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts
No it's not. We have the best military force in the world. Now go look at what time airplanes were reported being hijacked, and what time military aircraft were given orders to go after them. You don't let a hijacked plane barrel towards New York when there are multiple aircraft that have been compromised. It was obvious what was going on and your Commander In Chief was reading a book instead of giving orders.

A) He's not my anything, I am not American.
B) Prior to 9/11 it was not policy to shoot down hijacked civilian air craft, regardless of who was President. Give me a fucking break it was "obvious what was going on". You call Miss Cleo for that info?

Might Clinton have done things differntly? Possibly. Is it probable? No.

sean416 09-06-2005 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
This guy Clinton has BALLS.

Clinton allowed 800,000 to die in Rwanda and 200,000 in Bosnia --and he did NOTHING.

Now, he is second guessing the New Orleans rescue efforts? :(

You're comparing apples and oranges. stfu.

Doctor Dre 09-06-2005 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why
people dying in america is a bit differant then people dying in another country. for many many reasons.

You stole the words out of my mouth

Greg B 09-06-2005 12:15 AM

Y'know the answer to what our government and world affairs are really like is simple.

I worked in news and politics for years. I've heard and seen it all. You would be stunned to know what's said behind closed doors especially at private clubs.

They sound just like GFY. No bullshit. They sound just like GFY.

Behind the doors of the big political groups they call people hahahahahaha and chink etc. and don't give a shit that they do. You either agree with them or you don't get any money.

The black politicians do the same thing. So do the Chinese, Hindu, etc.

When the windows are shut and the curtains pulled, our best of society act like a bunch of chimps on crack.

That's the real deal like it or not.

Don't believe me? Just check with the police who get the wiretaps. Matter of fact just listen to the Nixon tapes. They're worse cussin' than ten days on GFY.
When we had to do FOI Freedom of Information ACT file gathering, there were more cuss words and racial slurs from cops, politicians, actors, heads of state than you can shake a stick at.

They're all full of more shit than a constipated elephant believe you me.

Kard63 09-06-2005 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
...Rwanda ... Bosnia ...

Hmmm.... does that sound like USA to you?

High Plains Drifter 09-06-2005 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke
Seriously -- it's so cool you can post unrelated comments and links in threads!

:)


Maybe one day you'll tell me how the overturning of Roe v. Wade will effect people in conservative states where 98% of counties don't have a provider. How overturning Roe v. Wade would effect anything for that matter....


Maybe you can tell me why the conservatives are working so hard to get it overturned if it isn't going effect anything.

Webby 09-06-2005 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambler
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
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...but 30 million people(in Iraq) are making baby steps towards democracy, and that can only make the world a safer place in the long run.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambler
You're kidding, right.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Lev 09-06-2005 01:54 AM

Clinton is da man

xxxjay 09-06-2005 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

This guy Clinton has BALLS.

Clinton allowed 800,000 to die in Rwanda and 200,000 in Bosnia --and he did NOTHING.

Now, he is second guessing the New Orleans rescue efforts? :(

Who gives a fuck? -- The people in Rwanda and Bosnia were not Americans...so, it's not really our problem.

If that hurricaine was headed at Santa Monica -- the response would be a lot different.

This is Bush's (no pun indended) Waterloo.
- Bill Maher

xxxjay 09-06-2005 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
So, are you saying the US and the world should have stood by while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews too?

We did stand back "while the Nazis slaughtered the Jews" -- the U.S. entered WWII as a result of Japan's strike a Pearl Harbor.

nico-t 09-06-2005 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
Looking over your posts, it seems you've said this about umpteen million times trying to get someone, ANYONE, to pay attention to you. No, Clinton did nothing in Rwanda, and this remains a black mark on his Presidency. Just about the only one, unless you're a holier than thou moronic hypocrite who believes getting a blowjob counterbalances balancing the budget, bringing peace to Ireland and keeping a lid on Bin Laden. Obviously you ARE a moron, since you voted for Bush and seem to spend all your time trying to convince us he's a president on par with Washington or Lincoln. Both of whom modern conservatives would have hated.

If George Bush hadn't been in office 9-11 wouldn't have happened, gas wouldn't 5.00/gallon, 10,000 people wouldn't have died in New Orleans, we wouldn't have spent tens of billions of dollars 'bringing democracy' to a degenerate culture, and no American soldiers would have died in Iraq.

well said

though i dont think you can convince bush supporters, theyre all blind sheep

benc 09-06-2005 07:40 AM

The blame needs to go to the mayor and the governor. Other then those local govs failures with the short term provisions, what are peoples beefs, especially with the fed gov.


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